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Old 12-25-2018, 11:49 PM   #31026
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My new snows should get a good workout

And i covered my fogs with amber laminx yesterday so with the yellow nokyn h11 bulbs in my outback fogs its a really good contrast!
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Old 12-27-2018, 03:07 PM   #31027
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Amber lamin-x over the outback h11 fogs with Nokyan yellow bulbs is a winner!!!! wonderful contrast this morning while driving in 3/4mi vis/snow. i wish i had tried this combo earlier.

oh, and my new snows performed as expected!!
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Old 12-28-2018, 03:50 PM   #31028
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Anyone replace the serpentine belt yet? Pretty easy job? Never done one before but looks easy enough. Cheap part as well.

Got the first squeal this morning just before 100k miles.
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Old 12-28-2018, 04:38 PM   #31029
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Anyone replace the serpentine belt yet? Pretty easy job? Never done one before but looks easy enough. Cheap part as well.

Got the first squeal this morning just before 100k miles.
Stupid easy. Could probably do it in 10minutes or less.
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:58 PM   #31030
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Anyone replace the serpentine belt yet? Pretty easy job?
Done it twice. It's easy.

I use Goodyear Gatorbacks, probably the most squeal/glaze resistant belt out there.
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:21 PM   #31031
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Done it twice. It's easy.



I use Goodyear Gatorbacks, probably the most squeal/glaze resistant belt out there.


I gave up on those and went Gates, much happier
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:11 PM   #31032
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Got an official letter from Subaru about the valve spring recall. Says they will replace the valve springs and offer a free loaner car if they have to keep it for an extended period of time.

Says itís about a 7 hr job.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:36 AM   #31033
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Got an official letter from Subaru about the valve spring recall. Says they will replace the valve springs and offer a free loaner car if they have to keep it for an extended period of time.

Says itís about a 7 hr job.
Haven't gotten my official letter, but keep getting the notification from my dealer via email. You going in for it?
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:38 AM   #31034
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Haven't gotten my official letter, but keep getting the notification from my dealer via email. You going in for it?


5% of me says yes, 95% of me says no effing way.

Havenít been notified yet
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:00 AM   #31035
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Iíll lrobably get it done kn a few years. Maybe wait till something starts leaking and have them fix it while they are in there?

Not sure yet
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:47 PM   #31036
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i have about 10k now on my "new" engine, 35k total on the engine. so far no leaks since tearing pretty much everything down and reassembling it.

looks like my recall letter came in the mail today. maybe i will just ask subaru to reimburse me for the cost of my engine swap. i really don't trust a dealer mechanic to clean and reseal the engine as well as I did.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:49 PM   #31037
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Lol. Good luck with that
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:33 PM   #31038
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Got my letter today. I will probably have it done so they can fix my oil leak from the cam carrier or wherever itís leaking from.

Going to go to a different Subaru dealer for it though, no way Iím going to bring it to the same place that did my short block
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:36 PM   #31039
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Just got mine today as well. Agree Angelus. No chance I'm going back where I had to revisit 6 times to get my short block right...probably going to wait a few months though...let the techs work out the kinks and learn the repair well before going in.
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:25 AM   #31040
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i didn't read the letter, but do they even have a fix yet??? i think they are still figuring that out
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Old 01-13-2019, 01:39 AM   #31041
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Yeah, just like dieseldorf saw, 7 hour fix to replace springs. I want to know though what other parts are replaced. This is a bigger job than the short block in my mind. Not sure how they're gonna do it in have the time.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:05 AM   #31042
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Yeah, just like dieseldorf saw, 7 hour fix to replace springs. I want to know though what other parts are replaced. This is a bigger job than the short block in my mind. Not sure how they're gonna do it in have the time.


Not really, 7hrs is short i agree, but much less woek than short block

1. Pull engine
2. Remove front cover
3. Valve covers
4. Timing chain
5. Cam carriers
6. Replace valve springs
7. Reassemble

Could almost do it with engine in car, but keeping the rocker arms in place when they are sitting vertically wedged between cams and valves would prove awfully difficult

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Old 01-13-2019, 08:07 AM   #31043
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From the sound of it it said they would just replace he springs.

Either stronger ones or ones that donít have defects maybe?
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:36 AM   #31044
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So I found out that for Impreza and Crosstrek the repair does not involve removing the timing cover or cam carriers. Only BRZ FA engines will require cam removal and it’s a 13 hour job vs 7, apparently due to the head shape difference from to the direct injectors.

There are special tools that once the motor is pulled , only the valve covers are removed.

Cams and carriers will not be taken off to replace the springs. A regulated air charge will pressurize one cylinder holding the valves closed with each cylinder at TDC, one at a time.

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Old 01-13-2019, 12:58 PM   #31045
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So I found out that for Impreza and Crosstrek the repair does not involve removing the timing cover or cam carriers. Only BRZ FA engines will require cam removal and itís a 13 hour job vs 7, apparently due to the head shape difference from to the direct injectors.

There are special tools that once the motor is pulled , only the valve covers are removed.

Cams and carriers will not be taken off to replace the springs. A regulated air charge will pressurize one cylinder holding the valves closed with each cylinder at TDC, one at a time.


Thatís normally how you would do it.

I still donít trust a dealer to pull a motor
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:24 AM   #31046
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So I found out that for Impreza and Crosstrek the repair does not involve removing the timing cover or cam carriers. Only BRZ FA engines will require cam removal and it’s a 13 hour job vs 7, apparently due to the head shape difference from to the direct injectors.

There are special tools that once the motor is pulled , only the valve covers are removed.

Cams and carriers will not be taken off to replace the springs. A regulated air charge will pressurize one cylinder holding the valves closed with each cylinder at TDC, one at a time.
Where did you find the info about what is involved?

Also, maybe I'm not familiar enough with the newer Subaru engines but how are they doing this without removing the cams / timing chain in the Imprez/XV? I don't see any way to get to the springs with it still in.



I hope they are not using the "hammer" method to remove the springs without taking off the cylinder head:
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Model Year Carline Production Range
2013 BRZ 12/09/2011 - 07/02/2013
2013 XV Crosstrek 05/17/2012 - 07/02/2013
2012-2013 Impreza 01/17/12 - 06/13/2013
2014 Impreza 10/3/2013

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For FA engine:
• Timing cover, timing chain, camshaft (and related components) removal is required for
access.
• The valve spring replacement tools consist of one remover and one installer.
Bulletin Number: WTY-84; Date: 01/04/19 Page 4 of 32
Continued...

For FB engine:
• Timing cover (and related components) removal is NOT required for access.
• The valve spring replacement tools consist of a set of four different spring compressor tools,
two retainer / keeper re-installation tools and a “bridge” framework to properly position each
tool.

Both the FA and FB procedures require removal of the engine assembly.

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Old 01-14-2019, 02:16 PM   #31048
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i too got this notice by email from two dealers i've used for service/parts and another notice in the mail. all of these notice suggest the work needs to be done immediately. yet, like many of you, i'm reluctant to part ways with my car, especially given the fiasco and long journey of the local dealer who did my timing chain cover/cam carrier repair a couple of years ago.

i am almost certain to use a different dealer but that makes my scheduling more challenging with work constraints. but i wonder how big a risk we run by waiting a few months or longer to get this work done.
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For FA engine:
ē Timing cover, timing chain, camshaft (and related components) removal is required for
access.
ē The valve spring replacement tools consist of one remover and one installer.
Bulletin Number: WTY-84; Date: 01/04/19 Page 4 of 32
Continued...

For FB engine:
ē Timing cover (and related components) removal is NOT required for access.
ē The valve spring replacement tools consist of a set of four different spring compressor tools,
two retainer / keeper re-installation tools and a ďbridgeĒ framework to properly position each
tool.

Both the FA and FB procedures require removal of the engine assembly.
Thanks for the details, still from my picture above I don't know how they are getting to the springs without taking out the cams and timing sprocket/chain
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Until one is being done to get pictures "special tools" is all I got..
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