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Old 02-12-2019, 10:15 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

Looking to pick up a Subaru WRX or STI. I have a few deals going from different dealers. Seems like the WRX bass can be had for $26,500 or close to it, while base 2015-2017s with around 15-20k miles on it run about 21-22k.

I am fairly certain Iíd go for a premium over a base for the heated seats.

The Apple car play seems like a nice addition, and I would like to have it but donít need it.

I would like to know if Subaru plans to update the car in the next year or so, I generally like to buy a vehicle after it has a few model years under its belt since they can normally work out the kinks.

How do you guys feel about your WRX/STI? My main reason for getting into one is I miss modifying my cars and driving stock. I drive a Toyota Tacoma now, and love the thing but itís not ideal since I live in a pretty city atmosphere now. I canít get my smiles per gallon in haha.

That being said Iíve also considered just picking up an older sub 10k used WRX or BRZ to play with.

Any help here, sorry for being all over the place.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:59 AM   #2
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I had a similar decision to make a few months ago. I was willing to choose between a slightly-driven WRX or an STI. I'd be willing to get into a <20k miles WRX, but I wanted the whole push start thing, and I HATE leather seats. All I could find were limited ones, and they were all over 25k miles. Not only that, they all had a few mods left on them, so it made me question what else had been done to it, and it just spiraled from there. Instead, I found this new STI just sitting on the lot with pretty much everything I wanted, minus the price tag. I got that instead.

I will say, 10/10 I would go new on the WRXs. The price difference between new and used ones isn't that big, plus you have no idea how hard it was pushed and even if you got it low miles, what is the reason they got rid of it? Save yourself the headache, haggle a little with the dealership, and get a new one. The WRX has a lot more room for mods, and although I love my STI, I'm jealous of how much my GF can do with her WRX before she hits bottleneck. And the 10k difference isn't worth it. Maybe when they come out with the new ones (which they have already said it's not next year) it will be once again, but not right now.

Also, I went to an STI from a BRZ. I loved my little baby but it wasn't practical anymore. I'd love another BRZ at some point but I was addicted to modding it, and it was killing me.

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Old 02-12-2019, 11:22 AM   #3
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I'd literally never buy a used WRX or STI short of some crazy extenuating circumstances. 1. Because if you are looking new ish (4 years or less), the decrease in price doesn't justify its age/ miles. 2. You have no idea how it was driven and lets be real, these aren't driven lightly by most. 3. Most have been modded even if they were turned in stock.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:29 AM   #4
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For a sports car, especially a turbo sports, I wouldn't consider buying used unless it was VERY cheap and I planned on putting lots of work into it. So many people are horribly abusive to their cars with their driving habits... high load / high RPM when cold, high load / low RPM lugging, high RPM reving in neutral / while cold.... and so on.

All that said, I think both the current WRX and STI (I have owned both) are pretty miserable to drive in stop and go... heavy clutch effort, sharp engagement, and sensitive throttle off of idle. The WRX is worse than the STI in those aspect plus has a longer clutch lever throw. Their almost silent engine notes don't make things any easier either. If I lived or worked in a city, I wouldn't consider a manual trans, and especially not in a WRX / STI.
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:36 PM   #5
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I had a similar decision to make a few months ago. I was willing to choose between a slightly-driven WRX or an STI. I'd be willing to get into a <20k miles WRX, but I wanted the whole push start thing, and I HATE leather seats. All I could find were limited ones, and they were all over 25k miles. Not only that, they all had a few mods left on them, so it made me question what else had been done to it, and it just spiraled from there. Instead, I found this new STI just sitting on the lot with pretty much everything I wanted, minus the price tag. I got that instead.

I will say, 10/10 I would go new on the WRXs. The price difference between new and used ones isn't that big, plus you have no idea how hard it was pushed and even if you got it low miles, what is the reason they got rid of it? Save yourself the headache, haggle a little with the dealership, and get a new one. The WRX has a lot more room for mods, and although I love my STI, I'm jealous of how much my GF can do with her WRX before she hits bottleneck. And the 10k difference isn't worth it. Maybe when they come out with the new ones (which they have already said it's not next year) it will be once again, but not right now.

Also, I went to an STI from a BRZ. I loved my little baby but it wasn't practical anymore. I'd love another BRZ at some point but I was addicted to modding it, and it was killing me.
Thanks man, I think Iím with you on this. Why did modifying the BRZ quote on quote kill you?
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:01 PM   #6
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Thanks man, I think Iím with you on this. Why did modifying the BRZ quote on quote kill you?
A little after i first got her, i was stationed in IL and my gf in NE. I would take her little stock ass on drives around hills and mountains all the time, especially when I drove to go see my GF. Then they moved us both to AZ, and my passion for my baby died. I couldn't take her around them sweet natural curves anymore, unless I headed north towards Flagstaff, but now with my gf next to me all the time, I wouldn't do it anymore. So if I couldn't take her down the mountains, I tried making her "fast." And that's when I ruined it. She wasn't fun anymore, it was all about power. I tried telling me that she cut corners better than Trump, but I was still unsatisfied. Then my kids came over for summer, and I couldn't handle getting them in and out of her everyday, so I borrowed my gf's WRX for everything.

Her WRX was stock back then, but suddenly I was having fun again. I couldn't take corners like before but I had fun pushing my kids back on their seats. We got her a muffler delete, and what a lovely sound that was. It even had an awesome placebo effect on power, and I took it all in with pleasure.

Anyways, I realize I could have taken my baby to autoX, but I could never justify the money. I am an amateur driver, and so I was also scared of realizing that I wasn't such hot **** after all. That with the fact that I wanted to be fair to my gf and make our relationship last, I caved in. Turned her to stock and the following week I had my new STI on hand. ****, she hasn't been even broken her 4k hymen but she's already stage 2, waiting on intake so I can protune her. Now, although I still have the need to mod my car because I can, I don't feel as guilty or as needy anymore. And I can still have fun in all different environments.

Sorry for the long post. Sitting here in the Sauna, reliving those moments, makes me feel good inside.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:32 PM   #7
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A little after i first got her, i was stationed in IL and my gf in NE. I would take her little stock ass on drives around hills and mountains all the time, especially when I drove to go see my GF. Then they moved us both to AZ, and my passion for my baby died. I couldn't take her around them sweet natural curves anymore, unless I headed north towards Flagstaff, but now with my gf next to me all the time, I wouldn't do it anymore. So if I couldn't take her down the mountains, I tried making her "fast." And that's when I ruined it. She wasn't fun anymore, it was all about power. I tried telling me that she cut corners better than Trump, but I was still unsatisfied. Then my kids came over for summer, and I couldn't handle getting them in and out of her everyday, so I borrowed my gf's WRX for everything.

Her WRX was stock back then, but suddenly I was having fun again. I couldn't take corners like before but I had fun pushing my kids back on their seats. We got her a muffler delete, and what a lovely sound that was. It even had an awesome placebo effect on power, and I took it all in with pleasure.

Anyways, I realize I could have taken my baby to autoX, but I could never justify the money. I am an amateur driver, and so I was also scared of realizing that I wasn't such hot **** after all. That with the fact that I wanted to be fair to my gf and make our relationship last, I caved in. Turned her to stock and the following week I had my new STI on hand. ****, she hasn't been even broken her 4k hymen but she's already stage 2, waiting on intake so I can protune her. Now, although I still have the need to mod my car because I can, I don't feel as guilty or as needy anymore. And I can still have fun in all different environments.

Sorry for the long post. Sitting here in the Sauna, reliving those moments, makes me feel good inside.
No problem, thatís an awesome write up! Iím glad you got into something you could enjoy again.

Seems like we come from similar walks of life in terms of cars. My truck was the best when I lived out in the boonies, now Iím a city dweller and the best I can do is drive 2 hours to offriad somewhere. So you still like the WRX over the STI?
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:56 AM   #8
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No problem, thatís an awesome write up! Iím glad you got into something you could enjoy again.

Seems like we come from similar walks of life in terms of cars. My truck was the best when I lived out in the boonies, now Iím a city dweller and the best I can do is drive 2 hours to offriad somewhere. So you still like the WRX over the STI?
It's hard. They drive completely different. I really like how the wrx hits boost a lot sooner than the STI. It makes city driving a little easier; you don't have to step on the gas every time. On the other hand, I love stepping on the gas every time with my STI. Was it worth $10k more? Honestly, I don't think so. Would I trade it in for a WRX? No. If I could do it all over, would I get a WRX instead? That's a definite maybe.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:35 PM   #9
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It's hard. They drive completely different. I really like how the wrx hits boost a lot sooner than the STI. It makes city driving a little easier; you don't have to step on the gas every time. On the other hand, I love stepping on the gas every time with my STI. Was it worth $10k more? Honestly, I don't think so. Would I trade it in for a WRX? No. If I could do it all over, would I get a WRX instead? That's a definite maybe.
Iím the opposite lol. If I could redo my car purchase I would get the STI hands down. Just not having rev-hang, carbon buildup and a squealing TOB would be enough lol.

Way better AWD system, suspension, better gearshift feel and the more power is just icing on the cake Would miss the fast spool and fuel economy maybe haha
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:50 PM   #10
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The issue is people drive the STI in too low of an RPM while cruising. I keep the engine reving 2500rpm or higher. There is no sense of the car lacking in power down low (well, for a 4 banger that is).

It's actually my WRX with its taller gearing that feels like it lugs even if it does have a twin scroll..
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Old 02-18-2019, 03:45 PM   #11
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I bought my WRX with 105k on the ODO (2011 WRX) and the car has been great the last year with no issues. I would say buy used 100% if their is a long maintenance/receipt history available to you.. These cars are reliable when left stock and maintained meticulously.
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