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Old 05-25-2020, 07:22 PM   #1
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Default WRX S4 STI Sport # - Final Complete STI

Basically is an S208 with a CVT
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"On May 26, 2020, STI (Subaru Technica International) announced STI's complete car, "WRX S4 STI Sport # (Sharp)", limited to 500 units on July 6, released from August 20 Announced to do.*The price is 4,741,000 yen.

 Order acceptance will start on May 26, and will end when the number of vehicles reaches 500 by October 22, 2020.
 The WRX S4 STI Sport # announced this time was developed based on the catalog model S4 STI Sport, and it will be the first S4 based complete car in about 4 years since the S4 tS released in September 2016.

 Currently, WRX S4 has stopped receiving orders, but it was for the annual improvement that will be done at the same time as the announcement of this WRX S4 Sport #.

 The contents of the annual improvement were also announced.*The WRX S4 grade system has been reviewed, the existing GT and GT-S grades have been abolished, and the catalog model has become a lineup of S4 STI sports eye sight only.*Until now, only JC08 mode fuel consumption was supported, but after the annual improvement, it will also support WLTC mode fuel consumption.

 Since the current WRX STI catalog model has already been discontinued on December 23, 2019, this WRX S4 STI Sport # will be the most sporty model."

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Old 05-26-2020, 02:50 AM   #2
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Old 05-26-2020, 08:44 AM   #3
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:15 AM   #4
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Not even Nissan puts CVT’s in their performance cars let alone their halo car. What the hell is wrong with this company?
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:18 AM   #5
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Not even Nissan puts CVTs in their performance cars let alone their halo car. What the hell is wrong with this company?
they just don't have the R&D to make a separate transmission for such a low volume car. hopefully the cvt tranny won't be put in the new SGP car.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:57 AM   #6
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Old 05-26-2020, 10:13 AM   #7
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Well, it's a WRX. In Japan, the VA WRX was the first WRX in a long time, if not ever. It was just Impreza and STI. WRX S4 was CVT only since the STI had the manual. This is a CVT WRX with an STI performance package that makes it look like the S208.

Don't act like people in North America wouldn't eat that up.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:26 PM   #8
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:47 PM   #9
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:09 PM   #10
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they just don't have the R&D to make a separate transmission for such a low volume car. hopefully the cvt tranny won't be put in the new SGP car.
Mazda doesn't use CVT's and you can't tell me they have more money for R&D than Subaru. They could invest in a proper 8 speed auto to put into the Outback/Legacy, Ascent, and WRX/STI. The price range of these vehicles well equipped is at the point where most people expect more than a budget economy car transmission like a CVT. The reality is that over the past 15 years the bean counters have seized control of Subaru much like what happened with Honda and Toyota. They stretched the STI as outside of chassis it's essentially the same vehicle as it was in 2004. Subaru has done very well over the last decade and should have been able to invest money into a proper automatic transmission rather than go full Nissan as that's not a road that leads to long term success.
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:22 PM   #11
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Mazda doesn't use CVT's and you can't tell me they have more money for R&D than Subaru. They could invest in a proper 8 speed auto to put into the Outback/Legacy, Ascent, and WRX/STI. The price range of these vehicles well equipped is at the point where most people expect more than a budget economy car transmission like a CVT. The reality is that over the past 15 years the bean counters have seized control of Subaru much like what happened with Honda and Toyota. They stretched the STI as outside of chassis it's essentially the same vehicle as it was in 2004. Subaru has done very well over the last decade and should have been able to invest money into a proper automatic transmission rather than go full Nissan as that's not a road that leads to long term success.
Mazda spends 5 times more on R&D. The skyactiv X engine?... More powertrains, more models and more setups.
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:35 PM   #12
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Mazda doesn't use CVT's and you can't tell me they have more money for R&D than Subaru. They could invest in a proper 8 speed auto to put into the Outback/Legacy, Ascent, and WRX/STI. The price range of these vehicles well equipped is at the point where most people expect more than a budget economy car transmission like a CVT. The reality is that over the past 15 years the bean counters have seized control of Subaru much like what happened with Honda and Toyota. They stretched the STI as outside of chassis it's essentially the same vehicle as it was in 2004. Subaru has done very well over the last decade and should have been able to invest money into a proper automatic transmission rather than go full Nissan as that's not a road that leads to long term success.







You reeeeeealllllly need to look at the past ten years and see what Subaru has done with their money. Though I don't fully disagree with you, you are making as if they were just swimming in money. MANY things were invested in. I've posted a list of just what I know before. Mazda? COMPLETELY different engine and trans setup. How many cars does Mazda sell globally compared to Subaru? Hell. Suzuki doesn't sell here anymore and STILL outsells(by what? triple?) Subaru globally. And it's not as much bean counters(as the CVT costs a lot more than what it replaced) as it was the government. Do you remember the MPG gains that came with the move to CVT? And you think Subaru didn't research a geared transmission to get similar gains?


And I like how you say at the price of these cars "most people expect" more than a CVT?......dude. "Most" peopleSubaru buyers don't care. Proof there is in the pudding.....

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Old 05-26-2020, 08:20 PM   #13
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so is this supposed to mean that this is the true last offering of the WRX/STI in Japan?
as in next up is nextgen reveal?
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Old 05-26-2020, 08:50 PM   #14
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it is only a matter of time before we start seeing the wrx in camo. be it on the streets of Michigan, or being put through its paces on the nurburgring, they finished the levorg, the wrx is next
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:27 PM   #15
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Final Complete is a thing we do.
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Old 05-27-2020, 12:22 AM   #16
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:31 AM   #17
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Im pretty sure Subaru is all in on CVT and will not be returning to traditional or DCT technology. I had a 2011 outback with CVT and no fake gears. It was much better than my current Impreza with simulated gears. B it would go straight to peak torque and stay there. Made the 10 seconds to 60 feel a lot faster. LOL.
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Old 05-27-2020, 11:52 AM   #19
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On a Impreza (including my Forester) that's fine, but CVT has no place on a sports car for a car enthusiast. They sound like crap to begin with unless on a silent exhaust system.

This car is probably meant for the old crowd who no longer want to shift gears but wants to get from A to B in some sort of nostalgic style.
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Old 05-27-2020, 12:42 PM   #20
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I can't wait to see the 2020 STi - This is the end, really, edition that will be delivered into '21.
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Old 05-27-2020, 01:05 PM   #21
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0 x 5 = 0 Just kidding, but their products aren't all that great either. If it was, there would be a Mazda sitting in my garage or driveway right now.

MX5 is much too wimpy (my neighbor down the street has the Club with BBK, etc bleh), SUV's, hatch, sedan, all boring.
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Im pretty sure Subaru is all in on CVT and will not be returning to traditional or DCT technology. I had a 2011 outback with CVT and no fake gears. It was much better than my current Impreza with simulated gears. B it would go straight to peak torque and stay there. Made the 10 seconds to 60 feel a lot faster. LOL.
It was the no "shifting of gears" that got lots of complaints prompting them to put them in. From "average" buyers, I did get those complaints on the pre-2nd gen; but, since then, I can't say I've heard a single complaint except on here.
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Sucks that it is CVT only.
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Waiting for the 2021 Series.Orange announcement...
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Old 05-28-2020, 04:26 PM   #25
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Waiting for the 2021 Series.Orange announcement...



Get with times.......they've already had orange. Gotta get a new color.
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