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Old 01-11-2023, 01:09 PM   #676
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Rewind 10 years and enthusiasts bitched and moaned about sensors... too costly, pain in the ass to swap wheels, tire pressure is something drivers should be checking anyway, blah blah. Manufacturers find a way to do the same thing without sensors, and that's the problem?

Didn't have sensors on my R and I thought it was awesome. The system did it's job well. Alerted me to low pressures in the fall, and the one time I got a flat it was pretty quick to alert me, I think it was only like a 5-6 psi difference by the time it threw up an alert.
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Old 01-11-2023, 01:43 PM   #677
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Rewind 10 years and enthusiasts bitched and moaned about sensors... too costly, pain in the ass to swap wheels, tire pressure is something drivers should be checking anyway, blah blah. Manufacturers find a way to do the same thing without sensors, and that's the problem?

Didn't have sensors on my R and I thought it was awesome. The system did it's job well. Alerted me to low pressures in the fall, and the one time I got a flat it was pretty quick to alert me, I think it was only like a 5-6 psi difference by the time it threw up an alert.
OT, but VW is recalling a bunch of cars to "fix" the TPMS warning implementation.
Apparently, if all 4 tires suddenly lose pressure at the same time, the "TPMS" warning doesn't trigger .
The local dealer has been hounding me to bring my R in .
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Old 01-11-2023, 01:58 PM   #678
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I love the fact that my Type R uses the wheel speed sensor for the TPMS. Makes switching between Summer, Winter, and Track wheels super easy.

Having the tire temps as a readout would make me change my tune maybe, but barring that I prefer the Honda method.
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Old 01-11-2023, 04:14 PM   #679
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OT, but VW is recalling a bunch of cars to "fix" the TPMS warning implementation.
Apparently, if all 4 tires suddenly lose pressure at the same time, the "TPMS" warning doesn't trigger .
The local dealer has been hounding me to bring my R in .
VW uses actual sensors?

I know Honda will do that because they just detect the minute differences in rolling speed between wheels so it can't catch it if all 4 tires have the same low psi.
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Old 01-11-2023, 07:16 PM   #680
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VW uses actual sensors?

I know Honda will do that because they just detect the minute differences in rolling speed between wheels so it can't catch it if all 4 tires have the same low psi.
No, VW doesn't use sensors. But, it seems like it's as you said, if all 4 tires suddenly deflate at the same time, the VW algorithm is not able to catch it quickly enough.

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Manufacturer Recall Number 45J6
NHTSA Recall Number 22V815

Summary
In a test environment, in rare cases, the tire pressure monitoring system may not detect an air pressure loss in the time specified in the NHTSA FMVSS No, 138 Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems test procedure if it occurs simultaneously at the same rate in all four tires.
A sudden loss of pressure in all four tires at the same time that goes undetected as required by regulations increases the risk of a crash.

Safety Risk
A sudden loss of pressure in all four tires at the same time that goes undetected as required by regulations increases the risk of a crash.

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Update the TPMS software.
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Old 01-19-2023, 03:17 PM   #681
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https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9WZ...a-civic-type-r

Love to see another flipper get shot down. This dope even included the sticker showing $67k before TTL.

c/n: New type R is a no sale at $49k
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Old 01-19-2023, 03:24 PM   #682
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Honda will build enough Type Rs for demand, unlike Toyota. The dealers here usually had 1-2 on the lots at all times. That guy is a moron if he thought he was going to turn a profit on a $47k car with a $20k markup on it.

Interest rates are going to hammer some of the guys buying these things so they'll be taken out of the market too. reducing demand.
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Old 01-26-2023, 05:13 PM   #683
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Between those two and you have a line on one for MSRP, it's not even a question.
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