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Old 11-16-2019, 10:07 PM   #826
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Old 11-17-2019, 02:40 PM   #827
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:04 PM   #828
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WTF hasppen? Didn't see the race.
Gotta watch the replay.
Gasly 2nd?
Both Ferraris took eath other out.
Lewis punted Albon out?
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:41 PM   #829
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WTF hasppen? Didn't see the race.
Gotta watch the replay.
Gasly 2nd?
Both Ferraris took each other out.
Lewis punted Albon out?
Yes, do watch it.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, though the stewards haven't blamed anyone yet.
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:17 PM   #830
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Hahahaha - Ferrari is always it's own worst enemy. At least get your cars to finish the race. Feel really bad for Albon though, so so close... Could still have been a GP2 engine podium sweep without the penalties. VTEC finally kicked in. Happy with Alfa's results too.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:05 PM   #831
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Nah Vettel didn't take his teammate out, it's totally not his thing.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:32 PM   #832
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Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 71 1h 33:14.678
2 Gasly Toro Rosso 71 + 0:06.077
3 Sainz McLaren 71 + 0:08.896
4 Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 71 + 0:09.452
5 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 71 + 0:10.201
6 Ricciardo Renault 71 + 0:10.541
7 Norris McLaren 71 + 0:11.204
8 Hamilton Mercedes 71 + 0:11.139
9 Perez Racing Point 71 + 0:11.529
10 Kvyat Toro Rosso 71 + 0:11.931
11 Magnussen Haas 71 + 0:12.732
12 Russell Williams 71 + 0:13.599
13 Grosjean Haas 71 + 0:14.247
14 Albon Red Bull 71 + 0:14.927
15 Hulkenberg Renault 71 + 0:18.059
16 Kubica Williams 70 + 1 Lap
17 Vettel Ferrari 65 Accident
18 Leclerc Ferrari 65 Accident
19 Stroll Racing Point 65 Accident Damage
Bottas Mercedes 51 Engine

Lewis gets penalize down to seventh.
Does this mean McLaren gets their first podium in the turbo v6 era?
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:27 PM   #833
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Nah Vettel didn't take his teammate out, it's totally not his thing.
Haha! Right...
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:48 PM   #834
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:46 AM   #835
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:53 AM   #836
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Safety cars to the rescue again.

Crazy ending.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:41 AM   #837
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That was a spicy race! Glad to see Honda right up there again.
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:01 PM   #838
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I don't have any particular bias towards any team or driver, but I was rooting for that honda sweep so bad, WHAT A RACE!
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Old 11-18-2019, 06:13 PM   #839
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**** Tilke dromes, let us watch F1 races on authentic race tracks!
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:38 AM   #840
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Old 11-20-2019, 12:36 PM   #841
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I think Vettel's F1 career is ending. No longer a dominant driver. A lot of mistakes to take himself out over the last few years. Now hitting his team mate and wrecking both cars. Ferrari might buy him out of his remaining contract just to put Giovinazzi in the car. Leclerc has shown he has the pace to be the #1 at Ferrari. Still needs to learn a bit about tactics and racecraft, but it's pretty obvious he isn't going to learn it from Seb.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:06 PM   #842
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Vettel was good when the entire team works for him and build him a car for his needs.
Vettel can´t adapt his driving on a car when he isn´t feeling comfortable.
Vettle failed with Ferrari like Alonso, his time is over.
But Binotto is too weak for tough decisions.
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:17 PM   #843
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I want to see Ricciardo at Ferrari. Gio is meh.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:02 PM   #844
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I want to see Ricciardo at Ferrari. Gio is meh.
Ricciardo is only another overhyped driver
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:20 PM   #845
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Ricciardo is only another overhyped driver
hmm, not sure I've heard that take before

dude **** all over vettel when they were on the same team


2018 his car never worked, he barely finished half the races
2017 he beat out max - only had one less retirement than max, but the point difference at the end of the year is more than a race win

I'd probably put him 3rd.

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Old 11-20-2019, 04:25 PM   #846
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Ricciardo is only another overhyped driver
Maybe. He came in at RBR and pushed Vettel while Seb was in his prime. He was running pretty well with Max at RBR, and we've seen how much better Max is than any other F1 driver RBR has stuffed in the team car this season. The fact that Ricciardo isn't any faster than Hulk this season might be down to the car. It's so average that both drivers are able to extract 100% of the available potential from it. We don't all honestly believe that Giovinazzi on a rookie season is better than Kimi, right? But both are good enough to get 100% out of the Alfa/Sauber/Taurine whatever it's called. Same with Haas and Williams. Both cars are so poor that both drivers manage to get everything out of them with relative ease. So both drivers look equal. The only humor in the mid-bottom of the field is Stroll. RP knows they have a mid-pack car, but only one driver manages to get everything out of it. Stroll can't even get 100% out of an average car.

If RP wanted more points and more money they'd ditch Stroll and pick up Hulk. Should have kept Ocon.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:28 PM   #847
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Hamilton, Verstappen, Leclerc
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Sainz, Norris, Ricciardo
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the rest
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Stroll, Kubica

edit: Hülkenberg is another overhyped driver, the last race showed it again, will not be missed
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:47 PM   #848
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I'd swap Leclerc and Ricciardo... for now at least. Leclerc will be good, but he still makes rookie mistakes. Max did the same thing. Maybe next year I'd change my mind but ya otherwise I pretty much agree.


Stroll is better than Kubica though I'd toss Grossjeans down there at the bottom tier, too.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:51 PM   #849
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Hulkenberg is overhyped, now I've heard everything.
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