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Old 08-08-2017, 08:51 PM   #51
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If OP is telling the truth this will be my last subaru. But i feel like some information is missing.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:02 PM   #52
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Driving stick and racing stick are 2 different things. Unfortunately, you do not know how to race. I refuse to give alternate ideas as to how this could have happened. You fueled your own fire and you want us to help you put out the blaze with dozens of assumptions so SOA will cover you. If a Trans shop says you abused the car too, lay in your grave and man the **** up. In the rare instance something else did cause this problem, I would think you would have felt or heard something long before 8k miles.
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:01 AM   #53
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If OP's story is true, get it fixed on your own dime, hire a lawyer (or don't), take SOA to small-claims court, and see if a judge (or JP) agrees with you. Based upon the pictures you've put here, you're not likely to succeed, but ya never know. Perhaps SOA will settle with you.
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Old 08-09-2017, 01:54 PM   #54
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Driving stick and racing stick are 2 different things. Unfortunately, you do not know how to race. I refuse to give alternate ideas as to how this could have happened. You fueled your own fire and you want us to help you put out the blaze with dozens of assumptions so SOA will cover you. If a Trans shop says you abused the car too, lay in your grave and man the **** up. In the rare instance something else did cause this problem, I would think you would have felt or heard something long before 8k miles.


I definitely understand where you're coming from. I'm sorry you get so heated over the topic but I do not race the car around. It was driving just fine and nothing really seemed to be wrong with the car. I was driving on the freeway doing 70 and when I got off of the freeway and went to accelerate at the light the car felt like I was in 3rd or 4th gear but I was only in 1st. I am no professional driver and I do not drive like I am, but I do know how to confidently and comfortably drive a stick shift. This is not my first manual car and I own a motorcycle too. I'm asking for help because I need it not because I am looking for free hand outs. If I was responsible for the problem I would own up to it like a man an pay for my mistakes.
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:06 PM   #55
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Your best bet will be as said, get it put back by the dealer, tow it to a reputable Trans shop get their opinion on the damage and what caused it.
If it was caused by you, then as you said you will pay for it, if it was a trans fault then get them to write it up and send to SOA to cover it.
It could be just that the dealer is not sure what caused it so straight away blames the owner.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:21 AM   #56
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OP, Is this your first WRX? Could not help but notice you giving advice and details on loading a map via Cobb AP on another thread. So here is what I would say, and I mean all the best:

If you want to beat on the car, don't use an off the shelf tune and don't expect stock parts to last or be replaced because you're "under warranty". If you read it, they can deny you for a multitude of reasons, it is at their discretion. Take it to a reputable tuner and discuss your goals with the car. They would likely recommend a super heavy clutch and some other drive-train components if launching is your poison.

Nonetheless, like the other guys said - parts don't lie, Subaru see's people bring in cars all the time that have been beaten up (a good friend of mine used to be a Subaru service writer) and he saw at least a couple of these cases per month.

Your best bet at this juncture is to ask for Subaru to do a goodwill warranty claim, since you are outside of the scope of the warranty "excessive abuse". Otherwise, live and learn man.

I hope this is somewhat helpful, I'm not here to accuse you of anything or to judge your choices. Enjoy the car, hopefully you can find a resolution soon.
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Old 09-06-2017, 06:01 AM   #57
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Thank you all for your help. Warranty remains denied and now doing an STi trans swap into my car. ACT HDSS Clutch and Flywheel Streetlite.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:57 AM   #58
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Pictures prove it failed due to abuse...that is not a defect.

Who abused it is irrelevant.
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Old 09-09-2017, 10:05 AM   #59
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Pictures prove it failed due to abuse...that is not a defect.

Who abused it is irrelevant.
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:50 PM   #60
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How exactly would launching cause this?

I launch my car 30 or 40 times a day with double the factory output, and just an updated clutch on a 6spd.

On a 5 speed it only broke after a long while of the same, but only stripped 3rd gear like the usual failures....

So even if he had launched it, surely the clutch would slip before he started to strip teeth off the diff?
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:54 PM   #61
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How exactly would launching cause this?

I launch my car 30 or 40 times a day with double the factory output, and just an updated clutch on a 6spd.

On a 5 speed it only broke after a long while of the same, but only stripped 3rd gear like the usual failures....

So even if he had launched it, surely the clutch would slip before he started to strip teeth off the diff?
This is what I've been wondering. On top of that, the front pinion (usually stronger than the ring gear) didn't "break" any teeth. I don't see any broken teeth chunks in the pictures at least. Only metal dust combined with the oil to make a metal paste.

If someone else has an example of this from a track car or something I'd love to see it.
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Old 09-10-2017, 01:01 AM   #62
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This is what I've been wondering. On top of that, the front pinion (usually stronger than the ring gear) didn't "break" any teeth. I don't see any broken teeth chunks in the pictures at least. Only metal dust combined with the oil to make a metal paste.

If someone else has an example of this from a track car or something I'd love to see it.
i read about someone that had a car that ate clutches bad and they looked abused and it ended up being the bellhousing wasnt machined square and it put a side load on the clutch, the dealer actually figured that out. i do agree its totally possible that the ring and pinion werent set correctly or the pinion missed its heat treating. but both extremely rare issues on the same car seems nearly impossible. the clutch rides on the input/main shaft with zero connection to the ring and pinion aside from the gearset that looks perfectly fine. im no expert, but i dont see how the 2 issues could possibly be related aside from the whole trans case being warped.

maybe a dealer tech can chime in and say if they have ever seen either issue.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:05 AM   #63
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I dumped the heck out of this clutch before i learned to granny it correctly its probably didnt help it was a kevlar spec stg2 for the 05 wrx. I also had stg1 south bench in the sti i was told it was really normal the way i drive it was getting pretty worm out with 11,000 miles on it it looked nothing like the photo below.

Spec stg 2 kevlar 8000 mile as the first manual i drove it didnt slip for some reason i noticed till the last 1000 miles or so.
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