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06-19-2002, 07:30 AM | #1 |
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What do you all think about the COBB tuning kit?
I am thinking about getting the COBB tunning kit on my WRX. I am thinking the lower priced kit that gets you to around 260 HP or so.
Cost for all parts and instillation is $3600. Do you guys think it is worth it? I think if I got it I would ask for everything except for the cold air intake cause that seems a bit pointless to me. Otherwise I like the overall kit.
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06-19-2002, 08:09 AM | #2 |
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All of Cobb's kits are really nice, but very expensive in my opinion. There are cheaper ways to get the same power (Vishnu).
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06-19-2002, 09:06 AM | #3 | |
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its very nice, and very safe. I had the club spec kit for a good many miles, drag raced it, autocrossed it a bunch, drove it on the street hard, in texas heat, and its held up nicely. ran 13.4 in the 1/4 mile with. since then Ive added a bigger turbo and intercooler, 1/4 mile time dropped to 12.9 and its still going strong. |
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06-19-2002, 09:07 AM | #4 |
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Vishnu stage 0 $1095
Turbo back exhaust $1100 intercooler spray kit $140 Intercooler hoses $140 wire harness $90 install aprox 6-8 hrs $525 total $3100 the vishnu alone will get you 265HP then add the turbo back and intercooler hoses. Make sure Shiv tunes the unichip for the hoses and exhaust. my .02 |
06-19-2002, 10:49 AM | #5 |
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the cobb kit costs more as it replaces more expensive parts...i think a cobb club spec w/uppipe should get you around 230whp which is a little over 290 to the crank.
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06-19-2002, 11:52 AM | #6 | |
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06-19-2002, 02:20 PM | #7 |
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I included labor....forgot the dyno time though....he would still have $500 left over for that
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06-19-2002, 03:38 PM | #8 |
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Cobb sounds pretty good and safe.
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06-19-2002, 06:38 PM | #9 |
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with an MBC and underdrive pully be carefull or you will blow something up.
you have another vote for the cobb kit, its safer. and get yourself some new tires(now) |
06-19-2002, 06:42 PM | #10 |
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is that there dyno? that looks strangly like a 2 wheeler to me. could that be part of where there hp numbers are comming from. and is that what they use to tune the kit, there never putting my car on a 2 wheel dyno. Last edited by foxdeman; 06-19-2002 at 07:03 PM. |
06-19-2002, 08:04 PM | #11 |
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That is not Cobb's dyno. They have a Mustang AWD dyno.
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06-19-2002, 08:18 PM | #12 |
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Guys,
While acknowledging our obvious bias, I thought the price comparison on this thread was interesting. Our club spec System costs $2,600.00 currently in the U.S.A., plus installation and tuning. It will happily and reliably make 280 H.P. at the flywheel. The listed Vinshu parts add up to $2,565.00, plus install and tuning, for 265 H.P. Without even entering into the quality discussion, where is the big issue? Dave APS |
06-19-2002, 08:48 PM | #13 |
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Sorry if I'm getting into this late. But here goes...
The Stage Zero, properly installed, brings an otherwise stock WRX, to an est. 270-275hp. Priced at $1095 plus install. Adding an axle back muffler will improve hp by an additional 7-8hp. This is priced at $350-600 plus install. Such a package would yield approx. 280hp and has proven to be quite safe and happy on both the street and on the road course. I see no reason to bring the issue of component quality into the discussion as the kits share no parts in common other than the Unichip. The Club Spec doesn't include an up-pipe and our kit doesn't include a turbo-back exhaust. Different approaches/solutions to the same problem. Just my 2c, Shiv Last edited by Vishnu Performance; 06-19-2002 at 09:48 PM. |
06-19-2002, 09:05 PM | #14 | |
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The 265HP claim is for the stage0 kit alone which makes 265hp. both are viable options, imo |
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06-19-2002, 10:46 PM | #15 | ||
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I was recently asked (in another forum on i-club) why I chose the Cobb Kit over the other available kits on the market. Hopefully, the question and answer below will give you some more insight...
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06-19-2002, 11:14 PM | #16 |
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Just to add to this discussion, my Stage 0 made 228.6wheel hp and 233ft/lbs torque. Not bad for a $1K. I have no idea what Cobb/APS kit produces to the wheels, but its gotta be arround the same. As for quality, I know Cobb's stuff is good, but Vishnu's is just as good if not better IMHO.
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06-20-2002, 08:11 AM | #17 |
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Where are the Vishnu shops located?
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06-20-2002, 08:53 AM | #18 |
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Is reliability really an issue with Vishnu? I'm certain I've read posts from people who have been running stage 0 for thousands of miles without any problems. Why would Cobb be considered "safer" or more reliable for the long term? Spark plugs? Pulleys? Come on. I am currently deciding between these two tuners, but was heavily leaning towards Vishnu. I originally intended on going with the Club Spec kit from Cobb, but after everything I've read about Stage 0 and other performance mods (as well as service and knowledge) from Vishnu, I've been swayed. But obviously if there are long term concerns about reliability or replacement parts, then I need to rethink. I find that doubtful considering all the praise I've heard about Vishnu.
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06-20-2002, 08:54 AM | #19 |
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Club Spec here
I've had the Club Spec since October of last year. The Vishnu Kit wasn't out at that time, and the Club Spec offered the solution I was looking for. I'd gone through the do-it-yourself mods on a prior car, wiring in boost controllers, et al. The Club Spec, using tried and true APS components, provided the safety and reliability I was looking for. To me, the price was very good considering it included installation, and dyno-tuning. My numbers don't seem to match those of danbest (222hp,220 lb/ft), but that's Subaru ecus for you. Still I've had no problems except for the cel for cat inefficiency, but Cobb is waiting for a manufacturer to complete the production of the fix for that problem.
I've made one mode to the car since then. I replaced the stock connector (between the "T" off the turbo, and the boost controller), going to a 3/16 x 1/4 connector. The result is the turbo spools a lot sooner, and makes the driving experience that much more enjoyable. It remains to be seen how the ecu will ruin my fun. D |
06-20-2002, 09:18 AM | #20 | |
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Re: Club Spec here
the ECU isn't going to ruin your fun.
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06-20-2002, 11:31 AM | #21 | |
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I think you made a fine decision in what system to go with. However, I just wanted to add my 2c regarding the parts availability comments. Cheers, Shiv |
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06-20-2002, 11:48 AM | #22 | |
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06-20-2002, 07:12 PM | #23 |
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I hope when you are comparing power numbers they are all at least from the same make/model dyno, if not actually the same unit. As has been widely discussed elsewhere, anything else is meaningless. Also, you guys need to keep in mind the boost figure used at peak power to achieve any given figure. At the risk of stating the obvious, you want the best power at the lowest possible boost figure.
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06-20-2002, 07:45 PM | #24 | |
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06-20-2002, 08:00 PM | #25 | |
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