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Old 11-18-2021, 09:03 PM   #176
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The current Corolla hatch looks excellent for a hatch base starting point. Wheels and some body treatment it will look excellent.

Looks are only looks however. What matters is if we get the same powerplant of the GR Yaris, same drivetrain AND the front and rear Torsen Diffs. They get it right, a lot of us are going to buy them. A F ton of 5 door WRX and STI folks, Focus RS folks, Golf R folks, will buy. The demand is there. It will be less expensive than the new Golf R.
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Old 11-19-2021, 01:44 PM   #177
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I just went to France for three weeks and I rented an Opel Astra hatch with manual and an I3 turbo motor making ballpark 150hp. Fun as hell! Sure it wasn't blazing fast, but damn was it fun and the front end felt very pointy and responsive. I absolutely LOVE the 3cyl it sounds amazing and it revs very smoothly. Much better than an i4 IMO. So I don't even think this car needs more power. zIf they get the balance and diffs sorted correctly.

Sure I am with you guys that we NEED and DESERVE a Yaris GR here in the states. I would buy one in a god damn heartbeat. But this motor has potential. Those Australian tuners already got a almost completely stock Yaris to 475hp at the hubs with nothing but a tune, some fuel pumps, and some heavier lifter springs to keep the valves in line.

I for one will watch this with great interest.

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Old 11-20-2021, 10:24 PM   #178
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The current Corolla hatch looks excellent for a hatch base starting point. Wheels and some body treatment it will look excellent.

Looks are only looks however. What matters is if we get the same powerplant of the GR Yaris, same drivetrain AND the front and rear Torsen Diffs. They get it right, a lot of us are going to buy them. A F ton of 5 door WRX and STI folks, Focus RS folks, Golf R folks, will buy. The demand is there. It will be less expensive than the new Golf R.

"Sorry (not sorry) North America, you'll get the badges and trim pieces and maybe the I3, oh, and FWD-only. The good news - you will get a GR 4 CH-R instead (with watered-down, heavily FWD-biased AWD system)." - some Toyota USA exec a few months from now after doing further research into Americans' car-buying trends.
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:49 AM   #179
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:21 AM   #180
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^damn, I think that guy had like sub 10k subscribers about a year ago...at 138k now. He's not one of those driving-centric reviewers, but more about dissecting rumors/news which is actually nice.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:55 AM   #181
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Yeah that's why I follow him. He's like being on the forums, but without the drama. I like his Excel sheets that keep track of the engine specs and such too.
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:02 AM   #182
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Enhance. ENHANCE

That's pretty darn lol, that Toyota would even do that, or that someone noticed. This is what we've come to.
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:10 AM   #183
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Ohh man, I am trying not to get my hopes up... Corolla 4 door hatch with GR drivetrain would be fantastic. I foresee cocky Toyota dealer markups already.
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:14 AM   #184
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I'm willing to do a cross-country road trip to get the right one at the right price. Just gonna shop around until I find someone who doesn't try to rape me on pricing. And obviously I'd share any info of a good deal on here too.
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I'm willing to do a cross-country road trip to get the right one at the right price. Just gonna shop around until I find someone who doesn't try to rape me on pricing. And obviously I'd share any info of a good deal on here too.
I was going to say "just ship it" but a cross country trip would be a good way to experience/get to know the car; I have two kids so disappearing for a week to drive a car cross country would be a tough thing to organize.

I'm looking forward to the GR Corolla reveal. My IS is a nice place to be, and I'm prepared to live with it for a long time, but I really miss rowing my own gears; I've been in it for two years and I have not adjusted to/accepted that an Auto is the right trans for me. I also miss lighter cars & having a hatch, I do not like the sedan body, maybe we'll trade in my wife's Corolla Hatch for the GR Corolla and fight for the keys every day; we got a great deal on her car when we bought it back in 2017, it's currently worth more than we paid for it, but that's partly Covid times & chip shortages driving the pricing in the market. Maybe we keep the IS for long trips or something. She doesn't really love her car either, she'd honestly prefer her old Yaris in all of it's tin-can glory, and I understand why.

Here's to hoping.
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Old 11-23-2021, 12:03 PM   #186
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Like all other previous information, no mention of the circuit pack, IE Torsen front and rear LSD's. No diffs, will ruin it.

Watch the video on post #169 that I posted. Then convert the power figures to HP and foot pounds from NM. 475 wheel, and 370 ft lbs, so much more conservative, 400 wheel HP, and 350 ft lbs.

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I was gonna say pfff yeah of course it will get diffs, look around, everything cool has em these days but I didn't realize how the GR Yaris was actually spec'd out. Seems likely the base won't have them though I think an option is plausible.

If I was serious about tracking the car I'd want plated LSD that I could play with like Cusco RS. Just looked at the price for their GR Yaris front diff more than I'd want to pay for both.
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Old 11-23-2021, 01:58 PM   #188
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I was gonna say pfff yeah of course it will get diffs, look around, everything cool has em these days but I didn't realize how the GR Yaris was actually spec'd out. Seems likely the base won't have them though I think an option is plausible.

If I was serious about tracking the car I'd want plated LSD that I could play with like Cusco RS. Just looked at the price for their GR Yaris front diff more than I'd want to pay for both.

You need to look at the circuit pack option on the GR Yaris in Europe. You can then figure out the conversion price to USD. It's not bad at all.
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Hopefully Toyota puts that attention to detail into the GR Corolla..... Hopefully it's not AT only if we are to look at their whole picture they posted.
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You need to look at the circuit pack option on the GR Yaris in Europe. You can then figure out the conversion price to USD. It's not bad at all.
I was going to comment on that too actually - the thing is priced like a GTI in UK! I had in my mind that it was more like $50k for some reason. Was that the JDM spec car? With a bunch of carbon fiber and stuff?

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Hopefully Toyota puts that attention to detail into the GR Corolla..... Hopefully it's not AT only if we are to look at their whole picture they posted.
I'd put money on it being MT only. They probably would have used a pic with a manual stick if they had one handy
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Like all other previous information, no mention of the circuit pack, IE Torsen front and rear LSD's. No diffs, will ruin it.
No locking diffs will be dissappointing, but it's still a full time AWD system, so it won't suck. Hopefully it also gets the handbrake which disconnects the rear drive when you pull it.
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I'd put money on it being MT only. They probably would have used a pic with a manual stick if they had one handy
Corolla MT doesn't have a handbrake I think, so that wouldn't look right either.
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Corolla MT doesn't have a handbrake I think, so that wouldn't look right either.
Center console from the GR Yaris and a cable handbrake isn't a difficult move at the factory.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:15 PM   #195
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Hopefully Toyota puts that attention to detail into the GR Corolla..... Hopefully it's not AT only if we are to look at their whole picture they posted.

That was just a stock photo of the current HB that they chopped with the Easter eggs. It wouldn’t be difficult to change out the plastic where a handbrake would go, but carrying over the electronic e-brake is one of those things I could see being done to keep cost in check.
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Toyota GR Corolla Teaser Reveals More Than You Think

The wait is nearly over.

We've been waiting long enough. Enough with the renderings. Just a little more patience is required. The Toyota GR Corolla hot hatchback will be making its official debut very soon, evidenced by this just-released teaser via the automaker's Instagram account. Don't dismiss it as just a meaningless interior shot because it contains a few cool Easter eggs.



Look closely to the right of the speedometer on the gauge cluster and you'll see G:16, a reference to the G16E-GTS turbocharged three-cylinder engine currently found in the (very sadly) overseas-only GR Yaris where it produces an impressive 268 horsepower and 266 lb-ft of torque (in Europe). It's also paired with a six-speed manual transmission. However, this teaser clearly has an automatic.

Though it's very small, there's also a camouflaged GR Corolla in the background at the top right and a GR Four in the nav system, meaning the vehicle will come equipped with an all-wheel drive system with a Torsen limited-slip differential front and rear. Also expect an electronically controlled center differential.
Toyota hasn't provided a precise reveal date but it should be coming relatively soon. Quite frankly, we were happily surprised to even see this teaser appear just before the long Thanksgiving weekend gets underway. While American automakers, specifically Ford, have abandoned hot hatches, their Asian rivals continue to embrace them.


Along with the GR Corolla, an all-new Honda Civic Type R is just around the corner and, currently on sale, is the Hyundai Veloster N. And then there's the one that started it all: the Volkswagen GTI and its more hardcore sibling, the AWD Golf R. Based on these competitors, chances are the Corolla GR, likely a 2023 model, won't cost anything less than $35,000. We wouldn't be surprised to see high demand that'll tempt dealers to add hefty markups.

This is probably the beginning of the Corolla GR's teaser campaign so expect more images - hopefully with hidden details - to come in the weeks ahead.
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MSRP close to 40k dollars

Not many made for USA

Add above with dealer markup, chip shortage etc. 60 to 70 thousand dollars will be thrown at dealers from rich buyers who don't care. They just want it to post themselves on YouTube.

The overall package will not be anything like the Yaris Gr we really want. But Toyota will succeed in their initial business plan. Make money, get publicity and make commercials showing Toyota is about performance. But most importantly the letters GR. Badge Engineering for profit. GR will be Toyota's M badge. GR line, GR suspension, Bla Bla Bla.

Of course for America you'll get a nice CVT. With Paddles of course. Hopefully it will have a take off gear. (which actually works real well. Makes the CVT unit real reliable too).

Hopefully I'm wrong.
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MSRP close to 40k dollars

Not many made for USA

Add above with dealer markup, chip shortage etc. 60 to 70 thousand dollars will be thrown at dealers from rich buyers who don't care. They just want it to post themselves on YouTube.

The overall package will not be anything like the Yaris Gr we really want. But Toyota will succeed in their initial business plan. Make money, get publicity and make commercials showing Toyota is about performance. But most importantly the letters GR. Badge Engineering for profit. GR will be Toyota's M badge. GR line, GR suspension, Bla Bla Bla.

Of course for America you'll get a nice CVT. With Paddles of course. Hopefully it will have a take off gear. (which actually works real well. Makes the CVT unit real reliable too).

Hopefully I'm wrong.

You might be facetious, but Toyota doesn’t have a CVT that will handle the torque other than their hybrid transaxles. The 2.0L Corolla/UX are the highest output CVTs that Toyota makes… at 150lb-ft of torque. The 2.5L cars at 185lb-ft all have 8AT.

I do expect that the MSRP will be $35k-40k, though. The 2022 GTI now starts at $30k and the next trims up are $34k and $38k and that’s for 240hp and FWD.
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CVT talk in hot hatch thread.
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MSRP close to 40k dollars

Not many made for USA

Add above with dealer markup, chip shortage etc. 60 to 70 thousand dollars will be thrown at dealers from rich buyers who don't care. They just want it to post themselves on YouTube.

The overall package will not be anything like the Yaris Gr we really want. But Toyota will succeed in their initial business plan. Make money, get publicity and make commercials showing Toyota is about performance. But most importantly the letters GR. Badge Engineering for profit. GR will be Toyota's M badge. GR line, GR suspension, Bla Bla Bla.

Of course for America you'll get a nice CVT. With Paddles of course. Hopefully it will have a take off gear. (which actually works real well. Makes the CVT unit real reliable too).

Hopefully I'm wrong.


Seriously incorrect intel.
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