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07-17-2013, 08:17 PM | #126 | |
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I personally drained that oil, and believe me, it was gear oil or something similar. You don't forget the first time you smell that **** and get it on your hands lol. Maybe gear and motor oil mixed....who knows.
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07-18-2013, 08:21 AM | #127 | |
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http://www.pqiamerica.com/ He probably would have better off with any 5W-20 engine oil in the tranny. -Dennis Last edited by bluesubie; 07-18-2013 at 10:20 AM. |
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07-18-2013, 10:32 AM | #128 | |
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Honda may very well agree with you. The OM for my Civic says if you can't find Honda MTL, use 10w30! |
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07-22-2013, 03:03 PM | #129 |
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This is my UOA in my 2013 wrx after 8000 Miles on the motor after its first oil change. The dealer replaced factory fill at 39xxmiles with subaru full synthetic (or so I think they did lol). I replaced the oil to get this sample to Blackstone at 79xx with Pennzoil ultra.
Enjoy. Link and image below https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Cq...it?usp=sharing Here is the thread I made for it: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2530257 |
07-24-2013, 06:55 PM | #130 |
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Link to my 1st UOA: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...5&postcount=21
Here's my 2nd UOA at 7500 miles on the car, 3500 give or take on the Subaru 5w30 synthetic. The Subaru stuff is looking pretty decent. Holding viscosity at least. |
07-24-2013, 09:23 PM | #131 | |
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I'm curious on how you've driven your car as I think it has result on the oil. I'll replacing my oil soonish in about 500 miles, so we compare nearly same interval mileage. |
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07-24-2013, 09:48 PM | #132 | |
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On this last oil fill, and on the current one, the levels when hot dropped pretty quick to about 4mm below the full dot (F) and stayed there, no apparent usage for most of the OCI. It used some oil on the factory fill and was topped up a little. The viscosity looked a bit thin when hot as the oil comes off the dipstick like water, but the UOA looks good. I check all the fluids hot when I fill up, and I had to top up about a teacup of coolant about 3500 miles, but nothing since then. I'm happy with this. The Subaru synthetic looks good for light duty. Last edited by kabz; 07-24-2013 at 09:50 PM. Reason: added coolant note |
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07-25-2013, 07:43 AM | #133 | |
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07-25-2013, 11:07 AM | #134 | |
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I agree, the last couple of UOAs on the Subaru 5w30 look pretty good from a viscosity perspective, the TBN still looks weak however. It's possible that the oil is an "overbased" lube which stabilizes at TBN of ~2.0 for a long time, but someone is going to have to be the 7,500 mile guinea pig to inform the rest of us. Now if only we had some confidence which product is in a given bottle. I suspect the best Subaru 5w30 UOAs are with the API SN/ILSAC GF-5 variety of the oil. Unfortunately, Subaru has a habit of shipping GF-5 oil in bottles labeled GF-4, so it's hard to tell by the bottle if you have the new, better stuff or old stock of the inferior GF-4 stuff. It's likely that the old stock is gone by now though, so not much to worry about. |
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07-25-2013, 09:59 PM | #135 |
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Interesting.... So you commute in traffic? Or constant 60-75mph.
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07-25-2013, 10:47 PM | #136 |
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08-21-2013, 01:29 PM | #137 |
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First oil change on a 2013 WRX. Seems to have sheared pretty significantly in <3k miles.
First oil change was free at dealer... they looked at me pretty strangely when i asked for them to catch a sample of the used oil As you can tell, i don't drive much (4.1 mile commute to work each way; i got the car in January, so ~400 miles/month). I plan to change my own oil from now on, with the next change being in ~6 months (probably ~2500 miles later). I'm leaning toward using a gallon of the OEM Subaru 5W-30 syn, then topped off (0.5 - 0.8 quarts i hear) with Rotella T6. I want to keep that warranty in tact... Seem reasonable? Last edited by psupunk; 08-21-2013 at 01:34 PM. Reason: more info |
08-21-2013, 03:57 PM | #138 | |
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With that daily commute, you're probably not even getting the coolant up to temp, never mind the oil. You need that heat to boil off moisture, else it's staying in your engine . Also, research new car engine break-in; you are on track for the weakest break-in in history. Warranty? So, you'll either show them the SOA oil receipt that is for 4 qts. (looks like you under-filled each OCI; unless you are buying like 34 quart bottles at a time) or the SOA + RT6 receipt, and then it looks like you used unapproved oil. Adios power train warranty. If your gonna blow your warranty, might as well use straight RT6... Do more reading, there are better oils that meet your warranty needs...or buy "appropriate" oils, copy the receipt in case of future claims, return piss-water and buy better "unapproved" oil. Any oil that goes from 30 to 20 weight in only ~2500 miles is NOT the right oil for you. Less than a quart of RT6 is not going to save yer butt. It's not too late - do more research. GL bro. Last edited by oaklandish_WRX; 08-21-2013 at 03:59 PM. Reason: moar |
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08-21-2013, 05:44 PM | #139 |
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IIRC, the Subaru oil starts with a viscosity of around 10.5/10.6 cst's at 100C so the oil sheared very little.
oaklandish, even though it doesn't exist the manual allows conventional 5W-40 for replenishment. I would say it's fine to top off with RT6. -Dennis |
08-21-2013, 07:16 PM | #140 |
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Thanks guys. I have been somewhat concerned that my short commute may be bad for the car, but note that my work commute accounts for less than half my mileage, so there are plenty of other trips that are longer. Also, those 4 miles take ~12 min in the morning and ~15 in the evening, so it's not super short. Also also, there was no water in my oil, so it must be doing fairly well at boiling it off.
I think i'll keep doing UOAs, and if something raises a red flag, i may try to make sure i throw a nice long jaunt through some fun roads once a week into the schedule |
08-21-2013, 07:25 PM | #141 | |
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A quick read thru earlier posts in this thread had other, also well respected, folks worrying about a 25% rate of shear for an oil. This FF, tho heavy on moly as others have seem to have found, sheared ~30% to a 20W in well less than the recommended OCI. Will that change as the eng breaks in? thanks! |
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08-21-2013, 07:51 PM | #142 | |
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Like I mean, did you get the car up to operating temp when you reached the dealership when the sample was taken, or was it another short trip? I suppose even if it was a short trip sample, it would be more accurate to your driving. GF-5 Subaru 5w-30 should be 11.28cst @ 100C. Nearly 30% shear rate if you take psupank numbers! It's not fair to compare FF to that oil though. |
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08-21-2013, 08:49 PM | #143 | |
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Or, are you saying that the GF-5 5w-30 will be better than the FF he posted the UOA on? Me dense this time of dey... |
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08-21-2013, 09:15 PM | #144 | |
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Check out post #129 and #130 in this thread. Both are Subaru 5w30, and maintained that viscosity. |
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08-22-2013, 08:16 AM | #145 |
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08-22-2013, 02:13 PM | #147 | |
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08-22-2013, 04:07 PM | #148 |
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08-22-2013, 06:06 PM | #149 | |
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Did you get that from ILA? Oh noes! I thought the Subaru oil was "synthetic". The petroleum base oils contained in this product have been highly refined by a variety of processes including solvent extraction, hydrotreating, and dewaxing to remove aromatics and improve performance characteristics. -Dennis Last edited by bluesubie; 08-22-2013 at 06:40 PM. |
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08-22-2013, 07:41 PM | #150 | |
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I asked specifically for Subaru Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-30 She gave me the 55 gallon lube version... maybe she's trying to hint at something... |
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