|
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
03-13-2007, 12:48 AM | #1 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Why do hid bulbs cost same as entire kit?
Just wondering why an aftermarket set of replacement hid bulbs costs as much as or more than the entire kit with ballasts? Do the bulbs really wear out that quickly?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
|
03-13-2007, 01:03 AM | #2 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 140712
Join Date: Feb 2007
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:2008 WRX STI White |
um, good bulbs are around 100 bucks a pair, and good ballasts with bulbs are around 350 or so. so, bulbs are cheaper then ballasts.
Shane |
03-13-2007, 01:18 AM | #3 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Ummm.. I should have known a vendor would chime in with the first answer. I wasn't talking about retrofitting crap from other vehicles into ours. I was referring to the average everday kits you can buy for just over $100. The kits are just over $100/the replacement bulbs for the same kits are just over $100. Everyone is just going to have to get used to the fact that the cost of these kits are getting lower and eventually a "proper" retrofit will be a thing of the past. Go ahead and get the business while the "gittin's good" because these cheap aftermarket companies are improving their product everyday, while some people are just recycling "OEM" (not SUBARU OEM) equipment. Some will preach from their high horse till the cows come home, but considering how many people are already riding around with their oem halogen bulbs improperly adjusted because they've already swapped their oem bulbs several times, and we are already dealing with glare from stock setups, I really could care less what they think about my "cheap" setup. I adjusted mine to a level I felt comfortable with and haven't had anyone flash me since.
Signed: another satisfied "cheap" hid kit user Last edited by 2slofouru; 03-13-2007 at 01:31 AM. Reason: The smiley makes everything aok |
03-13-2007, 02:53 AM | #4 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 112992
Join Date: Apr 2006
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: SoCal
Vehicle:2006 WRX TR Crystal Gray |
What the heck are you talking about?? He doesn't even sell HIDs...
|
03-13-2007, 09:39 AM | #5 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
I said Vendor, not hid vendor. And if he/she doesn't know what I'm talking about "Um" shouldn't be the first word in the response (and yet still no answer as to the strategy behind the weird pricing..)
|
03-13-2007, 09:43 AM | #6 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 99289
Join Date: Oct 2005
|
He's not the butthurt one.
|
03-13-2007, 09:48 AM | #7 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
This is what makes Nasioc so special. So many replies that have nothing to do with the original post, clouding the primary purpose of the thread: to ask and learn. I did a search to find the answer and nothing, so now I have to see every other useless reply in the hopes that someone will actually see the original post and honestly be helpful.
|
03-13-2007, 09:51 AM | #8 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 99289
Join Date: Oct 2005
|
The answer is: because you bought cheap ****. What do you expect us to say? You bought a kit with a cheap ballast, cheap optics, and lamps. You were sold this knowing that you would have to buy lamps again and again and again. See the Gillette model of doing business.
|
03-13-2007, 10:00 AM | #9 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Quote:
What the H E L L are you talking about? I am not shopping for bulbs! I never said I was I was asking because a friend at work and I were screwing around on ebay and he is thinking of buying some projector headlamps that come with the hid upgrade for his truck. Why is it so many people have to ASSume things and blurt out nonsense? Is it Nasioc PMS time or something? HOly CaRp!!! My bulbs are fine, I am just trying to find out why the same sellers that sell the entire kits price the pair of replacement bulbs the same as the entire kits with ballasts. WTF |
|
03-13-2007, 10:06 AM | #10 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 99289
Join Date: Oct 2005
|
|
03-13-2007, 10:07 AM | #11 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
|
03-13-2007, 11:11 AM | #12 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 72031
Join Date: Oct 2004
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: poor grammar fuels my anger
Vehicle:2017 SS 1LE |
Quote:
1. based on internet reviews, NASIOC reviews, etc... on these cheap HID kits, the ballasts fail before the bulbs do. this would be the equivalent of your gillette handle failing before the blade. 2. the bulbs from different ebay sellers are pretty much interchangeable. the ebay sellers do not "brand" their kits, so you just have to look at pictures to see what will probably fit. the connectors are starting to all look the same. if it doesn't fit, you just wire it in yourself. this would be the equivalent of multiple companies making blades that fit in gillette's handle. my point is that the price is not high because they are trying to imitate gillette's very successful business strategy. i have no idea why it is so high, my guess is... guys who don't know what they're doing mess up a bulb or two on installation. as soon as the bulb is out of the protective housing, it is no longer under warranty. so, these guys cry to the seller, and the seller says, "sorry, it's no longer under warranty, but i have these bulbs for sale that came with your kit. check this auction number." these guys then buy these overpriced bulbs. honestly, who knows? eventually, i think it'll go down because of competition just like how the price of hid kits has gone down. |
|
03-13-2007, 04:20 PM | #13 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 140712
Join Date: Feb 2007
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:2008 WRX STI White |
Quote:
Cliff notes, buy good **** and don’t worry about it Shane |
|
03-13-2007, 04:30 PM | #14 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 62595
Join Date: May 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:04 WRX Cobb S2 World Rally Blue |
Quote:
And I guess you must have gotten your HID kit for a great price, cause typically capsules may cost $100+ but ballasts are usually $300 or so. |
|
03-13-2007, 04:37 PM | #15 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 29355
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: seattle
|
no, he didn't get his kit for a great price. he got ****ty a ****ty kit at a bad price. bad hardware isn't worth 120 dollars.
this is like asking why a wheel for a racing bicycle costs the same as a ****ty "next" brand bike at walmart. or why the engine of a bmw M3 costs as much as a KIA. or why a fine cut of meat for use in a dinner that will feed three costs as much as three taco bell meals. or why medication for recovering from surgery costs as much here as the whole surgery costs in mexico. or why a good pickup for an electric guitar will cost more than the cheap crap guitars they sell at target. |
03-14-2007, 04:17 PM | #16 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Quote:
Thanks for the non judgemental/non douchebag answer. I actually bought the kit that was 190 shipped. It is single bulb (CAPSULE! ) type that moves it back to imitate the positions of the original bulb filaments. I didn't have any problems with aiming and the only annoyance is that both sides flicker one time about two to three minutes after startup. And it is NOT a *****y kit, it does exactly what I want it to do, and I didn't have to RIG some other car's projectors into my headlamps. I didn't want to ruin my 98 oem crystal headlamps.. took me too long to find them. |
|
03-14-2007, 04:57 PM | #17 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 525
Join Date: Nov 1999
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Drives a Ford Interceptor
Vehicle:<<98 2.5RS(RIP)>> 02, Cobb stg 2.5, FMIC |
I love my retrofit, even though my light housings had to to modded. It's the best 'rig' job i've ever seen .....Zero glare, bright as heck plus the cutoff is sweet
|
03-14-2007, 05:06 PM | #18 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Quote:
How about this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XENON...91236758QQrdZ1 They don't look too cheezy, better than the black type IMO. |
|
03-14-2007, 05:31 PM | #19 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 525
Join Date: Nov 1999
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Drives a Ford Interceptor
Vehicle:<<98 2.5RS(RIP)>> 02, Cobb stg 2.5, FMIC |
I don't know, the chrome look is not cool IMHO and 8000k is definitely not good. The light output at that color temp sucks. You'd be better off with VisionPlus bulbs in the OEM reflector housings, again that's my opinion.
|
03-14-2007, 05:33 PM | #20 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Yeah, I've messaged them about getting 6000k but they haven't responded. I used to think the chromy stuff was ghey, but since I have the crystal RS lights and crystal corner lamps, I don't know if it will be much different.
|
03-14-2007, 05:44 PM | #21 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 16283
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boobies!
Vehicle:Teh Car n00b! G-Club represent!!! |
I think what you're referring to in regards to pricing are "rebased bulbs" since those usually come with those cheaper hid kits that'll fit into any housing. Basically taking OEM HID bulbs (d2s/d2r) bulbs and changing the base to any halogen bulb base. I'm sure after making 100+ of those, whoever is selling them probably thinks they are worth more since they had to go through all that time and effort to get them rebased. There are not very many vendors out there who sell just rebased bulbs....while there are a lot of vendors out there who sell rebased kits.
Just my .02. |
03-14-2007, 06:21 PM | #22 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 125432
Join Date: Sep 2006
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Clifton NJ
Vehicle:2004 E46 M3 http://lightwerkz.net |
The last thing you want to do are buy those lamps and drop a 6000k plug and play kit in there.
I also agree that you are better off getting brighter halgoen bulbs, thats actually an upgrade. Your attitude isnt going to get you very far either. |
03-15-2007, 12:43 AM | #23 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 90539
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: SWLA
Vehicle:My BOV goes COVFEFE! |
Its gotten me where I want to be so far, so don't knock it. Maybe its not my attitude that bothers you, but my ability to think for myself and not follow the trendy wannabes. Frankly, I really don't care what you or your sheep think about my attitude. And if you're going to come into a thread I started with an earnest question for knowledge and get snippy with me, I will thank you to keep your cocky comments to yourself.
|
03-15-2007, 12:46 AM | #24 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 62595
Join Date: May 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:04 WRX Cobb S2 World Rally Blue |
Quote:
|
|
03-15-2007, 12:50 AM | #25 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 99289
Join Date: Oct 2005
|
your ****ty comments are pretty much what turned this thread off. Someone tried to help you, and you were a dick.
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
why do sti clutches cost more than wrx clutches | F ur PONY | Transmission (AT/MT) & Driveline | 4 | 02-15-2009 02:33 AM |
Why do RE-92s cost so much? | ChrisRT | General Community | 99 | 12-04-2007 04:52 PM |
KYB GR-2's why 02/03 not the same as '04 | Georgethefierce | Brakes, Steering & Suspension | 8 | 02-18-2006 12:28 AM |
do JDM HIDs look the same as JDM non-HIDs? | quest | Interior & Exterior Modification | 14 | 09-24-2003 04:16 PM |