Street Mod.

[pignoseSTI]

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

By the way, were you at Mather a couple weeks ago with Sac chapter? If so, you met me and my buddy Aaron. We were the ones over talking to you went the crankhead couldn't get his beatdown Ryder truck out of the paddock.

Nope unfortunately I couldn't make the Mather event. My friend Justin with the gutted black fp STI did though. You probably met him

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[pignoseSTI]

Originally Posted by sti4rs

Seem like "hack it up all you want" is NOT "minor notching, bending, clearancing, grinding"

Does anyone know of any SM national cars with FMIC where the bumper is cut?

I remember Ron Pippin/Navid Kahangi ran a perrin fmic at a National tour and was told to fix the bumper beam as they just used the one supplied with the kit. Pretty sure they used a modified stock beam after that and didn't have an issue.

I modified my stock bumper beam "the minimum amount necessary to install an allowable modification" and the car beat Vic Sias at a Divisional. He looked and looked but didn't protest me. My bumper beam weighs exactly the same as stock too.

[BAN SUVS]

Originally Posted by pignoseSTI

Nope unfortunately I couldn't make the Mather event. My friend Justin with the gutted black fp STI did though. You probably met him

Oh yeah, he had an OBP '05, not CGM '06. All STis look alike to us GC guys.

[BAN SUVS]

Originally Posted by pignoseSTI

I remember Ron Pippin/Navid Kahangi ran a perrin fmic at a National tour and was told to fix the bumper beam as they just used the one supplied with the kit. Pretty sure they used a modified stock beam after that and didn't have an issue.

I modified my stock bumper beam "the minimum amount necessary to install an allowable modification" and the car beat Vic Sias at a Divisional. He looked and looked but didn't protest me. My bumper beam weighs exactly the same as stock too.

This is what I was thinking. If you're cutting and notching and bending was solely to fit the FMIC core and pipes and your weight isn't reduced, you're following both the letter and the spirit of the rule.

[sti4rs]

sounds good to me.

[ndmorespd]

Originally Posted by subydude

2000 Impreza #65 SM from the Ohio Valley Region
Rota Grid 18x10 +35

Subydude, how in the world did you get such a flare out of your fenders? Tips/Tricks, want to spend a weekend in Sac rolling mine??


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E85
Readily available near my home, could someone elaborate a bit more for me what advantage E85 would have (I know noob question). From what I understand E85 is a little higher than standard pump gas, but... Anyone running it yet? Would you be able to have more than one map for race gas, pump gas and E85 and possibly switch between them?

Mike

[ChrisW]

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

The DSP line is "Impreza 2.5" which includes every NA EJ25 Impreza. So '98-'10 NA Imprezas (other than 2.2) can be taken apart and put back together all mix-and-matched. Which makes the GD dash and heaterbox and all that stuff legal. So the complete STi swap is okay because the interior stuff is UD/BD and the drivetrain stuff is SM legal.

And you cna't use a FMIC in SM because you can't modify bumper beams enough to make them fit, last I heard.

the key behind this rule is they don't want you to gut the crash beam to make it lighter than the original piece.

What some EVO competitors have done to fit larger FMIC's and to fit the JDM rear bumper skin, is to cut the beam to fit the FMIC or bumper skin, then weld on the same amount of material you took off to keep the weight the same. While the cutting has raised eyebrows, the fact that weight was added back to the bumper beam has so far kept any protest from getting filed.

hope that helps..

[subydude]

Originally Posted by ndmorespd

Subydude, how in the world did you get such a flare out of your fenders? Tips/Tricks, want to spend a weekend in Sac rolling mine??

Mike

A body shop, cutting wheel, and welder When I bought the car it was rather beat up externally, so when I had it fixed and painted I had the body shop flare the fenders as well. Rears were cut and welded. Fronts were put on a hammer machine that pulled the front fenders out far enough to cover the wheel.

I like how it looks, and it does make people do double takes from time to time, but in all honesty if you wanted to do the "right" thing you'd just cut the fenders higher and run stiffer springs.

[BAN SUVS]

Originally Posted by ChrisW

the key behind this rule is they don't want you to gut the crash beam to make it lighter than the original piece.

What some EVO competitors have done to fit larger FMIC's and to fit the JDM rear bumper skin, is to cut the beam to fit the FMIC or bumper skin, then weld on the same amount of material you took off to keep the weight the same. While the cutting has raised eyebrows, the fact that weight was added back to the bumper beam has so far kept any protest from getting filed.

hope that helps..

Uh, yeah... this was just discussed for like 6 posts before this one.

[arco]

Do you know if there would be an issue running a v-mount for one thing? Then would there be an issue with cutting away at the radiator support and/or not running a bumper beam to make it fit?

I checked out every post in this thread right now. I know that there is an allowance of cutting the stock beam fit other modifications as the weight is less than 1lb. I'm not sure of the radiator support to fit the same ruling as long I add on the same weight which was removed.

I know people will say the v-mount is overkill for anything really "needed". I just got a good deal, and I'm looking at cutting down lag. I'm using the stock JDM twinscroll setup so it'll be pretty smooth spooling with the new intercooler setup. I'm not getting the v-mount to be prepare for Solo or SM, rather it is for my own sake of doing something unique and performance oriented, and then it would be nice to have at SM. It really did not cost me as much as the kits you see sold by venders.

I'm currently on my PWR TMIC so it is not an option to flip the manifold yet. Instead of getting a FMIC, I used the same money I would have spent for the FMIC and got the used custom v-mount for just slightly more. I already planned to reverse the manifold and route it to the v-mount. Those were my main incentives.

(jee... that was lengthy... haha)

[arco]

also I read that lightweight trunks will place you out of SM from the Auto-X Sticky. Some people have listed them and have been running in it still. Has that changed? Is that now allowed? Sorry for all the questions. I feel like these two posts will be just the start of me making sure I'm not bumped any farther up in class

[ndmorespd]

Originally Posted by arco

Do you know if there would be an issue running a v-mount for one thing?

From the Auto-X Rules: Read This First thread (yes repost of my opinion):

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Gotcha. I guess if you're careful with your prep of the V-mount install, it's legal since both intercoolers and radiators may be modified. As long as the weight of the support members you modify doesn't change and you don't relocate them any more than strictly necessary you should be safe from protest.

Maybe I am just not familiar enough with the extent of the modifications required to mount the VMIC but it seems there would be pretty significant modifications to the bumper, bumper beam, radiator support etc...

From the 2010 Rulebook:

Originally Posted by SCCA Rules

16.1.P
This rule is intended to allow minor notching, bending, clearancing, grinding; the drilling of holes; affixing, relocating, or strengthening of brackets; removal of small parts, and similar operations performed in order to facilitate the installation of allowed parts or modifications.

Originally Posted by SCCA Rules

16.1.P
Competitors are strongly cautioned to make the minimum amount of modification required to affix a given part, and to not make unduly tortured interpretations of this rule.

But as much as I hate to ruin the party remember that all rules from lower classes apply, and as I don't see anything in the SM rules about radiators I began tracking backwards and found the following in the SP class:

Originally Posted by SCCA Rules

15.L. Engine cooling radiators may be replaced with alternate parts subject
to the following restrictions:
1. Radiator core dimensions (width, height, thickness) must be no
smaller than the standard part.
2. Radiator must mount to OE radiator mounts.
3. Fluid capacity and dry weight of the radiator must be no less than
that of the standard part. Installation of an alternate radiator may serve no other purpose (e.g. to allow a cold air intake passage).

Notice the last portion there says "e.g." I would venture a SWAG that allowing Intercooler installation might fit in here...


As for the lightweight trunk:

Originally Posted by SCCA Rules

16.1.I.
Front hoods (engine covers), engine covers, trunk lids and hatches not containing glass, front fenders, rear fenders not part of chassis structure (unibody), front & rear facias, and side skirts may be modified or replaced, and may be attached with removable fasteners.
Associated hardware including latches, hinges, and window washer nozzles may be modifi ed, removed, or replaced. This does not permit removal of the remainder of the window washer system. Fenders may be flared as per Street Prepared. Non-metallic fender liners maybe modified, replaced, or removed.

Mike

[arco]

Great and perfect. I'm happy that I can use my new trunk. =)

Thank you Velocity Carbon!

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Soon I'll be working on my fitment for new wheels and then my v-mount

[subydude]

Little update on my SM car: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...14&postcount=1

The q-rack is in and working...man is it awesome! First event is May 15th so lots of first time tests going to happen in a few days.

[pignoseSTI]

The q-rack is on my list of things to do as well, and was something that I was going to purchase in the next couple weeks, but I think I blew my center diff

[BAN SUVS]

I just picked one up for my FP build too. Can't wait to try it.

[speedyHAM]

Originally Posted by ndmorespd

E85
Readily available near my home, could someone elaborate a bit more for me what advantage E85 would have (I know noob question). From what I understand E85 is a little higher than standard pump gas, but... Anyone running it yet? Would you be able to have more than one map for race gas, pump gas and E85 and possibly switch between them?

Mike

I run E85 in my XP car and picked up 10whp and 60 ft-lbs of torque when I retuned for it. The E85 burns cooler, and has much lower energy density so you need much larger fuel injectors. With a TD04 on a 2.0L engine I have pretty much maxed out 665 cc injectors. E85 is around 105 octane, that's where the extra power can be made from.

[ndmorespd]

Originally Posted by speedyHAM

I run E85 in my XP car and picked up 10whp and 60 ft-lbs of torque when I retuned for it. The E85 burns cooler, and has much lower energy density so you need much larger fuel injectors. With a TD04 on a 2.0L engine I have pretty much maxed out 665 cc injectors. E85 is around 105 octane, that's where the extra power can be made from.

After my post I did a fair amount of digging around the net and various forums, the biggest issue I seem to have noticed is the illegality in Californazi in changing your fuel system without a properly approved kit... What if anything have you had do do to your fuel system (tank, pumps, lines etc) to accommodate the e85?

Mike

[speedyHAM]

Originally Posted by ndmorespd

After my post I did a fair amount of digging around the net and various forums, the biggest issue I seem to have noticed is the illegality in Californazi in changing your fuel system without a properly approved kit... What if anything have you had do do to your fuel system (tank, pumps, lines etc) to accommodate the e85?

Mike

I changed the in-tank pump to a Walboro 255. It fits in the stock location, plugs into the stock harness, and works with the rest of the stock fuel system. Depending on the year of your car you would also have to change the fuel injectors or get the stock ones modded.

[ndmorespd]

Originally Posted by speedyHAM

I changed the in-tank pump to a Walboro 255. It fits in the stock location, plugs into the stock harness, and works with the rest of the stock fuel system. Depending on the year of your car you would also have to change the fuel injectors or get the stock ones modded.

How long have you run the e85? Any issues with seals, leakage etc? I ask as there seems to be conflicting opinions as to newer feul systems being able to handle to more corrosive fuel, some people claiming cars newer than "19xx" should have no problem with others of course claiming different facts... Any chance you have had to run a smog check of any sort, do you know if the emissions are any better or worse than with traditional gas?

[06 WrX Limited]

What would be my best bet for a set of tires for upcoming event?

[speedyHAM]

Originally Posted by ndmorespd

How long have you run the e85? Any issues with seals, leakage etc? I ask as there seems to be conflicting opinions as to newer feul systems being able to handle to more corrosive fuel, some people claiming cars newer than "19xx" should have no problem with others of course claiming different facts... Any chance you have had to run a smog check of any sort, do you know if the emissions are any better or worse than with traditional gas?

I've been running E85 for two years. I have been checking my fuel system regularly for signs of corrosion and have found no degradation. There are people around town here (Minneapolis) that have been running E85 for 6-7 years with no issues. No smog checks for my car, I'm pretty sure it would not pass any emissions tests.

Originally Posted by 06 WrX Limited

What would be my best bet for a set of tires for upcoming event?

Hoosier A6's. Without knowing anything else about your car that's the best advice I can give you.

[RS_to_WRX_swap]

Anyone know the cheapest place to get some custom steel wheels? And any idea on offset for a 15x9or10 in a 95 impreza?

[pignoseSTI]

diamond racing wheels are pretty cheap steel wheels. I'd spend a bit more and get spinwerks though. Much lighter than the heavy diamond racing wheels and still relatively inexpensive.

[pignoseSTI]

Originally Posted by ndmorespd

How long have you run the e85? Any issues with seals, leakage etc? I ask as there seems to be conflicting opinions as to newer feul systems being able to handle to more corrosive fuel, some people claiming cars newer than "19xx" should have no problem with others of course claiming different facts... Any chance you have had to run a smog check of any sort, do you know if the emissions are any better or worse than with traditional gas?

Some of the local evo guys here have passed our strict emission test with flying colors on e85, some even without a cat Stuff burns pretty clean i guess