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Old 01-31-2019, 02:24 PM   #1
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So this week I got in an accident and my 2012 Impreza Sport was totaled. Currently waiting for the appraisal, but was looking to see what do you guys recommend for a used car? My budget depends on the appraisal, but I may be able to go as high as $12k.

My current thinking is finding a 2014/2015 Legacy as a replacement. Iím familiar with the FB engines and maintenance from my car. Wonít consider an Impreza again, and probably wouldnít consider a Crosstrek either (and these are most likely out of my price range).

I guess priorities would be good on gas, reliable, and AWD would be a plus. I guess I would prefer practicality and reliability over performance.

Looked at some used Volvoís online. Also saw some Audi A4ís, but not really sure I want to buy an Audi with 100k on it.

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Old 01-31-2019, 02:45 PM   #2
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Read this... I bet some of these will surprise you:

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...rs-under-10000

I wouldn't be awarding points to a Subaru just because you're "familiar with the maintenance". Maintenance on most cars is pretty much the same. If you can work on a Subaru, you can work on a honda, toyota, etc.
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Old 01-31-2019, 02:50 PM   #3
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The Legacy or a 16-17 Ford Fusion AWD.
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Out of curiosity, any reason you're not looking to get back into another Impreza Sport?
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:03 PM   #5
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Volvos from the last couple decades are going to be maintenance hogs after ~80,000 miles.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:36 PM   #6
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Out of curiosity, any reason you're not looking to get back into another Impreza Sport?


In short, the engine in the Impreza is pathetic. And, the cost of a used Legacy seems to be about the same as an Impreza.

Iíll miss having a 5 door, but not enough to justify getting another.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:53 PM   #7
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Best used car under 12k is going to be the Nissan Leaf (assuming you don't have a horrendous commute)


Now, best Subie in that range? That's a different question.
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Old 01-31-2019, 05:20 PM   #8
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Best used car under 12k is going to be the Nissan Leaf (assuming you don't have a horrendous commute)


Now, best Subie in that range? That's a different question.


Donít think the leaf would be for me. Ideally would want a ďfamilyĒ car for the future.

Iím leaning towards a Subaru just for familiarity. Really only the forester and legacy that I can see in my range, and would prefer the Legacy I guess.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:28 AM   #9
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Don't like GTI's? Can still have a 5 door with 24 cubic feet of storage. Turbo, 6 speed manual (or not), quick as a modern WRX, and very nice interior. Nicer than any Subaru by far. I've owned several myself. Plus at 12k, you're likely looking at the MK6 generation, which are German built unlike the current MK7's. My last MK6 had zero mechanical issues over 6 years of ownership. Very solid car that is practical and fun.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:27 AM   #10
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German built doesn't equal quality. I can tell you from experience that the 16 MK7 GTI I had built in Mexico was much better assembled than my 17 MK7 Golf-R built in Germany. I was actually a little disappointed as I had to take parts off the car to realign and reassemble (both exterior and interior parts). Good thing was I had both MK7's at the time so I actually swapped some misc GTI parts onto my Golf-R like Lego.. LOL

That said, if you like Subaru's OP, keep it Subaru. Legacy wagon I had (assembled in Indiana) was a lemon but you might be able to find a good one in your price range.

About a month ago I was checking Autotrader and a few of my local dealers had super deals going on used Impreza wagons. There was a 16 (MT) with like 10K miles going for $15K. Might be a little out of range from your $12K, but check out the sedans in your area too.. GL and sorry to hear about the accident.
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:49 PM   #11
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Don't like GTI's? Can still have a 5 door with 24 cubic feet of storage. Turbo, 6 speed manual (or not), quick as a modern WRX, and very nice interior. Nicer than any Subaru by far. I've owned several myself. Plus at 12k, you're likely looking at the MK6 generation, which are German built unlike the current MK7's. My last MK6 had zero mechanical issues over 6 years of ownership. Very solid car that is practical and fun.
A lot is made about this on the internet, but I haven't had any problems with either of my Mexican built VWs.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:22 AM   #12
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Test drove a 2015 Legacy over the weekend, seemed pretty nice.

Around here, seems that Imprezas and Crosstreks are selling for more than Legacyís, and having driven my car for almost 7 years, donít think I can buy a car with that engine again.

I assume a good rule of thumb is to stay away from used German cars? Iíve been intrigued at BMW 3 series xdrive, they are reasonable in price and would still offer some sort of AWD

Btw, actually got a pretty good appraisal on my car, about $9500 including sales tax, so that gives me a little more flexibility in getting a replacement.
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:49 PM   #13
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German built doesn't equal quality. I can tell you from experience that the 16 MK7 GTI I had built in Mexico was much better assembled than my 17 MK7 Golf-R built in Germany. I was actually a little disappointed as I had to take parts off the car to realign and reassemble (both exterior and interior parts). Good thing was I had both MK7's at the time so I actually swapped some misc GTI parts onto my Golf-R like Lego.. LOL

That said, if you like Subaru's OP, keep it Subaru. Legacy wagon I had (assembled in Indiana) was a lemon but you might be able to find a good one in your price range.

About a month ago I was checking Autotrader and a few of my local dealers had super deals going on used Impreza wagons. There was a 16 (MT) with like 10K miles going for $15K. Might be a little out of range from your $12K, but check out the sedans in your area too.. GL and sorry to hear about the accident.
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Don't like GTI's? Can still have a 5 door with 24 cubic feet of storage. Turbo, 6 speed manual (or not), quick as a modern WRX, and very nice interior. Nicer than any Subaru by far. I've owned several myself. Plus at 12k, you're likely looking at the MK6 generation, which are German built unlike the current MK7's. My last MK6 had zero mechanical issues over 6 years of ownership. Very solid car that is practical and fun.
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A lot is made about this on the internet, but I haven't had any problems with either of my Mexican built VWs.
VW's have never made any best used car list ever. There's a reason there are so many of them on the market.
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:56 PM   #14
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Dollar for feature, bang for buck, best warranty, and steady been on the most reliable list for the past decade: Hyundai Sonata. Here's one with 30K miles for under 12K. Look at the pics... every feature you'd want. (and I'm posting one right up there around your way)

https://www.mastriakia.com/used/Hyun...1c6dc2c4c9.htm
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Car that's been at the top of the most reliable list for 30 years and has all the necessary features... Toyota Camary. Here's a 2014 with 40K miles. You can probably get another 100K with not much more than oil changes if your a normal driver. (your neck of the woods)

https://www.milfordnissan.com/auto/u...d-ma/33300429/
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:28 PM   #16
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But why would you want to drive some boring family sedan? Sonata? Really? I don't get it. Life is just too short to be driving crappy cars imho, Sonata included.
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:29 PM   #17
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ve been intrigued at BMW 3 series xdrive, they are reasonable in price and would stIíill offer some sort of AWD
After reading this comment, I started surfing the reviews and 2013/14 and up bmw's 3's & 5's have lots of high ratings across the boards. I just doubt you're going to get as low mileage as you would in one of these other cars that are less expensive to start with.

I was also surprised at how many MB's are making the lists for AWD sedans. But if you don't do your own maintenance, forget about it. I have the SL55amg and if you brand dealerships "stealerships", take a look at a quote from the service dept at MB. And even working on the car myself, parts are way more expensive. So I'm telling you that because you may want to look at the BMW cost of ownership. I've never owned one, but as it's the MB counterpart, I suspect there's a similarity there as well.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:41 PM   #18
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The engine in the crosstrek is even more pathetic, my girlfriend has one and it has a whole 148 hp
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If I had $12k to spend and the requirements talked about here, I would go get an Outback. They hold value a little better than the Legacy because it's a 5-door, so you're unlikely to find one as new or with super low mileage, but you can find 2011-2012 (even in Limited trim) with around 60k miles for around that money.

We had an Impreza Sport Limited too, and that engine can barely get that car out of it's own way. Really miserable. We have an Outback now because we didn't want to give up the 5-door configuration, and with 175 hp, it's MUCH more manageable, even with the extra size/weight. My wife is much happier with it than the Impreza.

If you don't care too much about the 5-door, the Legacy is a really nice choice.

I don't have experience with BMW all-wheel drive personally, but I have had rear-wheel drive BMWs, and was not happy with either one when it came to repairs/maintenance/reliability.

Good luck in your search. Let us know what you end up getting and how you like it.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:32 PM   #20
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How about an E46 BMW 330xi? It's a wagon, so that checks the practicality box; it has AWD so there's that box; it isn't too performance oriented but has good mileage [box checked]; BMWs are reliable-ish so we'll give that box a half check. They also look sick as hell! I'd get an E46 wagon without a doubt. My only qualm with the BMW AWD system from my experience with the X3, is that the transfer case chain stretches over time (common with high mileage BMW AWD models) and it requires a pricey rebuild, but the AWD system is really good.
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You can get a brand new Ford Fiesta for $9,999....
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:47 PM   #22
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The engine in the crosstrek is even more pathetic, my girlfriend has one and it has a whole 148 hp
Yeah, I heard about that.. My wife was interested in getting one so I did some research on it. Skip.. at that power I'd prefer the Impreza wagon.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:01 PM   #23
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The engine in the crosstrek is even more pathetic, my girlfriend has one and it has a whole 148 hp
I concur. I sold mine for my WRX.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:27 AM   #24
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Looks like Iím getting a 2016 Legacy Premium. Only 58k miles, and it seemed to drive well. All the maintenance was logged in Carfax and done at a Subaru dealer, so somewhat reassuring.

Nothing is given, but sticking with the devil I know seems to make the most sense at the moment.
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Old 02-08-2019, 07:42 PM   #25
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The engine in the crosstrek is even more pathetic, my girlfriend has one and it has a whole 148 hp
It's the same engine. Sure, it's pushing bigger tires but it also has different gearing.
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