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Old 01-09-2007, 05:30 PM   #51
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I'm not super fast by any means (finished in the mid-30's in Topeka) but -

The Neovas are the fast tire.

Pick out some coilovers and a spring rate (ohlins, zzyzx, kw, tein)

Get a big bar in front (Whiteline or Strano)

Rear swaybar endlinks (hold off on a rear bar until you learn the car - you may not want one)

Cat back isn't really going to help you - the only part you might think about getting is a resonator-free rear pipe, and then put a straight pipe on that.

Since your not willing to put the TBE on or get the car tuned, you're pretty much stuck power wise.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:34 PM   #52
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Thanks - I appreciate the input!

Keep it coming, guys!

Which are the best coilovers and with which spring rates? I think that's my big stumbling block...

Might go with the Whiteline front bar for now since it's a daily driver and I know Sam's bar has had some fitment issues...

And I totally agree on the Neova's! I put them on my old Boxster S and it simply transformed the car!

What size/brand wheels are people using? That's another thing - I've put snows on the stockers and will just bundle up the stock tires for later, and go with the Neova's and ??? wheels.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:37 PM   #53
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Lots of positive camber in front, raise the rear ride height about 5" and use the narrowest tires you can find, lol.

Looking forward to seeing you and the rest of the NWR folks at Packwood.
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:38 PM   #54
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Thanks - I appreciate the input!

Keep it coming, guys!

Which are the best coilovers and with which spring rates? I think that's my big stumbling block...

Might go with the Whiteline front bar for now since it's a daily driver and I know Sam's bar has had some fitment issues...

And I totally agree on the Neova's! I put them on my old Boxster S and it simply transformed the car!

What size/brand wheels are people using? That's another thing - I've put snows on the stockers and will just bundle up the stock tires for later, and go with the Neova's and ??? wheels.
For coilovers, I'll just say that I know that somebody who placed in the top 5 at Nationals that ran with 10k/12k springs. However, most seem to go with 12k/10k. If money was no object I would get them from zzyzx.

Personally, I don't have the money to compete nationally right now so I've settled for softer spring since it is also my DD. (7K/8K) Maybe in a few years I will have the $$$ to make a serious try.

Although I had no fitment issues with Sam's bar, your right, some people did but it was just a bolt you could turn or grind a little off. I think the Whiteline bar is just as good - 29mm vs. 29.6mm (equivalent of 32mm hollow bar).

Wheels, well the lightest thing you can find that will fit 245s. Can't really comment on this since I just have Rota's but they are 17.5lbs a wheel (torques).

One important mod that helps driving is a harness of some sort for the stock seats. I find myself fighting to stay in one place without one.

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Old 01-09-2007, 07:17 PM   #55
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In order of importance, IMO

Free stuff. Race with 1/4 tank as long as you don't have fuel cut problems. I run even less and have never had cut.

Alignment Front -3.0 camber, 1/16" toe out. Rear -1.0 camber, 0 toe.

I run give or take 2 psi depending on how the 38psi front, 36psi rear. Maybe able to run less with wider wheels.

1. You might want to experiment 12k/10k, 10k/12k and even 12k/12k. The KW and zzyzz are 2 of the best. I have Tein Flex which work great on the track but suck on the street. What I got was largely based on my budget. BTW National champ was on OTS Flex's with 12k/12k. You want the best of the best, spent $10,000 on a set of custom Motons.

2. Whichever big FSB you prefer. I have Stanos, will be switching to Whiteline. Stranos fits poorly.

3. Yoko's are the tire to have, Azenis work well if you are on a budget. MX work well for multi driver efforts.

4. I have the quick fit belts, work great.

5. Whichever TBE that meets your tolerance for loud, but read the cat placement rules. I think the shorty DP's are a good choice since you have to keep a cat anyway. I got the Scoobysport one used and it is a pretty nice peice. Went with the Prodrive round tip axleback because I thought the Borla Hush was to loud.

6. Tune, I think OpenECU is a great contribution, and many tuners are starting to tune with it, making a tune much cheaper.

The rest in any order your budget will allow.

Wheels are largely a matter of where you want to spend money. 17x9 seems to be the sweet spot with 245 width tires. I am still running the stock 17 x 8. Nationals winning car was using stock 17 x 7.5. There is feel and added stability to be had with 9" wheel, but you aren't giving up huge amounts of grip.

Headers or P&P stock headers. EL headers have been shown to gain power everywhere when tuned. P&P stocker with new crosspipe is great poor mans header with good gains down low.

Light weight pulley ( isn't going to give you alot of hp, but easier to match revs) Don't get underdriven.

Light weight battery, relocated to the trunk for extra cool points.

Replace stock seats with race seats. Look at the rules there are weight requirements.

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Old 01-09-2007, 07:30 PM   #56
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Please do a quick write up on how the 07 performs on the course! Interested to see if the new 2nd gear will help....among other changes they made...(added weight )
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:14 PM   #57
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Hey Annie...

What the hell?

Andy

PS - if you're really interested, I'll hook you up with Oregon's STU crowd. They'll get you pointed in the right direction.

Edit: Is this the 37th car when you count duplicates or not? I mean it was 4 TypeR's and 5 S2000's, right? Are you counting those as two total or nine total?
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:14 PM   #58
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Annie,

I would contact Myles @ Racecomp Engineering about coilovers. His RCE/KW setup may be a good choice. I ran the Cusco Zero 2R's last year which, while only single adjustable, worked really well and are very comfortable on the street (10k/8k).

If you go for a set of 17x9's, you'll need +45 or higher to avoid rubbing in the back. My 5Zigen FN01RC's are +43 and I had to put camber plates in the rear to cure the rubbing.

Other then that, a Whiteline 27-29mm FSB, maybe a Cobb 22-24mm RSB and a Cobb catback would all work very well. The Cobb catback is an easy fit and is quiet when you are not WOT. You can add the Cobb DP with high-flo later when you are ready for a tune. Whilst a catback is not going to give you much more power, I find a little more exhaust note helps you hear where the revs are.

Yokohama Neova 245/40/17's are a no brainer

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Old 01-09-2007, 09:42 PM   #59
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One important mod that helps driving is a harness of some sort for the stock seats. I find myself fighting to stay in one place without one.
So true. One of the best mods I did on my RS was this Schroth belt http://www.soloracer.com/rallye4.html

Without it, I was all over the car, and in fact I was pressing my knee up against the door so hard that I popped the power window piece out. With the harness, I'm pretty firmly planted.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:45 PM   #60
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:14 PM   #61
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Annie, welcome to the STi club! Ryan Otis and I both run Sti's in STU in Oregon region. We have been incredibly happy with the KW coilovers. We both run 8k/7k for now. I think they are a good setup for a car that gets driven a lot on the street. I also run the big Whiteline FSB. For wheels you can get 17x9 Kosie K1 Ts's from Tire rack for about $250 ea. The 45 offset is just about ideal for a 9" wide rim. They are pretty light too.

I think everybody else covered the basic alignment stuff. When you are ready for EM give PDX Tuning a call. I know your up north but it would be worth the trip.

Looking forward to seeing you and your STi in Packwood. I plan on making it up for a couple of slush events at Bremerton, I"ll keep a look out for you. You can take a run in my car and see how it feels to you.

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Old 01-09-2007, 10:17 PM   #62
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Annie,

Just track down Doug Mikko and pick his brain.

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Old 01-09-2007, 10:27 PM   #63
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Annie, welcome to the STi club!
You act like this is her first STi. If memory serves, this is her second STi. Seems like there was an RX-8, Boxster S and TypeR in between her two STi's. And I know I missed a car or two in there... maybe another S2000 or Miata and there's an outside chance she had another IS.

Yes, she has an addiction. Unfortunately, she can't stick to the 12 step program.

(I'm just jealous, Annie!)
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:38 PM   #64
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Ive been reading STU rules latley, coming from SM, and I am wondering how legal is a "tune" for stu...
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:41 PM   #65
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A tune is STU legal if it only adjusts fuel/timing and does not touch the stock boost tables.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:59 PM   #66
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A bit can be gained from adjusting the cam timing too.

BTW, hi Annie. And Max. And Andy.

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STOCK! lol modding begins now!
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:29 PM   #69
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Does your 07 suffer from horrible throttle response? Ive only autoxed one 07 but it was bad enough that I would never want to try again untill the issue is resolved.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:38 PM   #70
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My gawd you guys just ROCK! Stupid good amounts of info - exactly what I need! And HI to all the folks I know, and HI to all the folks I'm now meeting!

And, for the first time in my life, I can say "money is no object" for this car, although I'm not going to burn up money just for the sake of burning it up, which is why I want to make sure I get the right, best parts the first time around. That way, when I do take it to the next level of prep (EM) I'm not redoing a lot. I may do a softer spring like James and Ryan suggested for now, and bump to a 10 or 12K later, but I'm going to minimize my compromises.

I'm likely co-driving a slow CS car this year, so I won't be in the STI too terribly much, as I've got to learn yet another beast - heck, I haven't driven the same car at nationals twice (although this is where the multiple Type R's and S2K's comes in... technically it was never the same car...). Also, I'll miss the first part of the season as I just got out of the foot cast from my injury at the Pro Finale (who knew Andy Hollis and champagne bottles were so dangerous?)

And yes, this is my second STI - many people never saw the first. I plan to keep this one for a while (heh, I always say that) so I'm going to space out the mods by a few weeks each, so it's always "interesting" and "new", if that makes sense!

Yay! You guys are great!
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:41 PM   #71
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One (small) biggie that I don't think was mentioned - STEERING RACK BUSHINGS.

Now, on an 07, this may not be necessary. I know that the 04 that I am driving had the same steering rack setup as my 02, which is mushy. The 07 may have the good stuff already in there.

Also, on your spring rate, I would try the stiffer in the front first. We are doing this and the car will still throttle oversteer if you need it.
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Take at look at the Zzyzx coilovers if money is not an object. Can't go wrong with those babies.

www.zzyzxmotorsports.com
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:46 PM   #73
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Does your 07 suffer from horrible throttle response? Ive only autoxed one 07 but it was bad enough that I would never want to try again untill the issue is resolved.
My car's not broken in yet, but even with moderate throttle I can feel the hesitation. Once it's broken in, I'll get a case open with the dealer. This is another reason why I'm not going to EM right away, I want Subaru to fix that first (yes, I know I'll be able to fix it with EM, but I'd rather have a useful stock map, too...)
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Hi all,

Some of you may know me, some may not - I'm Annie, and yes, I am a car addict. I just bought car #37 that I've owned in my lifetime , and it's a 2007 STI.

I want the best, fastest parts. Period. I'm looking at people who are competing nationally for assistance, as I *am* competitive! At the same time, it is my daily driver so I'm not going all out on it - I'm keeping the stock seats and for now, the stock EM. I just can't void the warranty quite yet.

Thanks!

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I hear the hot mod for STU is an Evo 9. So sell the STI and move on to #38.
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How much do the zzxyz's run typically for cost, and would the fact they're aluminum, not steel, be something to worry about for daily driving?
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