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Old 12-07-2003, 11:02 PM   #1
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Default Pulled the motor and tranny out of the car saturday. Pictures and Info

On Saturday we pulled my engine and tranny out of the car. I decided to pull the engine out also so I can inspect it and add a few goodies on it. I also suspect that my cam tensioner is bad because of this knocking on my engine. I will be upgrading my fuel system a bit, making a new downpipe, modifying my turbo manifold, and possible adding cams.

Once we got the motor out we pulled the tranny out through the front. We separated the tranny from the engine and pulled parts out separately. We took the tranny out and inspected the center diff. It checks out to be in very good shape. Next we split the case down the center and found out what happened to the tranny and why it would not shift.

The second gear teeth are broken off on both shafts and all of the teeth were stuck behind the shaft were the shift fork slides. This is why i could not go into any other gear. The front diff was also good.

I am going get the STI 6 speed and hope it holds together. Enjoy the pictures.














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Old 12-07-2003, 11:17 PM   #2
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wowzer, its insane to see what power can do to a weak tranny. Hmm ever thought of waiting to see if the Saab version of the wrx comes with a six speed w/out DCC?

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Old 12-07-2003, 11:22 PM   #3
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this was to be expected, since the extent of the modifications... its good to see a few pics here and there.

Did you ever get dyno #'s?

How much work was it to actually get the setup out of the car? Just a lot of unplugging or what?

How was the seperation of the tranny from the engine?

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Old 12-07-2003, 11:36 PM   #4
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BLAM

Im sorry I wasnt there to help.
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Old 12-08-2003, 12:09 AM   #5
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Dibs to the dude with the Mechanics gloves!!!!!

Everybody makes fun of me cause I wear em!!

(Mash your hand a couple times...........You will!. )


Get er back together bro!!

Peace

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Old 12-08-2003, 12:59 AM   #6
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what power are u making? holy crap!
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:06 AM   #7
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So what's the problem? 2nd gear should be just fine - NIIiiiiiice and quiet now when cruisn, no???

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

or was it

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Old 12-08-2003, 01:22 AM   #8
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Wooh thats one dead gear....

Glad to see the tear down went well, what are you looking at for cams? some STis?

Good luck!
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Old 12-08-2003, 03:09 AM   #9
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Dibs to the dude with the Mechanics gloves!!!!!

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I think you mean props not "dibs"
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Old 12-08-2003, 03:52 AM   #10
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Man you never stop with that car. You're gonna be happy with that sti 6 speed though.
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:13 PM   #11
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here is some info about the car:

it makes a lot of power.

it hasn't even had a chance to be dyno tested yet.

it was running 17 psi on 91 octane when the gear went, and nick wasn't racing. he was just driving to the store. he stepped on the throttle (not racing or anything) and that's when it happened. the car is way too fast for it's own good. 6 speed should help, although the low gearing won't be good for 1/4 mile racing. good thing it's a daily driver.

although only one gear was stripped, the other gears couldn't be accessed, because all the teeth were at the bottom of the tranny, and they jammed one of the shift forks, so it couldn't go into any other gear. just neutral. once all the pieces were cleared out, it shifts fine. it could be reinstalled into the car right now and all gears except 2 would work fine.
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:16 PM   #12
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Gears often strip like that when driven easily. My second gear did the same thing, nice easy shift to second and all of a sudden it was gone. *shrug*


BTW, what's with the chain around the powdercoated intake manifold?? You know, there are brackets to put chains to on the motor already...
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:36 PM   #13
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that's actually an orange and black rope, not a chain. and the manifold is just painted, not powdercoated. but i think it's going to get painted again anyway, so it's ok.
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:40 PM   #14
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We didnt have any chain at the time so we used my 3 braid rope. I was waiting for someone to say some thing about it. My intake manifold is paited so its okay if it comes off. I was going to repaint it. The rope is very strong. It has a working load of 278 lbs with one length. I wraped it around 3 times on each side so that should be good for 834 lbs. Plus the breaking strength on them is 3340 lbs each.

As for the gear breaking. I was driving it hard, shifted into second, the wheels spun, as soon as it grabbed, the gear broke. Then the tach went to the floor and I heard some nasty noise.
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:44 PM   #15
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looks like you're at it again. Check out the JUN 272 cams Mine drive fine with 10psi or power. Still waiting on a FMIC
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:46 PM   #16
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:47 PM   #17
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I dont know if i want such drastic cams. I was thinking of the 264's or sti 256's. I just want something that will drop in. Will I have to have my shims re-done if i put any cams in?
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:48 PM   #18
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Nick... you need a mustang 5.0 throttle body. or lets at least PNP yours That is like drinking coffee through those small stirer straws
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Ahhh, rope. I see now.

Yeah, I never have chain either, but my engine crane is as basic as you get. 2x10 across the attic opening with a large tow strap looped over and hanging down, and a come-along to attach through the tow straps to the motor. Lift motor, push car back. Simple, but it works.
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sounds good, but what does PNP mean.
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I dont know if i want such drastic cams. I was thinking of the 264's or sti 256's. I just want something that will drop in. Will I have to have my shims re-done if i put any cams in?
If you mean "if I change my cams will I have to buy buckets to allow for proper valve clearance?" The answer is yes. Maybe not all 16 (that is, if you are already shimless), but you'll be buying some.

BTW, if you find out where to get these reasonably, let me know....I need 'em also.
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SHIMS? Ah man, come on. Shimless buckets are in need The 272s didn't seem to compromise to much bottom end, but then again I only have stock stis to compare this with :/ 264s would be fun, but in the back of your mind you may always wonder what 272s feel like I know you need new springs with the 272s, but I believe Ron said I can squeeze by with the stock valve springs on 264s. That was stock JDM sti valve springs though. They are an upgrade over the wrx ones. Shoot, I just sold my set last week too. Any who, I may have some JDM Sti v8 cams in a week if you are looking.
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PNP = Port N Polish. All you need to run a 5.0 throttle body is a atapter plate and the ford TPS.
A BBK throttle body is like $189 for a 70mm and $199 for a 75mm from summit.
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Just out of curiousity, what gearset did that used to be in your car?
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SHIMS? Ah man, come on. Shimless buckets are in need The 272s didn't seem to compromise to much bottom end, but then again I only have stock stis to compare this with :/ 264s would be fun, but in the back of your mind you may always wonder what 272s feel like I know you need new springs with the 272s, but I believe Ron said I can squeeze by with the stock valve springs on 264s. That was stock JDM sti valve springs though. They are an upgrade over the wrx ones. Shoot, I just sold my set last week too. Any who, I may have some JDM Sti v8 cams in a week if you are looking.
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Currently I dont have the shimless buckets.

East Coast Scooby:

I dont want cams that are too large because I dont want to change too much stuff. Its still a street car and I dont have that much money. Remember that i am still a 22 year old guy in college, and I work alot. With installs and my day job it adds up to 50-60 hours a week of work. I dont want to cheap the car, but i think sti cams or 264's will do the job. What are my options? Money is an issue with my car and I stopped using credit cars about 12 months ago, so it takes alot longer to save money.

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My throttle body is already ported and polished, along with my intake manifold, and sti injector housings. Also since there is so little room under my hood, if i get a mustang throttlebody and adapter, the throttle body would sit closer to the firewall. Then my air/water intercooler may not fit.
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