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Old 01-04-2009, 03:58 PM   #26
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spoken like a guy who wasted his money coating his headers. how about we both go for a beat run. you touch your coated downpipe and i'll touch my wrapped downpipe. my hand will be fine so i can drive you to the burn center.
My dp is wrapped and my header and uppipe are coated. I can touch both after running. Im not trying to get more hp from having it on, just trying to keep other things from burning up. I have noticed my egt's are a couple hundred degrees higher with the coated pipes from the no coated ones. So yes they are working.
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Old 01-04-2009, 04:02 PM   #27
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My dp is wrapped and my header and uppipe are coated. I can touch both after running. Im not trying to get more hp from having it on, just trying to keep other things from burning up. I have noticed my egt's are a couple hundred degrees higher with the coated pipes from the no coated ones. So yes they are working.
who coated the headers? i have burned my knuckles on my headers after running the car for 45 seconds to get it on ramps to change the oil.
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Old 01-04-2009, 04:45 PM   #28
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My dp is wrapped and my header and uppipe are coated. I can touch both after running. Im not trying to get more hp from having it on, just trying to keep other things from burning up. I have noticed my egt's are a couple hundred degrees higher with the coated pipes from the no coated ones. So yes they are working.
sameeeee before i wrapped them

n2oiroc-sounds like your coating is low quality

company and quality really is important with CC especially if coating the insides of headers/UP

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Old 01-04-2009, 04:52 PM   #29
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I prefer wrap over ceramic coat. my wrap is also doing very well seeing as it isn't coated with any silicone sealant (didnt have time, oops) i have to re-do it all in the spring, for the EWG dumptube so i plan on re-wrapping it again, lol.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:11 PM   #30
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sameeeee before i wrapped them

n2oiroc-sounds like your coating is low quality

company and quality really is important with CC especially if coating the insides of headers/UP

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mine could have been bad, but i have also worked on cars with jet hot sterling. either way, keep your hands away unless you want some nasty burns!
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:20 PM   #31
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To tell you the truth, before i wrapped them, i could drive around like a daemon and then pull into my garage and by the time i jacked up my car the headers would barely be warm to the touch. This was on like a 50 degree day but still...
again...i don't have problems.....
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:27 PM   #32
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i would love to see a vid of you guys touching your headers or downpipes with the car running.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:48 PM   #33
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okay i'll post one up as soon as i get my car put back together. JUST FOR YOU N2oiroc!!!!



hottness and time well spent. CC'd and thermo tec heat wrapped and copper sprayed FTW

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Old 01-04-2009, 05:58 PM   #34
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...JUST FOR YOU N2oiroc!!!!...
Oh no, I'll be watching that too. FWIW, I wrapped the crap out of my headers and with the car running I've seen them glow on the dyno. We're talking hospital time.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:59 PM   #35
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okay i'll post one up as soon as i get my car put back together. JUST FOR YOU N2oiroc!!!!



hottness and time well spent. CC'd and thermo tec heat wrapped and copper sprayed FTW

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thats cheating! lol! im talking coated only. i know you can do it with wrap (idle only of course!) but not ceramic only.

p.s. i have the same headers. 3 bolt flanges suck to install!
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:05 PM   #36
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lol the trick is to deal with the bitch as a whole by attaching the UP to the headers and then wiggleing the fatty in to place.... i know they suck to install, actually kaldar142 and i totally didn't even put in on of the UP->header bolts (the one thats in the rear that is impossible to get at unless its all out of the car) cuz we forgot about it or something rather (like 8 months ago) and i dind't notice it until i took it out of the car about 3 weeks ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN8FK9dVq9o
i knew i had a damn leak somewhere

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Old 01-04-2009, 06:11 PM   #37
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lol the trick is to deal with the bitch as a whole by attaching the UP to the headers and then wiggleing the fatty in to place.... i know they suck to install, actually kaldar142 and i totally didn't even put in on of the UP->header bolts (the one thats in the rear that is impossible to get at unless its all out of the car) cuz we forgot about it or something rather (like 8 months ago) and i dind't notice it until i took it out of the car about 3 weeks ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN8FK9dVq9o
i knew i had a damn leak somewhere

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maybe the wrx has more subframe room than the sti? im almost positive that i would have to unbolt the motor mounts and jack the motor up to get the flange between the subframe and head. as it is, its a pain to wiggle and twist the uppipe into place.
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:16 PM   #38
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lol dono we'll find out in a few days when my uppipe comes back from kelly at covertperformance

i actually had to sawzaw some of my sub... LOL just like a small 3/4" x like almost a foot off the lip cuz my headers would NOT fit up into place that was working with Kaldar142 when he was still geared towards his getto working of 240's lol but w.e. works and makes it easier and no one can see it anyway

okay enough off topic hijack sorry OP

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DO BOTH!!! if not because i recommend it then because Unabomber does!!!! hes very well respected moderator around here and do it because with a little time put in yours can look as sexy as my GTspec V2's and n2oiroc's as soon as i convince him (her??) of its worth unless they're too afraid that their coating will flake off in the tubeing...you should deff call that company that coated it and find out more info on it because like that other thread i posted up stated, alot of these coatings are made to turn to powder incase they do flake, that way they don't destroy your turbo...

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Old 01-04-2009, 06:23 PM   #39
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lol dono we'll find out in a few days when my uppipe comes back from kelly at covertperformance

i actually had to sawzaw some of my sub... LOL just like a small 3/4" x like almost a foot off the lip cuz my headers would NOT fit up into place that was working with Kaldar142 when he was still geared towards his getto working of 240's lol but w.e. works and makes it easier and no one can see it anyway

okay enough off topic hijack sorry OP

DO BOTH!!! if not because i recommend it then because Unabomber does!!!! hes very well respected moderator around here and do it because with a little time put in yours can look as sexy as my GTspec V2's and n2oiroc's as soon as i convince him (her??) of its worth unless they're too afraid that their coating will flake off in the tubeing...you should deff call that company that coated it and find out more info on it because like that other thread i posted up stated, alot of these coatings are made to turn to powder incase they do flake, that way they don't destroy your turbo...

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mine are coated outside only. good thing, because it is coming off!

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Also OP (and N2oiroc) , incase you were wondering :
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1650757&page=2
^^thread that helps you figure out how much wrap you need. GTspec V2's + UP (and im hopeing to get my dump tube to) i used a solid 1"x50' and 2"x 50' copper gen.2 thermo tec heat wrap and one can of copper spray [/plug]

JSCspeed is where i got mine, great prices (i got xtra special prices cuz of black friday sale) the cheapest i could find anyway on thermo tec and they are great vendors

go for it!

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mine are coated outside only. good thing, because it is coming off!
thats a bummer, who's coating? so i know to steer people far away from them lol
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:28 PM   #42
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lol dono we'll find out in a few days when my uppipe comes back from kelly at covertperformance

i actually had to sawzaw some of my sub... LOL just like a small 3/4" x like almost a foot off the lip cuz my headers would NOT fit up into place that was working with Kaldar142 when he was still geared towards his getto working of 240's lol but w.e. works and makes it easier and no one can see it anyway

okay enough off topic hijack sorry OP

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DO BOTH!!! if not because i recommend it then because Unabomber does!!!! hes very well respected moderator around here and do it because with a little time put in yours can look as sexy as my GTspec V2's and n2oiroc's as soon as i convince him (her??) of its worth unless they're too afraid that their coating will flake off in the tubeing...you should deff call that company that coated it and find out more info on it because like that other thread i posted up stated, alot of these coatings are made to turn to powder incase they do flake, that way they don't destroy your turbo...

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just the downpipe so all i have to worry about destroying is the cat .. i talked to them and they said it shouldn't cause a problem to run the wrap over the coating
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:31 PM   #43
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thats a bummer, who's coating? so i know to steer people far away from them lol
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http://www.classiccoatings.com/ceramic.html#satin

i ordered the satin 2,000 degree coating, but they may have accidentally did the semi gloss black which is rated for a lot less than 2,000 degrees. they did offer to redo them, i told them to suck my ass. im not taking them back off and sending them in to have it happen again. the coating started to discolor within 20 minutes of running.
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Also OP (and N2oiroc) , incase you were wondering :
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1650757&page=2
^^thread that helps you figure out how much wrap you need. GTspec V2's + UP (and im hopeing to get my dump tube to) i used a solid 1"x50' and 2"x 50' copper gen.2 thermo tec heat wrap and one can of copper spray [/plug]

JSCspeed is where i got mine, great prices (i got xtra special prices cuz of black friday sale) the cheapest i could find anyway on thermo tec and they are great vendors

go for it!

-GL

thanks .. but i took the easy way out http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/ex...calculator.php
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anyone know where to get something like this but cheaper? http://www.slowboyracing.com/sbs/sbr...&cat=10&page=1
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http://www.classiccoatings.com/ceramic.html#satin

i ordered the satin 2,000 degree coating, but they may have accidentally did the semi gloss black which is rated for a lot less than 2,000 degrees. they did offer to redo them, i told them to suck my ass. im not taking them back off and sending them in to have it happen again. the coating started to discolor within 20 minutes of running.
damn, if they aren't far from you you should drive over there and tell them to check out what a bitch it is to remove and replace them and tell them that if they really wanna back their mistake they should have their mechanics or pay mechanics to do it for you either that or refund your money in full!

i would demand it. say that had you gotten the insides coated your turbo would be ruined from their mistake and that even so, you didn't get anything close to what you wanted.

get your money back homie
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damn, if they aren't far from you you should drive over there and tell them to check out what a bitch it is to remove and replace them and tell them that if they really wanna back their mistake they should have their mechanics or pay mechanics to do it for you either that or refund your money in full!

i would demand it. say that had you gotten the insides coated your turbo would be ruined from their mistake and that even so, you didn't get anything close to what you wanted.

get your money back homie
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i tried getting my money back with no luck. i have the turbo off, so its not all that much work to pull them. i might call them up again and see if they will cover shipping both ways.
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anyone know where to get something like this but cheaper? http://www.slowboyracing.com/sbs/sbr...&cat=10&page=1
I take it you have APS headers then??

and to answer your question
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http://www.jscspeed.com/universal/th...eader_wrap.htm

im sure slow boy makes dank products but like, think about it, thermotec thats all they do!!!! thats their specialty... thats their name!!!


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I take it you have APS headers then??

and to answer your question
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http://www.jscspeed.com/universal/th...eader_wrap.htm

im sure slow boy makes dank products but like, think about it, thermotec thats all they do!!!! thats their specialty, shoot thats their name!!!


-GL
i have maddad headers. i might wrap them, but i would prefer something like the aps shields. it looks a lot easier and i like that its covered in aluminum so oil cant wick into it.
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i tried getting my money back with no luck. i have the turbo off, so its not all that much work to pull them. i might call them up again and see if they will cover shipping both ways.
make them do it. tell them they have to. just complain alot about how much labor it is to get them in and out be like "excuse me sir, have you ever taken GTspec headers and UP off of a Subaru wrx impreza??????....oh, no??? well LET ME TELL YOU!!!!" lol


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i have maddad headers. i might wrap them, but i would prefer something like the aps shields. it looks a lot easier and i like that its covered in aluminum so oil cant wick into it.
Wrapping does take some work but like, IMO its worth it and its cheaper for some work...

though thinking about it, i feel like the insulation with some air (since it doesn't look like from that pic that the slowboy wrap wraps real tight like mine does) trapped in would probably work better. kinda along the principal lines of how a down jacket works over a regular jacket...??maybe

[oil wicking]-> i mean what are you afraid of a fire???

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