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Old 02-15-2018, 02:41 PM   #701
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So I think i've isolated the issue with the XPS13 and the jet engine fan. With the laptop plugged in actively using the computer or even just turned on doing nothing, the fans kick in and are loud as ****. With the computer unplugged, the fans do not seem to kick on at all. I'm not sure what causes the fans to kick on when plugged into power.

Going to play with both the macbook and xps13 for a week and see which on I like better.
go to power settings. I'm guessing that plugged in you're running at the fastest speeds possible, and the fans kick in to provide cooling.

Unplugged it drops to optimized to maximize battery life which slows things down and the fans will only kick in when necessary.

Install some CPU monitor to see what temps you are running to get a sense of why the fan is kicking on. My X1 carbon was fan constant on, had Lenovo fix it under warranty.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:51 PM   #702
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Its probably the bitcoin malware cranking the CPU and GPU to the max once the power is on AC. Check for processes using 100% CPU time.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:38 PM   #703
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go to power settings. I'm guessing that plugged in you're running at the fastest speeds possible, and the fans kick in to provide cooling.

Unplugged it drops to optimized to maximize battery life which slows things down and the fans will only kick in when necessary.

Install some CPU monitor to see what temps you are running to get a sense of why the fan is kicking on. My X1 carbon was fan constant on, had Lenovo fix it under warranty.
Good tip, TWSS.

My plugged and unplugged settings are the same, "balanced" and likely everything in there is default. I don't recall making any other changes other than turning down the screen brightness.

*right click the battery/power icon to get to these settings*

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Its probably the bitcoin malware cranking the CPU and GPU to the max once the power is on AC. Check for processes using 100% CPU time.

I've been a little paranoid about this. What's not helping is sometimes it seems when I open taskmgr the CPU use goes down. Leaving taskmgr up, the fans kick on, check taskgmr and the CPU use goes down. "would someone be so detailed in their compromising of a machine they would throttle their program if it knew the user was looking at taskmgr?" I should just put foil around my wifi to protect it.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:38 PM   #704
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:26 AM   #705
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:32 PM   #706
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Power Supplies are the only things I've had fail on any laptop I've had. Aside from a refurbished HP I used in the garage (no idea what or how many things died in that). If I can't find supply in my box of random computer garbage for a replacement they're easily had for not too much new from the OEM or rolling the dice on questionable 3rd party sources.

Using a Dell XPS 13, early 2015 model, the original power supply pooped the bed pretty early with Dell's customer service taking about 2 minutes to agree to send out a replacement. I bought I 'dock' for it that wasn't really a dock but just another thing with too many wires going everywhere interestingly (to me) its power supply cable was more robust and worked with the laptop and the laptop power supply worked with the 'dock'. I used the dock's power supply now for 3'ish years now it has failed or is failing if you're a positive person since it can still work if the cable is adjusted just right. Pulling the replacement supply used with the dock and that died... more I think it's just not seen by computer but likely is fine.

The "works" is limited to the computer being able to control the power supply... this is old news I'm sure. Still it's no less tedious out of the handful of power supplies I have on hand that meet the requirements down to matching each spec, watt/amp/volt, of the original supply the machine will not charge. It at least is using the power from the supply I have plugged in but it will not charge with any combination of bios and OS settings I've tried.

Reading support forums:

power off computer: okay, within my skill level

unplug computer: 2 for 2.. things are looking up

get specialty screw drivers: umm

remove battery:

remove charging port: next please

next DIY how-to

power off computer: okay, within my skill level

unplug computer: 2 for 2.. cautious optimism

adjust power port screw until the system starts charging: it's a computer, not a carburetor


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Old 07-08-2018, 08:38 PM   #707
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:50 PM   #708
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15.6" W10 laptop for middle school kids. Mostly apps running in browser.
A6-9200, Celeron N3350 or Pentium N4200? Under $200.
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Aren't all the kids using ipads now?
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:24 PM   #710
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15.6" W10 laptop for middle school kids. Mostly apps running in browser.
A6-9200, Celeron N3350 or Pentium N4200? Under $200.
The main thing I used to look for in lower end laptops is virtualization ability. I think it's pretty standard, all three say they have it. Middle School kids maybe wont care but if they're interested or become interested in the oily bits of computers it would be great to use virtual machines to sandbox them. I'd go with the one that gives you the better warranty and seems the most robust.


Chromebooks are great value too unless the kids need Window to run school related software.
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:31 PM   #711
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My power cable issue:

One of original power bricks for the XPS worked... then didn't. I found another brick that has the same specs and it works... but doesn't charge battery. I left the original power brick plugged into the power strip. It has an LED in the plug to let you know it's on... yesterday I noticed it was on. Why did it die... why is it now alive? The power brick I was using that died... it works now... and then dies.

I keep the one that powers the laptop but doesn't charge the battery plugged in until I notice I didn't notice it was unplugged and the battery is low. I plug in a power brick that will charge the battery until it decides it's bored of that and dies. The I put the other non charging brick back in.
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:38 PM   #712
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My power cable issue:

One of original power bricks for the XPS worked... then didn't. I found another brick that has the same specs and it works... but doesn't charge battery. I left the original power brick plugged into the power strip. It has an LED in the plug to let you know it's on... yesterday I noticed it was on. Why did it die... why is it now alive? The power brick I was using that died... it works now... and then dies.

I keep the one that powers the laptop but doesn't charge the battery plugged in until I notice I didn't notice it was unplugged and the battery is low. I plug in a power brick that will charge the battery until it decides it's bored of that and dies. The I put the other non charging brick back in.
Sounds like the cable got twisted and is partially torn.
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:56 PM   #713
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A6-9200, Celeron N3350 or Pentium N4200? Under $200.
Definitely the Pentium. Twice the cores and a higher boost clock. I got my mother an HP Chromebook 15 with the N4200 in it and it performs well enough for browsing and basic productivity. I would not want anything slower though.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:57 PM   #714
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Just how ****ty is the Samsung Chromebook 3? I have 0 interest in it or a new laptop/Chromebook but looking at the Samsung S9 phone on Amazon for my wife, I see they bundle the Chromebook literally for free. She has a Macbook for work, I have a new laptop as well as an old one I use for work and even yet another old one I have hooked up to the TV via HDMI for playing downloaded content/streaming. So we have no real use for it, but it's free. Do we even want it or is it such an old piece of junk that it would never even be opened? Sell it for $150 down here in the 3rd world or something?
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Old 07-26-2018, 02:09 PM   #715
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IMHO I'd gladly recommend a Chromebook for a casual user...like my parents.
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Old 07-26-2018, 02:22 PM   #716
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We could give it to my mom. We have no use for it, but it's free so why not?
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Old 07-26-2018, 05:56 PM   #718
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My next laptop will probably be a Chromebook, now that they can run not only Android apps but also Linux software natively without any hacks.

I thought about going ARM but I'll probably get one with an Intel chip just because some of the software I run in Linux doesn't have ARM support yet.
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:08 PM   #719
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I've gotten my mom a laptop a few times and just go with something lower midrange and replace it when dad says "her laptop wants to die but she's not letting it." I think she had over 10 years on the last one. Then I get updates on the migration over the next year to the new laptop. It's a lot better than her being 'scared' to touch dad's computer and much better than him trying to figure out what she did or downloaded this time to make it eat itself. I tried to show them the remote help features and realized it was likely in everyone's best interest to forget it exist.

I wanted to buy her a chromebook with her computer usage being forums, sites Giorgio A. Tsoukalos would call over the top, daily affirmations with minions and candy crush. Dad thought it would be too different from windows and she wouldn't try to use it.

When traveling to questionable places where I'm just happy to have not died getting there or back I take my chromebook. It was old and a refurb when I got 3'ish years ago and for normal use it's, to me, very good. Not 5 pages and 20 tabs open on each of pornhub good but it's very nice. I feel like low end processors are very good when a 3rd party doesn't load it down things no one cares about in a $100 laptop.

Remember netbooks being all the rage for that year? Netbook with windows was unbearable. Netbook with a slightly stripped linux desktop load; tolerable to pleasant for my top two needs... cheap (also refurbed bottom of the barrel system) and fan-less.
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Chromebooks are the ultimate parentputer. I got one for my mom about five years ago (that the Chromebook 15 just replaced) and my tech support calls went down to almost zero. They don't have spyware/viruses, they seamlessly handle their own updates, and they require zero maintenance. Honestly ChromeOS has gotten so good (with Android/Linux apps) that it could function as my main machine with what I require of a PC these days.
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Old 08-02-2018, 12:52 PM   #721
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Laptop under $800?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:57 PM   #722
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Laptop under $800?
Any preference in screen size, features, or brand? Touch screen? Trackpad capabilities? Aluminum/magnesium casing over plastic? Durability over portability or vice versa? USB-C charge capability preferred? Light weight or more battery-life orientation? Is a splendid built-in keyboard a must? Is it for general usage or will it also see anything that may be more intensive?

At that price range, you're going to be able to get quite a lot in that 13.3/14/15.6-inch range with a good processor, an SSD, and a solid build quality. My work machine is a base ThinkPad T470 with an SSD and it's a solid all-around machine that's built well, a nice compromise between form factor and great battery life, and it has a keyboard that is an absolute joy to type on all day long. The updated version is supposedly quite nice.
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yeeeeah like schwifty said, we need some more requirements/preferences... that's like asking: "car under $40k?"
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:30 AM   #724
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Basic use for MS Office work and surfing. No specific requests.

For someone I know. Just think standard laptop a company would give out. Touchscreen, USB-C,... not necessarily needed.

I suggested Dell XPS13. So maybe like that. I'll suggest the T480.
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Sounds like the cable got twisted and is partially torn.
That's what I thought. It happens to every charger and I accept it since I'm always moving it around. I've used the original charger that came with the laptop for the last three days without an issue. It failed and was quickly replaced by Dell and they didn't want it back so I just stuck it in the box of old computer stuff. I remember friends having problems with their Mac Books because it wouldn't talk to the battery and/or charger leading to not being able to at least keep it powered on. I thought that was dumb... still do... I have checked into how this one, ~2015 xps 13, 'talks' to the charger but I've been able to use another cheaper dell power brick expecting to replace it after a few years. That one stopped working leading to the pulling every charger out I have that had the right specs... and why not pull out this old failed one so when I have to toss all of this I'll have it handy. Now... three days of no problems. I was/am able to use a non-Dell charger to keep the machine powered on but whatever interfaces with the charger wont all it to charge.


That's confusing to read for me so hope it makes some sense. Basically I'm kicking the can down the road not wanting to replace this machine and for sure not because it can't chat to the charger. But anything outside of musical chairs with chargers and it's getting moved to backup duty.
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