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Old 04-15-2020, 07:54 AM   #1
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General Motors today has confirmed that the ultra high-performance variants of Cadillac V-Series sedans will wear the Blackwing name. The upcoming, track-capable models will be called CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing. As Avanti reported back July 2019 (u guys awakeLol).

GM’s luxury arm added that the CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing will represent the “apex of Cadillac performance and driver engagement.”

“The Blackwing name has come to represent the very best of Cadillac performance engineering, craftsmanship and technology,” said Brandon Vivian, Cadillac executive chief engineer. “The new CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing build on the brand’s respected legacy of ultimate-performance driving experiences and elevate them even further.”

Cadillac also added that the upcoming V-Series Blackwing models will feature specially tuned chassis, vehicle control technologies and engines. As we also reported previously, the CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing will also be offered with a manual transmission – a feature most luxury brands no longer offer, but one that continues to be desired by many performance driving enthusiasts.

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What’s more, both next-level V-Series sedans have been undergoing testing on public roads as well as sessions at tracks and road courses around the country. Cadillac says that each car set lap times that were seconds faster at Virginia International Raceway than the ATS-V and CTS-V, which the CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing will indirectly replace.



No other details were provided about either V-Series vehicle. However, GM Authority previously reported that, despite using the Blackwing name, neither the CT4-V Blackwing nor the CT5-V Blackwing will use the Cadillac-exclusive twin-turbo 4.2L V8 DOHC Blackwing LTA engine, which will no longer be utilized in any vehicle following the discontinuation of the CT6-V in February 2020.

Instead, GM Authority has learned from sources familiar with the project that each model will utilize a massaged version of the high-performance gasoline engines previously used in the ATS-V and CTS-V. In the case of the CT4-V Blackwing, that engine will be a twin-turbocharged 3.6L V6 LF4 that was rated at 464 horsepower and 445 pound-feet of torque in the ATS-V. Meanwhile, the CT5-V Blackwing will feature the supercharged 6.2L V8 LT4 engine that was rated at 640 horsepower and 630 pound-feet of torque in the third-generation CTS-V.

Like many other GM products, the Cadillac CT4-V and CT5-V’s market launch has been delayed due to the ongoing COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic. The two sedans will go on sale sometime in the first half of 2021, or roughly six months later than initially planned.
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Old 04-15-2020, 07:54 AM   #2
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So strange they call it a Blackwing when it doesn't have a Blackwing engine. Still it appears they will be solid vehicles at the price point.
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Old 04-15-2020, 03:51 PM   #4
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Old 04-15-2020, 06:39 PM   #5
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When will they realize none of this naming, renaming, rerenaming does nothing good and only causes confusion. The problem lies in the brand image and in the fact they are still focusing everything on cars and not on SUVs.
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:14 AM   #6
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Anyone out there looking for that magic combination of luxury and neck-snapping speed should look no further than the upcoming 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, which is headed our way with the good stuff needed to eclipse the 200-mph mark in the top end.

Although a full, official spec list on the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing has yet to be revealed, we already know that the new super sedan will have the muscle needed to top 200 mph thanks to a small Easter egg spotted on a teaser image showing off the model’s steering wheel. In addition to leather upholstery, cut-and-sewn stitching, a red stripe at the 12 o’clock position, carbon fiber trim, and a V-Series emblem, the steering wheel teaser also shows a small inscription, which, properly decoded, reads as “>322,” or greater than 322. This is, of course, a reference to greater than 322 km/h, or 200 mph.

Making that impressive performance possible will be a supercharged 6.2L V8 engine similar to the gas-powered LT4 unit equipped in the third-generation Cadillac CTS-V. As a reminder, the CTS-V produced 640 horsepower and 630 pound-feet of torque.

Additionally, Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing buyers will have the option to route all that muscle through either a six-speed manual transmission, or a 10-speed automatic. Further upgrades over the standard CT5 lineup will include a more aggressive aero treatment, wider wheels and tires, sharper suspension tuning, and larger brakes.

We also know that the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing will offer magnesium wheels and carbon fiber racing seats, the latter of which will feature heating and venting capability, as Cadillac Society exclusively covered previously.

The new 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing will be available next summer, at which time it will be joined by its slightly smaller sibling, the Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing.
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So strange they call it a Blackwing when it doesn't have a Blackwing engine. Still it appears they will be solid vehicles at the price point.
I agree, its just a cts-v isnt it? At least both Blackwing models will be available with a MT. Im intrigued a bit with the CT4 BW but the depreciation must be horrendous on these, no? Add bad depreciation to the ridiculous tax and lic in California and i just can't believe this State sells any cars at all. $8k just for the privilege to buy an RS3 or similarly priced car is what's kept me in my 2015 wrx for 6 years now.

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The Cadillac CT4 has always had a strange place amongst its competitors. The Cadillac ATS was positioned as a more budget friendly BMW 3 series competitor, but the CT4 was introduced in 2019 with a lower base price to compete against the entry level subcompact sedan class instead. Therefore, the CT4 is slightly larger than the rest of the subcompact luxury sedan class, and is the only one to ride on a rear-drive platform. But now, Cadillac have revealed the top of the line model in the CT4 range, the 2022 CT4-V Blackwing, and performance and pricing has it set to compete right where it has always belonged: the BMW M3.

Preorders are now open for the new Cadillac sports sedan, but when it goes on sale this summer, it’ll list for $59,990 before options. This puts it exactly $10,000 less than the non-Competition spec BMW M3, which is the Cadillac’s closest competitor on paper. The 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing pushes out 472 hp from its 3.6 liter twin turbo V6 compared to the M3’s 473 hp inline six. Both are also rear wheel drive only, and offered with a manual transmission. If the new Blackwing is as good as the ATS-V, there’s a good chance it could beat the base level M3 in more than just value.

The CT4-V Blackwing gets numerous upgrades over the regular CT4-V. Styling is beefed up with more aggressive bumpers and fenders, aero components and lots of optional carbon fiber. The handling is aided by a standard rear electronic differential, MagnaRide 4.0 dampers, Brembo brakes, stiffened chassis components and sticky Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. That twin turbo V6 and Tremec manual combination should only add to the engaging driving experience.

But because Cadillac is positioning the CT4-V Blackwing pricing as a less expensive alternative to the compact sedan pack, its stats suffer in comparison to some competitors. The BMW M3 Competition, Mercedes C63 AMG S and Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio all produce more than 500 hp, but cost over $70,000 before options. That being said, the old ATS-V started at $68,790 in 2019 when it went out of production, around $9,000 more than the CT4-V Blackwing, and produced slightly less power, at 464 hp.

The Cadillac then is cheaper and less slightly powerful than some of its compact sports sedan competition, but more expensive and powerful than the subcompact sports sedan segment, which includes the mid-$50,000 Audi RS3 and Mercedes CLA 45 AMG. These vehicles are front drive based, however, and don’t offer a manual transmission, unlike the CT4-V Blackwing. This should make the Blackwing a far superior driving experience than the subcompact class, and it’s priced only slightly above them.

This leaves the 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing in between two classes of vehicle, pushing driving dynamics and hp to beat out the one under it, and adding a value component to beat the class above, including its own predecessor. It’s an interesting strategy from Cadillac, and we can’t wait to see how it plays out.
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With the debut of the 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing models, Cadillac has potentially just rolled out their two greatest attempts in the sports sedan segment yet. And while the V8-powered range-topper is sure to get the most love, the CT4-V Blackwing isnt just your average sedan. Here is everything you need to know about the new 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing engine and transmission options.

As our readers might know, MC&T was the first to confirm that the 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing is powered by the same 3.6L twin-turbo V6 as the outgoing ATS-V. The familiar turbocharged engine produces 472 horsepower and 445 lb-ft torque in CT4-V Blackwing spec, however. In order to boost the engine output for the Blackwing, Cadillac made some performance-minded adjustments to the motor.

These include the installation of a manifold-integrated water-to-air charge cooling system, retargeted piston oil squirters, and revised crankshaft counterweights that reduce main/rod bearing reciprocating loads. Furthermore, Cadillac has matched the turbocharger compressors for peak efficiency at peak power, which is a desirable trait on track.

Engine airflow has been adjusted for peak performance, with intake restriction improved by 39 percent over the ATS-V. Airflow routing volume has also been reduced by 60 percent when compared to a conventional design.



With just under 500 horsepower on tap, Cadillac says that the CT4-V Blackwing will be capable of reaching a top speed of 189 mph. Furthermore, the automaker estimates a 0-60 sprint time of just 3.8 seconds for automatic-equipped models. For comparison, the 668 horsepower CT5-V Blackwing takes just 3.7 seconds to go from 0-60 mph. Not a bad time then for the baby Blackwing.

A six-speed Tremec manual transmission is standard on the CT4-V Blackwing, which is a welcome sight in todays DCT obsessed market. A LuK twin-disc clutch should bring great pedal feel, and should have no issues with the 445 lb-ft of torque coming from the CT4-V Blackwings engine. Cadillac is also hopeful that their new physical barrier stop for the clutch pedal will provide drivers with a better feel than a traditional hydraulic master cylinder. Speaking of pedals, GM has gone out of their way to ensure that this cars pedal box is well suited for heel-and-toe downshifting on track. Should your skills be a little rusty, active rev-matching is available via a dash-mounted toggle switch. Like its bigger brother, the 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing transmission allows for no-lift shifting. Cadillac has even programmed the engine to keep the turbos spooled up in between shifts, which should help shave down lap times. In order to ensure the gearbox in responsive lap after lap, the car also comes with upgraded transmission and rear differential cooling. The shifter throw is also shorter than it was on the outgoing ATS-V.

Cadillac will also be offering a 10-speed automatic transmission for the anti-manual folks. The gearbox provides more ratios than any other sedan in the segment, which should help to keep the twin-turbo V6 pushing out peak power. The driver will be able to shift the gearbox manually via a pair of magnesium shift paddles, though the gearbox features its own performance shift mapping as well. In Sport Mode, the gearbox will automatically adjust to reduce shift busyness and improve performance. Furthermore, Dynamic Performance Mode is calibrated to deliver track-focused shift patterns, and will automatically activate when high g-forces are detected in either Sport or Track mode.

Cadillac utilized 24 hour track testing to ensure that the transmission can take a beating, resulting in a unique oil pan design and priority valve changes. An auxiliary pump has also been installed to help the gearbox shift better upon startup. It is worth noting that automatic-equipped cars will miss out on titanium connecting rods found on the manual variants.

Reservations for the 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing open up tonight via Cadillacs Reserve Yours page. While it isn;t nearly as expensive its LT4 V8-powered sibling, the CT4-V Blackwing still carries and MSRP of at $59,990. Cadillac says that delivers of the two sports sedans are expected to begin in late summer 2021.
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Good to hear they are keeping the manual. The manual is to maintain brand image, not to make money.
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At long last, the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is here with a 668 hp 6.2 liter V8, manual transmission, trick aero and more, but its biggest selling point might just be pricing. And while that’s not typically a defining characteristic of the most powerful vehicle Cadillac have ever made, let alone any performance luxury sedan, it’s yet another stat that sets the new Caddy apart from the German competition.


When the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing goes on sale this summer, it’ll carry a base price of $84,990. Again, this might not seem like a budget conscious buyer’s vehicle of choice, but if you just made it big on GameStop, the CT5-V Blackwing price is a compelling option, especially when compared to the competition. Plus, the Blackwing costs $4,300 less than the outgoing CTS-V did in its last year of production, 2019.

The main rivals, the BMW M5, Mercedes E63 AMG and Audi RS7, all carry a base price that begins in six digit territory, with the RS7 most expensive at a massive $114,000. That’s just under $30,000 more expensive, yet the RS7 pumps out a measly 591 hp. The BMW M5 is the most powerful of the European trio, with 617 hp in Competition trim. It’s worth noting, however, that we only know the base price of the CT5-V Blackwing, and with the many options and packages ticked, the price could more closely match the German competitors.

The Cadillac is also the only vehicle in its class to offer a manual transmission, already positioning itself as the driver’s choice. Coupled with standard Magneride 4.0 dampers, sticky Michelin pilot Sport 4S tires, a stiffened chassis, Brembo steel or carbon ceramic brakes, optional carbon fiber aero components and that massive V8, the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing will likely be the most engaging super sedan on the market.



Another interesting comparison for Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing pricing is the class below. For around $15,000, you could upgrade from a BMW M3 to get a supercharged V8 with an extra 165 hp. And of course, you’d avoid having to be seen by real life humans with that grille.

But if Germany’s best can’t match the CT5-V Blackwing on paper, America’s can. The Dodge Charger Hellcat and Hellcat Redeye are more of a muscle car than the Cadillac, which calls itself a sports sedan, but there’s no arguing the Charger brings a better cost to hp ratio. Still, these two interpretations of the American performance sedan end in a similar place even if they get there in completely different ways.

The 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing isn’t cheap, and the average consumer could only dream of affording one. But for those that can, it beats out the competition in terms of price and performance, and we’re willing to bet it’ll put up quite the fight when these super sedans are inevitably compared from behind the wheel.
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Just like that, the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing has debuted as the fastest, most powerful and most track-oriented Cadillac model ever. The automaker says that this new take on an American sports sedan was designed with driver engagement and performance front of mind, as they prepare to once again try and beat the Germans at their own game. Like with any proper enthusiast machine, this focus begins with building a killer powertrain. Here is everything you need to know about the 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing engine and transmission combinations, starting with its super-powerful LT4 V8.

Long-time readers of MC&T may recall that we were the first to confirm that the CT5-V Blackwing would arrive with the same 6.2L supercharged LT4 V8 as the outgoing CTS-V. And while this is true, Cadillac has evolved the powertrain for this new sedan. In CT5-V Blackwing spec, the LT4 V8 now produces 668 horsepower and 659 lb-ft of torque. This is thanks to a number of tweaks, which include a higher flow air-intake, titanium intake valves, and a revised exhaust system. That upgraded intake now allows some 46 percent more airflow through than the one found on the CTS-V.

Furthermore, Rotocast A356T6 aluminum cylinder heads replace the standard units, due to their increased strength and heat resistance. A ready wet-sump oiling and vent system have also been installed, complete with an external oil separator and drain-back. Boost is provided by a 1.7L four-lobe Eaton supercharger, which now features small-diameter rotors that enable boost to be generated earlier in the power band.

Thanks to that near-700 horsepower output, General Motors says that the 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing and its LT4 V8 will be able to top out at over 200 mph. With the automatic transmission equipped, Cadillac estimates a 0-60 mph time of just 3.7 seconds. That is the benefit of using a hand-built engine from Bowling Green, we suspect.

Speaking of the automatic transmission, the 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is slated to be offered with two gearbox options. A six-speed Tremec manual transmission is the standard option, a rare sight in today’s sport sedan segment. This transmission may be old-school, but it is not low-tech by any means. A LuK twin-disc clutch should bring great pedal feel, as well as the toughness needed to hold over 650 lb-ft of torque. A physical barrier stop for the clutch pedal is also in place instead of a hydraulic master cylinder stop, which Cadillac hopes will bring better feedback for the driver. The pedal box has been specifically laid out for heel-toe downshifts, with active rev-matching available via a dash-mounted toggle switch. For optimal lap times, Cadillac has also integrated a no-lift-shift mapping into the gearbox, as well as a shorter shift throw than before. In order to ensure the gearbox in responsive lap after lap, the car also comes with upgraded transmission and rear differential cooling.

For those unwilling to row their own gears, Cadillac will also be offering a 10-speed automatic transmission. The optional gearbox provides more forward ratios than any other sedan in the segment, which should help to keep the V8 in its peak power band. The driver will be able to shift the gearbox manually via a pair of magnesium shift paddles, though the gearbox features its own performance shift mapping as well. In Sport Mode for instance, the gearbox will automatically adjust to reduce shift busyness and improve performance.
Furthermore, Dynamic Performance Mode is calibrated to deliver track-focused shift patterns, and will automatically activate when high g-forces are detected in either Sport or Track mode. The car also underwent 24 hours of track testing to ensure that the transmission is up to task, resulting in a unique oil pan design and priority valve changes. The automaker has installed an auxiliary pump to help the gearbox shift better when cold upon startup, as well.

Reservations for the 2022 CT5-V Blackwing open up tonight on the automaker’s homepage, with deliveries expected to take place later this summer. All of this track-focused powertrain equipment doesn’t come cheap however, as the sports sedan carries an MSRP of $84,990. That said, this might just be the greatest Cadillac of the modern era.
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The 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing achieve an artful balance between form and function.

Descended from the brand’s racing-derived V-Series legacy, the design elements of the new V-Series Blackwing sedans support and complement their track-capable performance, while advancing the V-Series’ motorsports-inspired heritage of styling and enhanced refinement.

“As the ultimate performance versions of our V-Series lineup, the prime directive for their designs was to maintain authenticity and integrity, while also raising the bar,” said Andrew Smith, executive director, Global Cadillac Design. “Everything new and unique on these vehicles was only included if it served a functional purpose, while simultaneously creating a powerful signature look.”

On the exteriors, wind-tunnel testing and extensive racetrack validation refined the designs to optimize the balance of form and function. On the inside, every unique V-Series Blackwing element, from the available carbon fiber-accented seats to track-specific layouts for the driver information center, was developed for its contribution to driver control.

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* Unique exterior elements, including detailed primary and secondary grilles, rear spoiler, front splitter, mid-body panels, rear diffuser, fender vents, rocker extensions and more
* Full LED exterior lighting
* “Underwing” underbody panels that support drag reduction and track capability
* Available, wind-tunnel-tested carbon fiber package that reduces lift on a track, compared to the standard aero package — including a 214 percent reduction in lift on the CT4-V Blackwing
* Brembo® brake calipers that are available in grey, blue, red and bronze
* Three levels of premium interiors (Base, Mid-level and Up-level), with unique trim, appointments and technologies, including standard wireless Apple CarPlay1 and Android Auto2 capability and wireless phone charging3. CT5-V Blackwing adds standard Surround Vision with recording, head-up display4 and more
* Available high-performance front seats, with up to 18-way adjustability, heat, ventilation and lumbar massage — and available carbon fiber-accented racing seats on the CT5-V Blackwing
* High-performance steering wheel with carbon fiber accents and magnesium shift paddles (with available 10-speed automatic transmission), as well as V-Mode and Performance Traction Management control (steering wheel standard on CT5-V Blackwing and available on CT4-V Blackwing) — including a serialized production number plate
* Unique manual transmission center console (with standard six-speed manual transmission), with carbon fiber accents and a shifter featuring a 3D-printed medallion cap
* Available sueded microfiber headliner and additional interior accents
* AKG premium audio system with 14 speakers (CT4-V Blackwing) or 15 speakers (CT5-V Blackwing)
* Configurable instrument cluster with a 12-inch-diagonal HD display that includes unique V-Series Blackwing graphics, and customizable performance settings such as a Track screen with performance timers for 0-60 mph, quarter-mile acceleration, lap timer and more
* Available second-generation Performance Data Recorder providing driver with improved recording capabilities and new levels of driving analysis










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2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing Has More Power Than an M5 and a 6-Speed Manual

It's got 668 hp and 659 lb-ft of torque, and it's the only 2022 sedan you can get with a V-8 and a stick shift.
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2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing First Look: A 668-HP Monster
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2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing First Look: So Long, ATS-V—Hello BMW M3
A worthy successor to the bygone ATS-V, the CT4-V Blackwing aims for the skies.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...t-look-review/
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Even though its latest models don't have the Blackwing V8.

When Cadillac revealed the CT4-V and CT5-V with way less power than the previous generation of Cadillac V models, the ATS-V and CTS-V, horsepower hungry fans weren't best pleased. But then Cadillac quickly announced that more powerful V models were on the way.

The 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing and 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing have finally broken cover, and just as the rumors predicted, neither car uses Cadillac's twin-turbocharged Blackwing engine.

During a call with Cadillac to discuss the new CT4-V and CT5-V variants, we asked why the company decided to use the Blackwing name even though that engine is now discontinued. "It was about simplification and elevation and focusing on one performance sub-brand, which is V Series," explained Brandon Vivian, Cadillac Executive Chief Engine.

"We had V-Sports in the past, but it was a little confusing of what V-Sport was versus V Series. Trying to grow both sub-brands simultaneously, we felt it was a better approach to simplify and focus on V Series, then elevate and expand," Vivian continued. "What you saw when we started on CT6-V, and also on CT4-V and CT5-V, we offer all-wheel-drive, which is now synonymous with V Series."

As for the new Blackwing models, those are only available with rear-wheel-drive. "We have a very strong guiding principle: if it doesn't make the car faster on a race track, we don't put it on the car," he told CarBuzz. "Everything that you see is 100% functional. AWD on the race track for these cars does not make them faster, so it's not offered on these Blackwing models. They are tailored to be track cars with everyday refinement."

"As for the Blackwing name itself, as we prepared to launch CT6-V, we've denoted Blackwing to mean the pinnacle of Cadillac performance and craftsmanship," Vivian made clear. "It's fitting to take that and carry it over to these vehicles. These cars really are this pinnacle, and you will be able to see that with the performance levels that these cars generate."

It may be different from what we've come to expect from Cadillac's V Series, but the Blackwing models do not disappoint in terms of performance. The CT4-V Blackwing produces 472 horsepower from a twin-turbo V6 while the CT5-V Blackwing generates a staggering 668 hp from a supercharged V8. Cadillac says the CT4-V Blackwing competes with the Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 and similar models while the CT5-V Blackwing is a BMW M3 rival with more power than an M5.
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This is the first time I've been interested in a Cadillac since the GEN2 CTSV. Impressive.
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Color me interested Cadillac again
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Old 02-02-2021, 02:52 PM   #20
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Maybe I missed it but what are the front suspension details on the CT4-V Blackwing? Strut or DWB?
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Old 02-02-2021, 03:45 PM   #21
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It got Struts
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Old 02-02-2021, 03:56 PM   #22
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With modern suspension design struts are roughly 95% as good as SLA suspensions. The Camaro 1LE, M cars, high line Mustangs, etc show that.
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Old 02-02-2021, 04:43 PM   #23
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Old 02-02-2021, 04:58 PM   #24
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Struts are fine. Porsche used them for a million years on the 911. These cars look aggressive. However, every recent Cadillac sedan I've looked at has felt surprisingly cheap.
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Old 02-02-2021, 06:02 PM   #25
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The interior is a lot better than last gen. Still it looks a bit too much Buick for this price.
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