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Old 09-01-2020, 12:25 PM   #176
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It could be my age, but that 300ZX TT is just an awesome car to me. Sure it was kind of a pig for its time and wasn't as nice/fast as the Supra, but it's just so early 90's cool.

I'm bummed I was a broke teen when all these cool cars were available. Now I'm a responsible adult and they've either been neutered or updated to be so much $$$.
In 2004 I was 16 and there was a beautiful blue one in my town that I was obsessed with. I'm sure by today's standards it was probably pretty "Fast and Furious" but back then I loved it. One of my favorite cars.

I thought about buying one a few years back, but after my experience with maintaining an older WRX the thought of maintaining a twin turbo 6 cylinder from the 90s scares the **** out of me
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Old 09-01-2020, 12:57 PM   #178
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Old 09-01-2020, 01:05 PM   #179
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Yeah I wanted a 2nd gen GSX back in the day, then I started reading up on DSM's and steered clear of them.

The 3000GT VR4 & (2nd gen) Eclipse GSX were attractive cars, so if buying something off of looks, they checked boxes for people. That mid-late 90's Japanese design language brought about several attractive cars, RX7, Eclipse, NB Miata, 300ZX, Supra - all nice to look at, and provided a stark contrast to the more boxy early 90's domestic stuff. When the Domestics tried to smooth things out we got the SN95 mustang & 4th gen camaro & firebird, which weren't attractive in comparison, the Firebird is probably my favorite of those three.
I REALLY wanted a last gen RX7 with the R1 package, but holy **** those turbo rotary engines make the EJ look like a reliability icon. A last gen RX7 with a LS1 engine swap would be a formidable and desirable car even in 2020.
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Old 09-01-2020, 01:07 PM   #180
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Evo remains the only mitsu product I've ever been interested in. The X gsr has been spotless as far as reliability, wear, maintenance, etc. I'll keep it till the wheels fall off or battery tech comes along far enough that I can switch and not have to change my routine at all.

Otherwise, Nissan is in the same boat as mitsu right now. Why buy an inferior product at the same price as honda or toyota? Only thing they offer worth a damn is the GTR, and even that is getting lack luster.
Those Evos were cool. I'm glad to hear that the dash doesn't disintegrate for no reason on every Mitsubishi car.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:37 PM   #181
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Yeah, all colors boring.. I'm not feeling anything looking at those pictures.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:46 PM   #182
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I've got a feeling they'll use some design language from their IDx Nismo concept...like bulbous but also sharp body panel lines.
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:46 PM   #183
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Those Evos were cool. I'm glad to hear that the dash doesn't disintegrate for no reason on every Mitsubishi car.
I've had my IX now for 13+ years and it's been really reliable as a daily driver. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it, even though I'll be 37 next month.
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Old 09-02-2020, 07:13 AM   #184
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The Nissan Z is one of the most iconic sports car families of all time, with iconic cars like the 280Z, 300ZX, and 350Z under its name. But today's 370Z is starting to wither on the vine. It's still quick and exciting to drive, but old and spartan inside. Luckily, rumor has it that Nissan is working on a replacement for the 370Z. Here's what we've heard so far.

It's Going to Debut on September 15, and Might Be Called the Z Proto


Nissan dropped a video (above) on September 1 teasing the upcoming Z, announcing its reveal date of September 15, and branding it the "Z Proto." It's unclear at this time whether this is the car's production name, or we're going to be shown a prototype, with the full production car unveiled at a later time with a different title.

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Nissan dropped a short teaser video of the new Z in late May 2020, giving us our best look yet at the car's new design. The retro body lines jibe with a report from Autoblog citing dealer sources, suggesting it'll use design cues from past Z cars. The front end, which we can't really see in the video, supposedly has a square mouth with round headlights, much like the 240Z.

It Should Have a 3.0-liter, Twin-turbo V-6 That Makes Around 400 HP

While no details of the new car have been confirmed by Nissan, there's a lot of evidence that suggests a 400-hp twin-turbo V-6 is coming to the Nissan Z. Dealers cited by Autoblog report that this is the engine for the new Z, which Nissan already hinted to with its Project Clubsport 23 concept back in 2018.

That concept had the 400-hp V-6 out of an Infiniti Q50 and Q60 Red Sport 400, lending even more credibility to this rumor. After all, Nissan already has this engine developed and ready for production.

We Expect It to Share Its Platform With the Infiniti Q60

Especially now, it's hard to justify an all-new rear-wheel-drive platform. That's why we believe the report from Car and Driver that the upcoming Z will share its underpinnings with the Infiniti Q60. The last two Z cars have shared significant components with Infiniti's entry-level coupe, so it'd be surprising if this one didn't use the Q60's architecture. Plus, we already know the engine and platform fit together well.

The Official Name Is Still Up in the Air

One thing we don't know is what it'll be called. Normally we assume that a new generation of a car will retain its current name, but Nissan's Z cars usually change names every generation. Historically they've been based on displacement; the 300ZX had a 3.0-liter engine, while the 350Z had a 3.5-liter engine and so on.

Problem is, if the 3.0-liter turbo engine does end up powering the next Z, we find it hard to believe that Nissan would bring back the 300Z name. Generally, numbers in the automotive world perpetually go up, a quirk of marketing where you never want to sell something that seems "lower" than last year's model. That's why we're expecting it to be called the 400Z, as Autocar reported.

That being said, the car's latest teaser mentions the name "Z Proto," though it's unclear whether that title represents the production car or simply a prototype.

It Should Debut Sometime in Late 2020 or Early 2021

According to CarScoops, the debut was slated for late 2020. But with so many schedules thrown off by the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, that date could be pushed back. Car and Driver, for its part, has always expected the 400Z to bow in 2021. Pricing and release information have yet to come out, but we'll continue to update this post as we get more details about the next Z.

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Old 09-02-2020, 12:31 PM   #186
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I've had my IX now for 13+ years and it's been really reliable as a daily driver. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it, even though I'll be 37 next month.

I really wish there had been an aftermarket 6spd available for the X. I was so close to buying the FE, and even though I hated the seats, I do regret not buying after all that has happened since. The EVO X motor was relatively bulletproof. I just couldn't get over the lack of 6spd, and no way I'd buy the automatic. Very regrats!
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:22 PM   #187
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I really wish there had been an aftermarket 6spd available for the X. I was so close to buying the FE, and even though I hated the seats, I do regret not buying after all that has happened since. The EVO X motor was relatively bulletproof. I just couldn't get over the lack of 6spd, and no way I'd buy the automatic. Very regrats!
The 5spd was better
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The 5spd was better

Than the automatic? Agreed. But I wanted a 6spd manual, even if I had to pay aftermarket. Didn't exist. Prices on the 2015's right now are more than I could have bought a new one for.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:29 PM   #189
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I really wish there had been an aftermarket 6spd available for the X. I was so close to buying the FE, and even though I hated the seats, I do regret not buying after all that has happened since. The EVO X motor was relatively bulletproof. I just couldn't get over the lack of 6spd, and no way I'd buy the automatic. Very regrats!
I understand that people want what they want, but never quite understood why some people who wanted a manual weren't content with the five-speed in the GSR and FE and insisted on only a six-speed.

The Evo X motor did end up being pretty sturdy. When it first came out, there were some concerns about its upper limits since Mitsubishi went from an iron block in the 4G63 to the aluminum block in the 4B11, but it looks like over the years, it's been able to handle more than what people thought, and might only start being a "weak" point once you get to the really high numbers. But I still post on EvoM, and while I never watched the X forums that closely (since I have a IX), I can't remember ever seeing a thread about a blown motor. I'm sure it's happened, but it was probably infrequent.

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Than the automatic? Agreed. But I wanted a 6spd manual, even if I had to pay aftermarket. Didn't exist. Prices on the 2015's right now are more than I could have bought a new one for.
I believe Ultimateone was comparing it to the six-speed manual that Mitsubishi had that saw duty in the VIII MR and IX MR. It was lighter (good), more durable (good), less expensive (good) and even got better gas mileage (good). I remember threads about the fourth gear on the six-speed manual being a weak point, and when they'd go out (typically on applications that saw a lot of track duty and with moderate upgrades), it wasn't uncommon for it to be replaced with the five-speed.

One thing that I really didn't like about the FE (and basically all 2015s) was that the car no longer met certain safety regulations, and with the car being at the end of its production run, it didn't make sense for Mitsubishi to fix it, so they yanked out the Recaros and put in the standard Lancer seats that were compliant with the updated requirements.

I don't know where you live, but if you are anywhere close to Canada, see what their market is like -- I have no idea about it, but they did have a "better" FE since it still had the Recaros and had the BBS wheels that were on the MR but in the Diamond Black color that the FE used (though the standard Enkeis are still really good too, so no complaints about the wheels, but at least the BBSs are lighter). So if the market is reasonable and it's not incredibly difficult to get one legally across the border (since I don't know if the DOT or DMV or whoever is in charge would know to check the seats), it's an option.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:11 PM   #190
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Correct, former owner of an 8 and 10, basically have had every damn JDM car minus an RX7 at this point.
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:00 AM   #191
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God, I hope those images above are just renderings and not actual spy shots.
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Old 09-05-2020, 03:15 PM   #192
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Nissan dropped a video (above) on September 1 teasing the upcoming Z, announcing its reveal date of September 15, and branding it the "Z Proto." It's unclear at this time whether this is the car's production name, or we're going to be shown a prototype, with the full production car unveiled at a later time with a different title.
Yeah, I don't think that's particularly unclear. The R35 also had a GT-R Proto model, and it was definitively a far pre-release prototype.
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:25 AM   #193
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God, I hope those images above are just renderings and not actual spy shots.
Agreed.. they look like cars that will go straight to the car rental place.. that no one will rent.
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Old 09-07-2020, 06:44 PM   #194
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God, I hope those images above are just renderings and not actual spy shots.
I believe these renders are extremely close to the finished design. Those headlights are 100% the final design as is the shape.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:40 PM   #195
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I am super unexcited.
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Old 09-10-2020, 11:18 AM   #197
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.. boring..
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Old 09-10-2020, 12:14 PM   #198
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It sounds like it will have severe rev hang.
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Old 09-10-2020, 12:29 PM   #199
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It sounds like it will have severe rev hang.
So many stock manual cars do now. It really sucks.
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Old 09-10-2020, 01:59 PM   #200
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So many stock manual cars do now. It really sucks.
Never really got why people care about rev-hang that much. Isn't it actually better for synchros when high speed, high-rev shifting?

If it's annoying for DD... well who cares you're already driving like a grandma anyways, what does it matter if you delay your shift another .5 seconds.

On point: Yes, boring.
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