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Old 08-08-2014, 10:15 AM   #1
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Talking BRZ for WRX question

Hi guys,

Have seen a number of threads with people swapping there '11 WRXs for BRZs and am just wondering... why?

Not trying to start a hate war by any means, but I've got a '12 Impreza (non-WRX) myself and have been wanting a WRX for pretty much... ever? Recently I've been contemplating trading it in for a '11 WRX (really dislike the looks of the new one) while a number of people I know got 86/brz. I've never actually driven a WRX (I know.. I know) but have driven an 86 and couldn't say that I particularly liked it.

So if you wouldn't mind - what is 1 or 2 top reasons on why you prefer your new BRZ over your old WRX (except the mileage).

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Old 08-08-2014, 10:51 AM   #2
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If you don't want a sports car don't buy one. Easy as that.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:04 PM   #3
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anybody trade their sti in for brz?
Any previous WRX owners?
Things the 14 wrx need from the brz
Just jumped ship from my 12 WRX to a BRZ!

Personally:
1) The handling in the BRZ stock is better than any aftermarket support that can be thrown at the pre-2015 WRX. Even the 2015 WRX doesn't handle as well as the BRZ technically and the BRZ is still more fun to drive.

2) I was done with turbocharged engines for a while and still am because I feel that NA from Subaru is more reliable and easier maintenance. I missed having an NA engine like my Impreza 2.5 RS coupe had (obviously no similar, but "like" in that it was NA).
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:07 PM   #4
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I love the handling, especially the drift fun at the track. AWD is great for the track, don't get me wrong, but I don't go for getting the best time around the loop. The BRZ is a purer type of car and I really enjoy driving it more than the 2011 STI I owned. Plus, at 26k I don't mind sliding off track as much, ha ha ha.

I miss the power of the STI, for sure! But the mileage and the suspension performance is worth it, for me. If I hadn't bought an STI, I would buy the STI over BRZ. It's a great daily driver that goes to the track without any effort. Love. It.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:15 AM   #5
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I had a fairly heavily modified '11 WRX, the BRZ was much more fun to drive straight from the dealership. I had them both for a few months and eventually sold the WRX because it just didn't compare to the BRZ for me. That said, I had wanted a WRX for 10 years before I got one and I thought I'd have it forever.

I've driven the '15 WRX and it is a much better car, in every way, to the previous models. I still much prefer my BRZ though.


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Old 08-10-2014, 06:02 PM   #6
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I had a fairly heavily modified '11 WRX, the BRZ was much more fun to drive straight from the dealership. I had them both for a few months and eventually sold the WRX because it just didn't compare to the BRZ for me. That said, I had wanted a WRX for 10 years before I got one and I thought I'd have it forever.

I've driven the '15 WRX and it is a much better car, in every way, to the previous models. I still much prefer my BRZ though.
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Same here. When I bought mine I thought I would keep it forever. I came from a stock Civic, and the WRX was a blast for the first year. Over the last year though, I've really started to notice handling deficiencies. It was either mod the WRX to keep it entertaining, or buy a new car.
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:58 PM   #7
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I put 9500 miles on the STI in 2 1/2 years .... 10,000 on the BRZ in a year
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:00 AM   #8
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Very interesting responses - thanks for your replies guys! Was genuinely interested in the reasons. I guess I should just test drive both, but that proves quite problematic with dealers unless one is prepared to 'exaggerate' how keen one is to buy one.
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:32 PM   #9
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Yeah I do hate that, makes me feel like a filthy liar. "Oh yes, I'm DEFINITELY going to buy this, but I just wanna take it for a test drive first." Then you're like, "Well I'm gonna walk away and come back tomorrow..." Then the next day, "I'm totally gonna buy this one too!"
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:16 AM   #10
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Loved my 04 WRX. It was quick and fun to drive. Now I have my 14 BRZ and honestly it's way more fun to drive. I'll take a slower car that handles better over something quicker that doesn't feel as tight. I had full coilovers and sway bars in my WRX and it did handle great but even the stock BRZ feels better. I can't wait to do suspension and see how it feels.
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Old 10-05-2014, 10:02 AM   #11
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I owned a bugeye, and have driven several other WRXes (and a couple STIs, including a heavily modded '11 making 400 whp... that car was stupid fast).

The 2009+ WRXes have lots of oomph. But the BRZ's steering, chassis, road feel, nimbleness, throttle response, shifter, ergonomics, seats, driver position, and brakes are superior (even compared to that heavily modded STI).

The BRZ doesn't have much grip or acceleration (by today's standards), but its lightweight RWD dynamics make it a blast to flog.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:40 AM   #12
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We still have our '05 WRX, and it will never go anywhere if we have any say in the matter… It more than earned its respect with the giant maple tree incident several years ago! BRZ is a totally different car, I could never compare the two. Which is why we added it as #3!
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:31 AM   #13
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I think after reading this, I'm going to go test drive one tomorrow. Leggy wagon might not be my baby for much longer!


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Old 11-08-2014, 01:48 PM   #14
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I still dont see why people would take a brz over a wrx. If you want a good na rwd sports car, there are PLENTY of cars that do it MUCH better than the brz (c5 z06, 350/370z, miata, m3, etc. For turbo awd, wrx/sti are at the top. Add in the practicality and 4 doors, and you cant beat it.
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Old 11-08-2014, 06:50 PM   #15
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I still dont see why people would take a brz over a wrx. If you want a good na rwd sports car, there are PLENTY of cars that do it MUCH better than the brz (c5 z06, 350/370z, miata, m3, etc. For turbo awd, wrx/sti are at the top. Add in the practicality and 4 doors, and you cant beat it.
Neat.

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Old 11-08-2014, 11:09 PM   #16
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I still dont see why people would take a brz over a wrx. If you want a good na rwd sports car, there are PLENTY of cars that do it MUCH better than the brz (c5 z06, 350/370z, miata, m3, etc. For turbo awd, wrx/sti are at the top. Add in the practicality and 4 doors, and you cant beat it.
The only one on that list that's close on price is the Miata but it is just so impractical as a dd. The BRZ isn't exactly a prime family hauler but it can transport things bigger than a coffee cup. Today my car was parked right behind a 2014 red Miata and I saw over a dozen people stop and take a picture of mine and not a single one took a pic of the Mazda
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:50 PM   #17
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Honestly it sounds like you want a WRX. I know the BRZ looks good and sounds nice on paper. But if you like AWD and think you want turbo power too, BRZ is 100% not going to cut it.

That is not even mentioning practicality.
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Old 11-09-2014, 02:19 PM   #18
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Get BRZ if you want a pure driver that can take 4 people in a pinch for short trips, the gas mileage, capable with kids but tougher, you don't get lots of snow and it's mostly you or you and a passenger in the car.

Get the WRX if you have kids, plan on driving with 4 people, have bad weather, need to haul things (wagon), want to mod for power, etc.

I could never trade my 04 wrx wagon because it is so versatile. I have had 6 ft blue spruce with a 100lb root ball in the back. Haul kids, bikes, a small fridge, 12 foot boat, kayak, surfboard and more. Blast in the snow for winter.

Could never do this with a BRZ. That said I may pick up a used one and add it to my WRX. The gas mileage and handling make it a great commuter. And it can still fit my kids when I pick them up from school. Asking I can mod after the warranty is gone, maybe a supercharger.
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Old 11-09-2014, 03:56 PM   #19
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I still dont see why people would take a brz over a wrx. If you want a good na rwd sports car, there are PLENTY of cars that do it MUCH better than the brz (c5 z06, 350/370z, miata, m3, etc. For turbo awd, wrx/sti are at the top. Add in the practicality and 4 doors, and you cant beat it.
WRX interior and seating position is worse than the BRZ (albiet improved over previous models but still not better) doesn't handle as well, eorse gas mileage and is butt ugly. If you have a family and poor weather and care more about power than anything else, get the WRX.

The Z06 and M3 would have to be used in god knows whst condition. Z06 has a horrid interior I don't want to spend a minute in, and the M3 will be an out-of warranty reliability nightmare.

Both Z cars are overweight, uncomfortable and ugly not to mention worse handling and gas mileage.

Miata is completely impractical as a primary car and has worse gas mileage (will probably change with the 2016).

The only car that does it "better" than the BRZ would be a Cayman and you didn't even list it. But of course that would have to be used as well.
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:30 PM   #20
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The question of a WRX vs. a BRZ is only asked by an idiot who has no idea what they want out of car.

So let me break this down for you, if you want a BRZ, buy one. If you want a WRX, buy one. If you can't figure out why someone might buy the BRZ over the WRX, buy the WRX.

You either get it or you don't and just because you don't get it doesn't make everyone else who does the idiot.
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:01 PM   #21
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You either get it or you don't and just because you don't get it doesn't make everyone else who does the idiot.
Or you could put it this way- Do you drive the car or guide the vehicle? If you drive you want the BRZ if you guide you want the WRX. If that's the case get in with the CVT
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:48 PM   #22
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Ive owned a BL LGT, 1994 Impreza L wagon, 2002 WRX and 2014 BRZ now. I bought the BRZ 11 months ago to replace my aging and expensive 135i, thinking that I would love having something lighter and simpler. I only lasted two months daily driving it before I got fed up and parked it. Eventually I settled on a fairly modded 2002 WRX that also sucks to daily drive. The BRZ was too harsh suspension wise after doing springs and shocks and way too low on torque to enjoy driving daily for me.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:55 PM   #23
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is there a delete feature? Guess you'll know if I found it if this is still here…

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Old 12-01-2014, 12:00 AM   #24
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Lifestyle was the decision. Had my 2009 wrx and sold it a few months ago. Every time I head to a meeting or work, I'm looked at as young teenager status respect although I'm a director. Especially meeting vendors, etc. Although awd is awesome, where I live, I drove it twice in the snow. Wrx in my opinion are always looked at to be driven only by teens.

So I sold it. Picked up my wife a 2015 Subaru legacy for our awd needs. Sold her Mazda 3 and picked myself up the brz.

I will say that the brz is much more fun to drive hands down. Would I go back to a wrx, maybe under certain circumstances but now, this fits me.

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Im in the tristate and i see too many WRXs now. I see like 10 wrx over 1 frs/brz. makes our 86's a rare gem :P
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