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Old 11-09-2013, 11:45 PM   #1
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Ok. Let's talk valve keepers.
Rebuilding my heads and going 1mm oversize.
Since I'm staying on stock cams, I figured I would stick with stock springs and retainers since there was only 46k miles on the engine.
However, when I disassembled the heads the keepers looked slightly deformed.
Other than BC the only other ones I see is Ferrea and theirs are for their valves and retainers.
Does anyone know of good forged ones?
I am also a little reluctant to use aftermarket keepers without changing retainers. And if I use the retainers and keepers I might as well get new springs.

I have searched, but haven't found many topics regarding the oem keepers.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:07 AM   #2
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Oem works fine.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:15 PM   #3
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New oem ones come in the gasket kit if your buying the full gasket set. I can look at work I may still have a buncha extra ones from when I just did mine since new ones came with my spring retainer kit and new ones in the gasket set. And the originals with like 80k on em. If I find em I can ship em to you for a few bucks
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:07 PM   #4
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Well if I will get them with my new gasket kit that is fine. I was just concerned the current ones are deformed after 46k miles. I guess this is normal? Do people use stock when they go to dual springs?
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Post pics of them. Ive never seen em "deformed".
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:40 PM   #6
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The dimple on the inside is supposed to be there if that's your concern.
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here is what I mean:

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They look normal. What do you think is a problem? Some slight pitting on the outside but its tough to tell if that's just camera grainy
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They look curved in toward the bottom
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I see what you're talking about and I understand your concern. Personally I would replace them if you have the new ones from your gasket set, but I would not spend time looking for a forged piece.

Can I ask why the keeping stock springs?
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Keeping stock cams. Probably going with Blouch 2.5. Why would I want to upgrade springs. Only 46k on these.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:04 PM   #13
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Also, if my stock springs does this, what would dual springs do?
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Also, if my stock springs does this, what would dual springs do?
If you were running dual spring or any aftermarket spring you should also run the recommended retainers and keepers

As for the stock keepers, they come in the master gasket kit because they're supposed to be replaced. I wouldn't install a new keeper that looked like that but I wouldn't be alarmed if a used one looked like that upon teardown.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:22 PM   #15
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I agree. makes sense they include them in the gasket kit.
While I have been looking none of the Supertech or GSC kits show they are included.
Only Ferrea and that is because they have their own design.
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