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Old 08-07-2009, 03:42 PM   #1
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Figured I'd note what I am now working with. This paint mix was made for me and I have no idea how close it matches, yet. It is all in fine misting aerosol cans.

Sherwin Williams automotive finishes Java Black Pearl, Subaru code 18L. 0.75 pints total (~3x12oz cans).

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Old 08-07-2009, 03:48 PM   #2
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go to your local body shop supply store and many times they can put a factory color on a rattle can for around $15
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:41 PM   #3
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Hmm not a bad idea... body shop supply store... like maaco or autozone? Any places I can buy a few of em, online or so? Doesn't have to be perfect for now, just close.... Subaru touch up paint is a good match but its only like 3oz or so and I need to paint a hood and trunk.
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:49 PM   #4
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I'm having a good day so here you go. Looks like you have a few to choose from. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:13 PM   #5
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^Thanks, I'll call Sherwin Williams Auto Paint in NE Phila tomm. Nobody has found a pre made/packaged rattle can close to 18L?
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:21 PM   #6
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The colors match great! but you will definitely need clear over top to get the best shine.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:34 AM   #7
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ha maaco is a body shop therefore a bodyshop supply store would be where they get their stuff from, and autozone is bearly a parts supply shop at all with thier lack of parts with out having to order every thing, let alone not having much of a selection of any thing for paint. lol
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:20 PM   #8
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The colors match great! but you will definitely need clear over top to get the best shine.

Thanks! I might try it out! Seems like they mix it to your car's specs then ship. How many rattle cans do you think it would take to do a trunk. 4?
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:18 PM   #9
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I'm having a good day so here you go. Looks like you have a few to choose from. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Noone picking up the phone at 2pm on a sat.... I think SW auto supply is where I need to be. Or maybe I'll try ordering some cans from the above link, though it looks like they all mostly paint match a rattle can for whatever color you have.

Nobody has used a pre-made 18L rattle can?
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:13 AM   #10
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I almost used a full rattle can from automotivetouchup for this Ureshi/Virjose replica window spolier I did. So I'd say buy at least 4 for your trunk. 4 or 5 seems about right.

And if you want to save on primer and/or clear, just go to Lowe's or something of the sort to find rustoleum/krylon/etc.
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:30 PM   #11
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Got in touch with a guy at Sherwin Williams Automotive dept who says he can mix up a single stage mix of 18L easily and cheaply! He says it's about 80% base coat 18L and 20% clear mixture that he can put in a rattle can for about 2 cans for ~$20... not bad! Says about 3 should do the trunk. Pure basecoat he said would be about $40 a can. All 12oz cans.

I'm heading down to check it out, I figure worst case scenario if I need another layer of clear I can use the duplicolor to stay atomically sherwin williams correct!

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Old 08-10-2009, 05:30 PM   #12
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Well wow. BIG ups to Tim @ Sherwin Williams automotive dept by the philly airport. He knew his shiz about body work, and worked with me to get me exactly what I needed.

Here's what I walked with:
3 Cans of 18L mixed up w clear and 2 types of dry flake (gold & green), put into 12oz spray cans - 27.95!!!
1 Can of Sherwin Williams dark grey primer - ~$8
1 Can of Polyester Glazing putty (w 2 free small tubes of reducer/hardener) - ~$28
1 job (5 sheets) of 500 grit sandpaper - 3.50
a few sheets of 800 - free!

So for ~$65 I have a whole kit that should get me through this trunk and have a bunch left over, the dude said he thought under 2 cans for the whole trunk (ext only), So we'll see how it goes!

I think it's all in the prep work, so Gary if you're reading this lets see how your trunk looks java black all rattle!!!! I'll try to post pics as I go, here goes nothing.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:31 PM   #13
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Well wow. BIG ups to Tim @ Sherwin Williams automotive dept by the philly airport. He knew his shiz about body work, and worked with me to get me exactly what I needed.

Here's what I walked with:
3 Cans of 18L mixed up w clear and 2 types of dry flake (gold & green), put into 12oz spray cans - 27.95!!!
1 Can of Sherwin Williams dark grey primer - ~$8
1 Can of Polyester Glazing putty (w 2 free small tubes of reducer/hardener) - ~$28
1 job (5 sheets) of 500 grit sandpaper - 3.50
a few sheets of 800 - free!

So for ~$65 I have a whole kit that should get me through this trunk and have a bunch left over, the dude said he thought under 2 cans for the whole trunk (ext only), So we'll see how it goes!

I think it's all in the prep work, so Gary if you're reading this lets see how your trunk looks java black all rattle!!!! I'll try to post pics as I go, here goes nothing.
Glad to hear, but I would stay away from painting that other guy's black trunk with rattle cans. Black shows absolutely everything, and orange peel is almost impossible to avoid with spray paint. If you don't want to pay full price for a professional, at least get some other spray gun.

A coat of straight-up clear for your trunk wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:56 PM   #14
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Wellp, I appreciate the input but I've come too far to change up budget or application method, time to go gold or go home. 04 jbp is the only year they made this color and I now have all the necessities to do a solid job if I take my time. This is how it will go.

-Hammer out most of imperfections to get closest to normal trunk dimensions.
-Sand 500 grit.
-Fill with glazing putty any non perfect voids.
-Sand 500 grit.
(make sure trunk is clean and smooth)
-Primer, maybe 2 coats.
-Sand 800 grit.
-1st coat of legit single stage 18L paint mixture
-Sand 800 grit.
-2 more coats of 18L spray
-Custom diy mini spoiler
(maybe another protective layer of duplicolor clear if the single stage isn't shiny enough)

I figure the large variable is how well this mixture of 18L matches the oem paint. If it goes well, time to paint sideskirts, virjose, v-limited replica, grille. If those go well, will finish off a full respray of keyed hood/door!
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:10 PM   #15
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Hope all goes well. Going back to that automotivetouchup website, they have some sandpaper that goes up to 1000/1500 (maybe even finer) grit for that final step. It's waterproof too if you want to wetsand. Good price, nothing more than a Lowe's/HD. I'd say that would be a good final investment for all your projects.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:17 PM   #16
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Thanks man, the sandpaper I have is the '3M Wetordry', and that automotive touch up video helps a lot, I don't have a wetsander but maybe I'll use a spray bottle and do it wet/dry. I got 500 grit and he hooked me up with 800 for free. The dude that helped me was VERY knowledgeable and I realized that it is quite easy to paintmatch and he whipped up a recipe right there in about 5 mins off of specific numbers I could share if ppl are interested. Coupled that with some hardener and clearcoat makes a pretty solid 1 stage paint for any application, but then he just bottled it in 3 aerosol cans I watched him do the whole thing. Pretty sweet! Then we put some on the wing and not a bad match!

Wiped it off and I realized really anyone can do this so it was nice to talk to someone and not a website/phonebot. Not to mention he HOOKED it up I got the 3 cans (36oz) of very nice paint for only ~$27 that if applied right should come out pretty close. Hope it inspires ppl to start doing their own body work!

I think it's all in the prepwork.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:19 PM   #17
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:21 AM   #18
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keep updates, im interested to see how this turns out.
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ding ding, this is what i did for my jbp
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:06 AM   #20
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^Nice! What brand, and color mix did you use? Pics of match turnout? Single stage?
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So here is my progress. I think I have hammered (literally) out most of the imperfections and may be ready to prep for filler. The only thing I'm worried about is in the 2nd picture it's kind of hard to tell that the corner closest to the keyhole was also bent back in, and that has two pieces of sheet metal so I don't know how close to the right shape it is, looks pretty close, I'll probably mock up later against my current trunk in a bit.












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Subcribed!

I have a wrx trunk w/spoiler prepped for paint and i'm really curious to see how this turns out.
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^^Thanks me too! The paint looked good before he pumped it into aerosol cans but that is far away, hah. So I went outside to mock up and I realized the arc of the bottom of the trunk was a little off, so I had to rework that a bit as well as the one corner that didn't look as straight as I could get it before filling/sanding.

Coincidence that there is a local spot welder working on the iron gate outside my apt building, and I politely asked him if he had an extra piece of scrap metal about 4"x2" and if it was possible to weld it behind my emblem holes real quick. He said "nah can't weld cars." What a dick, lol. So off to lowes to get a small piece of scrap metal and maybe some JB to plug the two holes from the suby emblem (06/07?) so I can then surface fill so it won't orance peel, spider web, or crack around the holes I'll be filling when slamming(closing) trunks in the future.
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