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Old 08-03-2009, 03:49 AM   #1126
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OK so had another go after borrowing my Dad's SLR (Sony A200).. after finally working out all the settings, I think I managed to get some decent shots.

Tried a few different locations, but getting good lighting really is tricky - some places are too dark, and others are actually too bright, causing hot spots and lots of reflections off the paint..














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Old 08-03-2009, 06:22 PM   #1128
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I like this one much better, even though it doesn't have all the cool colors. Your thoughts?

I like this one better too The crop is much better and it's still got that doom and gloom look you love
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:24 PM   #1129
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Definitely not my location of choice, but the composition is pretty much perfect. I can tell you boosted up the shadows a little so it wasn't so dark in the shade, which almost gives the car a plastic look. It worked fine, but just be careful not to overdo it. I probably wouldn't have boosted up the shadows quite that much, but the blacks are still true so I can't complain too much Also, be careful about oversharpening as well.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:27 PM   #1130
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My first shots using a D80. Comments and criticism welcome.
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Little bit of editing...


This is slight HDR editing
The edit is very good as it brings out the colors more and helps the exposure of the car. I wouldn't take a photo there though, especially given how the background sky gets completely blown out.

As for the HDR...not really sure what to say. Nice chair? Seems like the HDR program left some bad pixels in the image though.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:43 PM   #1131
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Thought i'd throw these up to get your thoughts.

Nice empty warehouse for me to work in. Couldve done with some more light really, because i found i had to use the tripod for everything. I wasnt game enough to crank up the ISO on the 400D in fear of ending up with grainy crap. Alas, i made do with windows to the right of shot + clear perspex above letting the sun in.

Anyways, thoughts on composition, colours, tips to avoid the harsh reflections on the windscreens?

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Your compositions are quite good. For the individual wheel shots, I like to get in really low...for example:





But your wheels shots are great! I do think that the sun coming is actually more of a distraction than something good, since the sunlight is conflicting with the indoor lighting. As for the reflections, the polarizer helps, but as SHIFTCanadian said, you're going to have to break out the clone tool and manually take those reflections out. That's always the bad thing about shooting in an indoor location. I ended up cloning out a lot of reflections from this photo for example, but I kept a few in to make sure it didn't look 100% fake (and because some would be too much of a PITA):



I too think that the photos overall are a little bit washed out because of the lighting...that's a pretty easy contrast fix though. Just don't go overboard with it.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:53 PM   #1132
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Hey Armin, I haven't taken pics in a while, but I went out and cleaned the wife's Mini and I've always wanted to take pics at a particular place nearby so i went for it, i couldn't see well enough to focus clear (will be taken care of next time) but other than that I was wondering what your comments could be as far as...

1) Where you would crop
2) How's the positioning, would you move it further from the wall? Closer? different camera position?
3) Any flash advice?
4) Post Processing quick tips? (I know you would probably change quite a bit so I don't expect you to take too much time in explaining)

this picture is completely unedited, just resized, you can even see me walking lol, i know most people don't appreciate fake lighting, but i think this place has a bit of potential, i just want to know what direction i should go when i go there to try and get some real pictures

Thank you very much!


Hmmm...I think my main question for this is are you trying to make this a wide angle shot, or a close-in tight shot? The reason I ask is because the car is so small in the frame...if you're going to do a wide angle shot, you should definitely get right up to the car and go as wide as you possibly can. If you're trying to crop for a tight shot, then you'll probably be wanting to use a completely different lens altogether or zoom in as much as possible. I would move the car farther away from back wall so that you can get some better depth of field out of it. Of course, if you're trying to shoot wide, this doesn't matter quite as much. The grass on the ground can be a little distracting though, so I would probably suggest parking the car over it or just simply removing it.

As far as the flashes go, where were they positioned and at what elevation? It looks like they might be a little too low, since the top half of the car is pretty dark. You can also really tell there's artificial light being used because the white balance is much more blue. If there's already a decent amount of ambient lighting around (which it appears to be, since the rest of the surroundings seem rather well-lit, unless that's because of the flashes), I probably wouldn't even bother using flashes and just stick with a longer shutter speed instead.

It's hard for me to recommend some post processing other than getting rid of your leg shadows and cropping it, but that'll all depend on exactly what kind of shot you're going after here.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #1133
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OK so had another go after borrowing my Dad's SLR (Sony A200).. after finally working out all the settings, I think I managed to get some decent shots.

Tried a few different locations, but getting good lighting really is tricky - some places are too dark, and others are actually too bright, causing hot spots and lots of reflections off the paint..

These images are straight off the camera.. I plan to do a bit of mucking around in photoshop to get them that little bit better, but thought I'd share them on here first..
Sorry man, but it looks like Photobucket doesn't believe your photos exist
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:09 PM   #1134
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Sorry man, but it looks like Photobucket doesn't believe your photos exist
Fixed :-)
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:15 AM   #1135
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Blair,

Your compositions are quite good. For the individual wheel shots, I like to get in really low...for example:


But your wheels shots are great! I do think that the sun coming is actually more of a distraction than something good, since the sunlight is conflicting with the indoor lighting. As for the reflections, the polarizer helps, but as SHIFTCanadian said, you're going to have to break out the clone tool and manually take those reflections out. That's always the bad thing about shooting in an indoor location. I ended up cloning out a lot of reflections from this photo for example, but I kept a few in to make sure it didn't look 100% fake (and because some would be too much of a PITA):


I too think that the photos overall are a little bit washed out because of the lighting...that's a pretty easy contrast fix though. Just don't go overboard with it.
Cheers Armin.

I wouldve liked the freedom to get down and get some more variety in my shots, but unfortunately i was limited to tripod only. I just couldnt get enough light (or possibly just not get my settings right) to be able to shoot freehand

Oh well, ive got some things to work on for next time

Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:15 AM   #1136
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Cheers Armin.

I wouldve liked the freedom to get down and get some more variety in my shots, but unfortunately i was limited to tripod only. I just couldnt get enough light (or possibly just not get my settings right) to be able to shoot freehand

Oh well, ive got some things to work on for next time

Thanks for the feedback!
Just gotta think outside the box...I'm sure you'll agree that I'm not 3 inches tall so i can take the photos I posted
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:32 AM   #1137
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Thanks for the criticism. I took a few more pics... any feedback is appreciated.
Unedited

Unedited

HDR'd in Photomatix


Should I have set the shutter a little bit faster for the garage shots?
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:16 AM   #1138
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Thanks for the criticism. I took a few more pics... any feedback is appreciated.
Unedited

Unedited

HDR'd in Photomatix


Should I have set the shutter a little bit faster for the garage shots?
The first shot is pretty good...if anything, I'd just bump up the saturation a tiny bit to bring more color out of the reflected sunset. The garage shots on the other hand...they just seem like snapshots to me, and definitely not the kind of shot that requires HDR processing. I would honestly skip on the HDR until you get everything else down...this one in particular just looks like all the generic, plastic-looking HDR photos out there that really aren't good in any capacity. All of the shots you've posted up thus far are more like snap shots than actual concentrated, deliberate photography, and it's really not something you can try to get better at. Anyone can take a snapshot, after all...but good, well-composed and exposed photography requires much more effort.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:31 AM   #1139
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Heres my car. Not a scoob but whatevs. Minor editing, nothing too crazy.

A friends DSM edited a little more than the previous shot.
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:47 PM   #1140
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Heres my car. Not a scoob but whatevs. Minor editing, nothing too crazy.

A friends DSM edited a little more than the previous shot.
Nice shots. I think the only thing that really strikes at me is the parking lines...but otherwise the contrast of the red brick with both of your cars is very good. If you can, you might want to put a little more distance between the car and the wall for a little more depth. Also, be careful about not getting too center-weighted, especially in the DSM pic.
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:28 PM   #1141
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Thanks Armin.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:08 PM   #1142
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I've always had difficulties with 'lights-on' pics, but I finally got one that I like. Any further suggestions?



I tried turning the face of the wheel towards the camera, but for some reason it didn't look right for this shot. and its a little center weighted top to bottom..
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:30 PM   #1143
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I've always had difficulties with 'lights-on' pics, but I finally got one that I like. Any further suggestions?

I'm not Armin, but here are my $.02...
I think the lines of the road lead the eye away from the subject.
Next time, I'd try to arrange it so there are leading lines to the car.
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I'm not Armin, but here are my $.02...
I think the lines of the road lead the eye away from the subject.
Next time, I'd try to arrange it so there are leading lines to the car.
Hmm.. I hadn't thought about that, but you're absolutely right. The lines do take your eyes off of the car. Not sure if these are more what you have in mind as far as leading up to the car, but they are certainly less distracting...

...thanks for the helpful criticism. if only i could think of these things when I'm out there shooting



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i have a question for night shooting. i have been using my CP Filter more and more lately, but i attempted to use it over the weekend for a local shoot. i had quite a few photos that came out with a lot of glare from lights. which produced hot spots on surrounding pavement or on the car, etc.

is it better to not use any filters at night? or will you get glare with certain lighting regardless? i could edit all the little spots out, but it would take too much time.
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I'm not Armin, but here are my $.02...
I think the lines of the road lead the eye away from the subject.
Next time, I'd try to arrange it so there are leading lines to the car.
Very much agreed. For this pic, I would've probably placed the car in the top right third of the photo, rather than the top left...that will give it the sensation that the car wants to come toward you, rather than going out of the frame
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Hmm.. I hadn't thought about that, but you're absolutely right. The lines do take your eyes off of the car. Not sure if these are more what you have in mind as far as leading up to the car, but they are certainly less distracting...

...thanks for the helpful criticism. if only i could think of these things when I'm out there shooting



I like both of these, but I think there's just too much space in the foreground for them. I'd probably bring the camera closer to the car, especially in the first one.
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i have a question for night shooting. i have been using my CP Filter more and more lately, but i attempted to use it over the weekend for a local shoot. i had quite a few photos that came out with a lot of glare from lights. which produced hot spots on surrounding pavement or on the car, etc.

is it better to not use any filters at night? or will you get glare with certain lighting regardless? i could edit all the little spots out, but it would take too much time.
Generally, I don't use the CP filter at night since the whole point of using is to remove glare and reflections, typically due to the sun or other bright sources of light. However, since it's pretty dark at night, often times you'll find that you won't have any of these to remove, especially when it comes to the windshield and hood. Like you said though, sometimes you'll get glare with certain lighting regardless, and the only way to deal with it is to either move the car to a different location with less glare or remove the spots out in post processing. I typically opt for moving the car unless the location is just too damn nice, in which case patience in removing all the spots can really pay off
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^^ thanks man. just wanted to clarify... and i do agree, id opt for moving the car. its just easier that way as i have no patience to post process minor details.
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I like both of these, but I think there's just too much space in the foreground for them. I'd probably bring the camera closer to the car, especially in the first one.
gotcha. thanks again!
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