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Old 12-05-2010, 05:59 PM   #1
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So I recently aquired a new client for detailing who has several cars and his most prized posession is his black 2010 Porsche Turbo Convertible he waited three years to get. Its 510 hp with a twin turbo flat 6 and awd. 0-60 is about 2.9-3.2 seconds I beleive for those curious. Let me start by saying this client is one of the coolest, laid back millionaire types I've ever met and besides paying me wayyy more than I ask he even gives me permission to "have some fun" in his cars just dont get hurt or caught. Since this guy is very cool and treats me very well I like to make sure my work is absolutley perfect and above his expectations. This will be the most expensive and nicest car I have ever had the pleasure of driving and detailing.
My question is what kind of wax would you recommend I use for such a car? Also what other tips or suggestions do any of you experienced guys have for me with this kind of car?

Heres a couple cell phone pics I took of it when I picked up his last car...



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Old 12-05-2010, 06:08 PM   #2
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whatever you do, just be super careful, with it being black. it will show every single imperfection.

also I would personally ask Details domain on here. he seems to be the man to talk to.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:09 PM   #3
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Swisswax actually makes waxes for Porsches specifically. I doubt its any better than some other waxes on the market but i'm sure this guy is probably loaded and wouldn't care to spend the money on it. Personally I would use something like Einszett Glanz Wax. I use it all the time on the cars I do and it does a good job.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:13 PM   #4
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So I recently aquired a new client for detailing who has several cars and his most prized posession is his black 2010 Porsche Turbo Convertible he waited three years to get. Its 510 hp with a twin turbo flat 6 and awd. 0-60 is about 2.9-3.2 seconds I beleive for those curious. Let me start by saying this client is one of the coolest, laid back millionaire types I've ever met and besides paying me wayyy more than I ask he even gives me permission to "have some fun" in his cars just dont get hurt or caught. Since this guy is very cool and treats me very well I like to make sure my work is absolutley perfect and above his expectations. This will be the most expensive and nicest car I have ever had the pleasure of driving and detailing.
My question is what kind of wax would you recommend I use for such a car and I only will use a paste wax by hand. Also what other tips or suggestions do any of you experienced guys have for me with this kind of car?
The wax realy depends on how the car is used. I assume its mostly kept indoors so i would recomend Swissvax Concorso. Its a medium cost wax and its a AWESOME shine. If your going for a lower priced wax you cant go wrong with Lusso ORO wax or Dodo juice supernatural. I have all 3 of these and Swissvax if the ladder for sure.

Other tips. I would make sure to measure all the paint beofre doing any polishing. The last thing you want to do is screw up his clear coat. So if you dont have a meter i would get one.

Also im not sure what polisher your using but make sure your confident with it before using.

Other than that, i have had the best luck and recomend Menzerna Polish. Menzerna super finish is one of my favorite final polishes available.


http://www.detailersdomain.com/swiss...rsocarwax.aspx
http://www.detailersdomain.com/lusso...rnaubawax.aspx
http://www.detailersdomain.com/defel...tdftcombo.aspx
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:13 PM   #5
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this seems to be detailers domains choice of products for black cars. we will see if he chimes in.

Exterior

- Wheels were prepped with Sonax Wheel Cleaner and cleaned up with various brushes
- Tires were spritzed down with Adam's All Purpose Cleaner and washed down
- Wheel wells were cleaned up
- Wash down and rinsed
- Door jambs were cleaned up
- Clayed
- Dried
- Tires dressed
- Masking
- 3 Step Paint correction (Meg's M105, Menzerna Power Finish, Menzerna Super Finish)
- Inspection with Fenix, 3m Sun Gun, Infratech, and natural sunlight
- Last Step - Menzerna Power Lock and Lusso Oro
- Rubber and Plastics Treated
- Exterior windows and mirrors cleaned and sealed
- Exhaust tips cleaned
- Windows were clayed and sealed

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Exterior:
Lusso Auto Bathe
Adam's All Purpose Cleaner
Uber Yellow Wash Sponge
Uber Clay Bar kit with Optimum No Rinse
Einszett Spray Wax
Meg's M105
Menzerna Power Finish
Menzerna Super Finish
Menzerna Power Lock
Lusso Oro

Wheels/Tires
Uber Wheel and Tire Kit

Glass
Adam's Glass Cleaner
Adam's Glass Sealant

Tools:
Infratech 5300
Fenix TK11
Brinkmann
Fenix TK40
Flex 3403
Makita
Metabo
The Uber Foam Pads (5.5inch)
Tons of "Uber" Microfiber Towels
Uber Drying Towels
Brushes
Cam Spray Pressure Wash and Foam Canon Attachment
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:22 PM   #6
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Cool, thanks guys. I appreciate it. Btw I wont be using any kind of polisher on this since the paint doesnt need any correction. Car only has 3k miles on it and garage kept of course.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:44 PM   #7
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I think if you really want this Porsche to standout, it will be in the prep of the paint and not in the wax you choose to potentially purchase for it. Even if the paint is swirl free, you would be surprised at what one of your paint cleaners on a finishing pad or polishing pad would do for it.

Either way I would wash then clay the vehicle, and go over the paint with something to prep the surface before sealing or waxing.

Its not a certain wax alone that will make your detail stand out, while some waxes may have a higher price tag, considering what most sealants and waxes are made of looks are VERY suggestive and VERY subjective - ie: if you pay more it has to look better, right?

Its important that the car is prepped correctly and that it has quality protection on it - not necessarily something that costs a lot of money. It should be super slick as well, because Porsche paint is quite soft, and with it being a black car, as you know, will show any marring so anything to aid in cleaning and releasing dirt and grime is a must. Not to mention sometimes carnauba waxes tend to have a slight attraction for dust, and can sometimes be a little tough to use - the Swissvax(and other oily waxes) waxes because can haze in the sun sometimes and attract dust.


For whatever it is worth to you, just for your thinking - the absolute best wax or sealant I have ever used in my decade plus of restorative detailing, the best combination of slickness, serious durability and looks costs a measly 1$ an ounce. And for reference I have used in comparison various Zymols and Swissvax waxes that cost much too much.

I still use it to this day as it looks absolutely OUTSTANDING on a well prepped surface, the surface prep being the key to any detail. I would quickly put it up against any sealant or wax in the world.

I am not saying all waxes and sealants are the same, they are not but is a Cadillac a dressed up Chevy?

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Old 12-05-2010, 06:52 PM   #8
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Cool, thanks guys. I appreciate it. Btw I wont be using any kind of polisher on this since the paint doesnt need any correction. Car only has 3k miles on it and garage kept of course.
Then Swissvax Concorso and Swissvax Cleaner Fluid. Prewax cleaner is a must if your not going to polish and you want the best results.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/swiss...anerfluid.aspx
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:53 PM   #9
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:58 PM   #10
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Can't wait to see the before and after pics.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:21 PM   #11
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I think if you really want this Porsche to standout, it will be in the prep of the paint and not in the wax you choose to potentially purchase for it. Even if the paint is swirl free, you would be surprised at what one of your paint cleaners on a finishing pad or polishing pad would do for it.

Either way I would wash then clay the vehicle, and go over the paint with something to prep the surface before sealing or waxing.

Its not a certain wax alone that will make your detail stand out, while some waxes may have a higher price tag, considering what most sealants and waxes are made of looks are VERY suggestive and VERY subjective - ie: if you pay more it has to look better, right?

Its important that the car is prepped correctly and that it has quality protection on it - not necessarily something that costs a lot of money. It should be super slick as well, because Porsche paint is quite soft, and with it being a black car, as you know, will show any marring so anything to aid in cleaning and releasing dirt and grime is a must. Not to mention sometimes carnauba waxes tend to have a slight attraction for dust, and can sometimes be a little tough to use - the Swissvax(and other oily waxes) waxes because can haze in the sun sometimes and attract dust.


For whatever it is worth to you, just for your thinking - the absolute best wax or sealant I have ever used in my decade plus of restorative detailing, the best combination of slickness, serious durability and looks costs a measly 1$ an ounce. And for reference I have used in comparison various Zymols and Swissvax waxes that cost much too much.

I still use it to this day as it looks absolutely OUTSTANDING on a well prepped surface, the surface prep being the key to any detail. I would quickly put it up against any sealant or wax in the world.

I am not saying all waxes and sealants are the same, they are not but is a Cadillac a dressed up Chevy?
Thank you I will certainly keep a lot of this in mind. The client specifically wanted the car waxed by hand so I really wanted to keep it that way but I do plan on using a pre-wax paint cleaner/cleanser and wax of the same brand. After a little research it seems like the P21S 100% Carnauba has a very deep wet look(which the client described he wanted) and using the P21S Paintwork Cleansing Lotion before hand really helps the final outcome a lot. For the price it seems like it may be one of the best bang for your buck deals and it has many great reviews.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:49 PM   #12
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Just some general tips.

1. Don't be intimidated by the price of the car.
2. Take your time.
3. Treat it as though it is your own child.
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I would say prep it first I'm going to guess the dealer did something in the process of glaze etc and once you wash it you will see some imperfections.

check the car out in direct sunlight or halogens.

this is a black GTR with 200 miles on it.


this is a brand new 911 CS - Basalt Black (I believe it had 450 miles on it)
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^^ Uhh..... looks like ****!
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The car will need prep the dealers always seem to F&^* them up.
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I would say prep it first I'm going to guess the dealer did something in the process of glaze etc and once you wash it you will see some imperfections.

check the car out in direct sunlight or halogens.

this is a black GTR with 200 miles on it.


this is a brand new 911 CS - Basalt Black (I believe it had 450 miles on it)
So what would you recommend as a safe polish for light swirls/imperfections on a black car like this if there is any?
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this is a brand new 911 CS - Basalt Black (I believe it had 450 miles on it)
This is what my car looks like in the sun after a wash


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So what would you recommend as a safe polish for light swirls/imperfections on a black car like this if there is any?
under the right hands its all safe.
it depends really on the car, I haven't seen it so I can't really recommend anything.

it its new it will probably not need any compounding.

so you may need to use something menzerna super intensive polish, menzerna power finish, and/or menzerna super finish.

do you have a paint meter so you can tell how much you are taking off?
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