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Old 06-24-2020, 08:30 PM   #1
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I bought this car 45 years ago when I was around 14. I hacked it up with plans of putting in a small block Chevy. As I have aged I have come to think Subaru's are pretty good cars. Any way I want to turn this car ( 1961 Vauxhall Super Victor) into a Subaru drive train, motor, trans and steering. I have no idea what year of Subaru I should be looking for. We have owned 89, 97 06 and some little tiny red one I bought that was totaled at 350 miles. It seems like less electronics would be better, but what is a good year to work with? We are in the process of building a rotisserie for it so I wont have to climb under it and it seems like
it would be a heck of a lot easier if the car was upside down to make the changes which I am sure will be a lot. I have a fabricating business so i have a bit of an idea what I am in for. Thanks in advance for any advice
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You might want to post this over in the Subaru Conversion forum instead.
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Old 06-24-2020, 08:57 PM   #3
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awd subie powertrain would be neat, but that thing would look killer with a blower sticking out of the hood atop a sbc.
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Old 06-24-2020, 10:49 PM   #4
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You might want to post this over in the Subaru Conversion forum instead.
I guess I am new here and they wouldnt let me post this in there. They said I had to get something going in other areas. ???? I dont know. Thats where I tried first
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Old 06-25-2020, 08:14 AM   #5
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Dropping a sbc into it would be child's play. Getting an AWD Subaru drivetrain into it will not be. I'd estimate doing the sbc would take a couple weekends and require fabrication of motor mounts and trans mount and drive shaft. Subaru? Build a space shuttle for practice. Well, not that bad, but you're talking everything.
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Old 06-25-2020, 05:20 PM   #6
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I usually dont go the easy way. In our business, pulling a rabbit out of of the hat is what we do.
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I am sure I am underestimating what it will take, but I have some time left, I think.
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Old 06-26-2020, 10:16 AM   #7
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Do it, in the hot rod world that’s what it’s all about! I Checked out your link, you do some cool metal fab. If you move forward with this you need to take a lot of pics and post them as this will be cool!
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Old 06-26-2020, 10:53 AM   #8
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awd subie powertrain would be neat, but that thing would look killer with a blower sticking out of the hood atop a sbc.
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I usually dont go the easy way. In our business, pulling a rabbit out of of the hat is what we do.
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I am sure I am underestimating what it will take, but I have some time left, I think.
Have you ever done a full frame off restoration (that thing will require that) on a junkyard car over 50 years sitting?
I have.
Calling that the 'easy way' is kind of ridiculous.
Mine is a 1950 and I did it the "easy way" with a bbc and I have over 2500 hours (not dollars) of time in it. I did everything single handed except upholster the seat.

I guess you could say it would be the easy way if you just want it to start and drive but still look like a turd on wheels
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Old 06-26-2020, 12:02 PM   #9
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Not saying anything about the restoration part, but the swap shouldn't (maybe?) be worse than what this guy did to a BRZ.
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Old 06-27-2020, 05:38 PM   #10
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Have you ever done a full frame off restoration (that thing will require that) on a junkyard car over 50 years sitting?
I have.
Calling that the 'easy way' is kind of ridiculous.
Mine is a 1950 and I did it the "easy way" with a bbc and I have over 2500 hours (not dollars) of time in it. I did everything single handed except upholster the seat.

I guess you could say it would be the easy way if you just want it to start and drive but still look like a turd on wheels
Whats a 1950? Ive never heard of those
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:48 PM   #11
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To answer the OP question. IMHO 2002+ STI pretty much through 2020. If you can find a 2018 or newer donor you get the bigger brakes. GD (02-07) cars might be easier to swap in the rear suspension.


If you do go forward with it good luck and certainly do a build thread. Some of those string along for years.
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Old 06-27-2020, 09:02 PM   #12
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I bought this car 45 years ago when I was around 14. I hacked it up with plans of putting in a small block Chevy. As I have aged I have come to think Subaru's are pretty good cars. Any way I want to turn this car ( 1961 Vauxhall Super Victor) into a Subaru drive train, motor, trans and steering. I have no idea what year of Subaru I should be looking for. We have owned 89, 97 06 and some little tiny red one I bought that was totaled at 350 miles. It seems like less electronics would be better, but what is a good year to work with? We are in the process of building a rotisserie for it so I wont have to climb under it and it seems like
it would be a heck of a lot easier if the car was upside down to make the changes which I am sure will be a lot. I have a fabricating business so i have a bit of an idea what I am in for. Thanks in advance for any advice
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I would read up on the factory five kit car where they use the donor subie. Might have some info there for you. Maybe that would be easier putting the old body on the subie donor car. The other way sounds like a project that might take another 45 years.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:40 AM   #13
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I would read up on the factory five kit car where they use the donor subie. Might have some info there for you. Maybe that would be easier putting the old body on the subie donor car.
This ^^^

Otherwise you'd be in for some sort of tube frame build and have to fit the frame to the Vauxhall and the Subie bits to the frame.

You might end up with a wide-body Vauxhall . . . probably will anyway given the width of an H4 engine.


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Old 06-28-2020, 02:30 PM   #14
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One of the motivators I have had recently is watching the early episodes of Project Binky. It's a bare bones show doing quality work that shows how to make things happen. I checked out the factory five kit cars and think it's probably out of my budget. I guarantee our guys full time employment and use these projects as a way of keeping them busy during slow times while at the same time getting things done for myself. I believe I have somewhat of an eye for quality but I am not looking for a show car, I want a daily driver that looks nice and is very functional. Ive had nice chrome and paint before on a bike and didnt like the time it took to keep it up. I collected gas pumps for years and restored a few but always liked the looks of the pumps with the natural patina.
I joined this site to get input on the different Subaru's. Things like dependability in different years, parts availability, best fit for my wheel base needs and other helpful info. Thanks for the tips I am hoping they will let me move this post this in the modifications soon. LOL
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:15 AM   #15
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Whats a 1950? Ive never heard of those
It's a car from 1950
pretty sure that was obvious

Did you think I referred to doing all the work other than upholstering the seat in my space shuttle from 1950?
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:21 AM   #16
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I have somewhat of an eye for quality but I am not looking for a show car, I want a daily driver that looks nice and is very functional.
Yep, so to make that look nice I'd estimate around 500 hours of body work, paint prep and spraying alone.
I'm guessing the interior looks just like the exterior, so probably 200 total hours on that given the dash wiring will be all but disintegrated.
Then you can start on the drivetrain.

Maybe you should do it the "easy" way???
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It's a car from 1950
pretty sure that was obvious

Did you think I referred to doing all the work other than upholstering the seat in my space shuttle from 1950?
I had no idea they made Subaru's in 1950.
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I had no idea they made Subaru's in 1950.
it's a pickup truck dope, the model has less than nothing to do with anything I've said attempting to bring you into reality regarding the level of work you are casually discussing.

Frankly, the more you say the more it becomes clear how you bought a restoration project and 45 years later have done absolutely nothing to it. It seems you don't have the first idea what it would take to restore something in that condition, but you do know that you don't want to do it the "easy way"

Kind of funny, almost 5 decades zero progress but you don't want the option that will be well over a thousand hours of work because that's too easy for you.

I however bought a 1950 junkyard chevy pickup and put a minimum of 20 hours a week into it for 2 years and started the day I had it towed to my house.

Here's the advice you need:

Get off the computer and pull that heap out of the field and do something.
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it's a pickup truck dope, the model has less than nothing to do with anything I've said attempting to bring you into reality regarding the level of work you are casually discussing.

Frankly, the more you say the more it becomes clear how you bought a restoration project and 45 years later have done absolutely nothing to it. It seems you don't have the first idea what it would take to restore something in that condition, but you do know that you don't want to do it the "easy way"

Kind of funny, almost 5 decades zero progress but you don't want the option that will be well over a thousand hours of work because that's too easy for you.

I however bought a 1950 junkyard chevy pickup and put a minimum of 20 hours a week into it for 2 years and started the day I had it towed to my house.

Here's the advice you need:

Get off the computer and pull that heap out of the field and do something.
Why dont I meet you over in the 1950 pickup truck forum and we can talk about restoring a 1950 pickup truck. Go ahead and head over there and I will be there in a minute.
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Wow, that is some vintage you go there OP.

GL with the restoration.. should make for a fun Youtube channel.. maybe get sponsors to pitch in on the parts.
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Why dont I meet you over in the 1950 pickup truck forum and we can talk about restoring a 1950 pickup truck. Go ahead and head over there and I will be there in a minute.
Well "we" couldn't talk about restoring anything because only one of us has done it and one of us has been talking about it for longer than I've been alive

Honestly, your best bet would be getting on one of those tv shows where a crew shows up and restores somebody's project for them.
It's always the same shtick, they have some sad story but the reality is they:
Bought a major project
Thought they'd fiddle with it every Sunday afternoon for a few months and have a mint resto mod to cruise around in.
Then reality sets in and they realize they'll actually have to put in hard work a few hours every day for a couple years and they give up and let it sit.

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Wow, that is some vintage you go there OP.

GL with the restoration.. should make for a fun Youtube channel.. maybe get sponsors to pitch in on the parts.
sadly I'd bet next year at this time it won't have even moved from that field
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Well "we" couldn't talk about restoring anything because only one of us has done it and one of us has been talking about it for longer than I've been alive

Honestly, your best bet would be getting on one of those tv shows where a crew shows up and restores somebody's project for them.
It's always the same shtick, they have some sad story but the reality is they:
Bought a major project
Thought they'd fiddle with it every Sunday afternoon for a few months and have a mint resto mod to cruise around in.
Then reality sets in and they realize they'll actually have to put in hard work a few hours every day for a couple years and they give up and let it sit.



sadly I'd bet next year at this time it won't have even moved from that field
You have no idea who you are talking to, if you did, you would be embarrassed by your comments. I will leave it at that.
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