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Old 06-05-2020, 10:52 AM   #1
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:07 AM   #2
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+5hp, full WRX, or half way there?
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:12 AM   #3
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Where will the extra power come from?

Add a turbo? Doubt it. Too much money.
Use 2.4L NA motor from Ascent? Also too expensive.
I'm guessing the most likely scenario would be a slightly more aggressive tune but still using 87 octane.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:18 AM   #4
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https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2917526

We already talked about it. It's getting the 2.5 liter engine from the Forester/Legacy/Outback.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:19 AM   #5
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Thanks subySerb! I didn't see that doing my digging before posting.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:49 AM   #6
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“and legendary Subaru reliability you’ve come to expect”



Excited to see how the 2.5 performs in the smaller Crosstrek. Pretty happy with the 2.5 in my Legacy overall!
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Old 06-05-2020, 12:23 PM   #7
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Someone posted the 2.5L should provide a decent noticeable bump in power.
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Old 06-05-2020, 12:25 PM   #8
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Someone posted the 2.5L should provide a decent noticeable bump in power.
The current engine totally sucks, so going from “sucks” to “adequate” should be noticeable.
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:19 PM   #9
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also, no manual with the 2.5L so F*** You Subaru; you can keep your CVT.
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:31 PM   #10
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Nothing says sport like a CVT transmission!
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:59 PM   #11
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IMO, "[...]more horsepower, ... , while keeping the efficient gas mileage[...]" is code for "we kind of neutered FB25, but enjoy !".
It's time for FB18DIT already; it should easily be way more efficient than FB25 on the highway.
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Old 06-05-2020, 02:00 PM   #12
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So more orange trim and accents, then?
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Old 06-05-2020, 02:49 PM   #13
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IMO, "[...]more horsepower, ... , while keeping the efficient gas mileage[...]" is code for "we kind of neutered FB25, but enjoy !".
It's time for FB18DIT already; it should easily be way more efficient than FB25 on the highway.
That's code for "we have no idea why we developed the 2.0 when the 2.5 is just about as efficient."
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Old 06-05-2020, 03:34 PM   #14
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That's code for "we have no idea why we developed the 2.0 when the 2.5 is just about as efficient."
No. YOU have no idea why they made a 2.0. YOU will be able to see why when the 2.5 hits on it's monroney label.



Sooooo.........poll...........is that Crosstrek Sport green or gold?
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Old 06-05-2020, 03:45 PM   #15
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No. YOU have no idea why they made a 2.0. YOU will be able to see why when the 2.5 hits on it's monroney label.



Sooooo.........poll...........is that Crosstrek Sport green or gold?
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:41 PM   #16
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also, no manual with the 2.5L so F*** You Subaru; you can keep your CVT.
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Nothing says sport like a CVT transmission!
Booo!

Need a better word than Sport. Snooze? Snore? Suck?
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Old 06-05-2020, 06:04 PM   #17
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also, no manual with the 2.5L so F*** You Subaru; you can keep your CVT.
Is that confirmed or are we just assuming Subaru will be Subaru?
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Old 06-06-2020, 10:42 PM   #18
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No. YOU have no idea why they made a 2.0. YOU will be able to see why when the 2.5 hits on it's monroney label.



Sooooo.........poll...........is that Crosstrek Sport green or gold?
uh, there is 1 mpg difference between the impreza 2.0 and legacy 2.5 and the legacy is substantially heavier.
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Old 06-06-2020, 10:58 PM   #19
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I thought 2.0 is because of the liter tax on engines in Japan?
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Bingo! The taxes on 2.0+ and 3.0+ engines in Europe and Japan are larger.

Problem is Subaru engines get a smog tax also. So, Subaru is a hard sell in Europe. Unless they fix their whole injection system they may be pushed out of Europe. That may be where Toyota comes in. However, you are fighting some physics with Subaru boxer designs stuck within the frame rails.

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Old 06-07-2020, 09:50 AM   #21
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Is that confirmed or are we just assuming Subaru will be Subaru?
I think they're going to take advantage of X-Mode and the limited production they'll initially launch with, and if sales soar then a manual could be introduced. Now is definitely the time to keep things simple on the production side.
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Old 06-07-2020, 11:56 AM   #22
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also, no manual with the 2.5L so F*** You Subaru; you can keep your CVT.
Would the MT availability changed your mind about buying a 2.5L CrossTrek? I seriously doubt that.. even if it came with a 2.5L MT I have zero interest in these cars, so Subaru knowing this, I think made the correct move by just putting a CVT in there for the normal non-car folks to sell to.

I hear the Impreza's MT is one of the worst wobbly junk gearbox anyway.
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Old 06-07-2020, 09:18 PM   #24
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The Impreza still uses the 5 speed. Crosstrek is 6 speed. While no STi tranny, I've had no complaints about mine. 19 Crosstrek Premium 6MT. I would wonder what they'll charge if they go to 2.5L. The hybrid Crosstrek is a joke price wise for the added torque at low end. Starting at $35k? No thanks. I'll be happy to have the MT and seven grand in my pocket.
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:29 AM   #25
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Would the MT availability changed your mind about buying a 2.5L CrossTrek? I seriously doubt that.. even if it came with a 2.5L MT I have zero interest in these cars, so Subaru knowing this, I think made the correct move by just putting a CVT in there for the normal non-car folks to sell to.

I hear the Impreza's MT is one of the worst wobbly junk gearbox anyway.
My MIL was looking to replace her 5mt 08 Legacyl; she wanted more ground clearance, AWD & a stick - but the 2.0L was a dog even compared to her old NA EJ Legacy, the 2.5L meant she might continue to Subaru, not now though.
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