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Old 01-21-2004, 02:58 AM   #1
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:31 PM   #2
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First i must say that MPJ performance and Nino's auto accessories are GREAT places to do business.

The Perrin products may be good, but their customer service and warranty suck. I first ordered a Perrin Up-pipe, i/c hoses, turbo inlet, catch can from MPJ performance. When I opened the catch can it was missing the hardware that holds down the catch can. I contacted MPJ and they got it out to me asap. Awsome! Then I noticed I was missing the 2 plastic fittings that connect the catch can to the engine. I notified MPJ and they told me to deal directly with Perrin because they would know exactly what I needed. So I told them I did not recieve the 2 plastic fittings and they said ok, they would send them out. 2 weeks go by and still nothing, so I shoot them another Email. They say they were sent out, and gave me a old tracking number. They did not believe me that I did not get those fittings. It took another 2 weeks to get those fittings. Over a month of BS for parts that may cost a dollar. (auto shops and home improvement stores did not have the fittings, I checked there first so I didnt have to "bother" Perrin)
After their lack of customer service, I said i was done buying Perrin Products. Before this experience, I was considering their DP, exhaust, fuel rails, and brakes. Not anymore.
A few months have passed and I was looking on www.NASIOC.com in the vendor forums area and found that Nino's auto accessories was getting rid of all their Perrin stuff. They had the radiator hoses for a great deal, so I went against my origional plan and ordered them because the Samco hoses are a different shade/color. But that would be the last thing I got from Perrin. So the hoses arrive and I drain the radiator and buy all new antifreeze, go to put the upper hose on it goes on fine, then the lower hose...its about an inch to short. I call up Nino and tell him and he said to deal with Perrin because he doesnt sell Perrin anymore. He thought it would be easier. So I shoot Perrin a email and they dont want to do anything about it. They said to send it back to Nino or cancel the payment and screw Nino. I told Nino about this and he said to just send them back to him and he would try to resolve the issue. So me living in Nevada, I had to send the hoses back to NJ, so Nino could send them to Oregon to Perrin, they send them back to Nino, then Nino sends them to me in NV.
Perrin has not tried to make any of this easier. Their customer service sucks. They take your money and dont stand behind their product. Its like pulling teeth to get them to fix their problem. I now see why Nino's auto accessories does not sell Perrin Products anymore. There are more alternatives out their besides Perrin and I will go with them from now on.

ps. Im still waiting for my Radiator hoses.

UPDATE::: well Perrin finally sent my hoses back, and guess what??? they sent me the same exact ones back! At least send me new ones to show me that that might be just the way they are, not leave me wondering if the rest of the hoses are longer.

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Old 02-06-2004, 05:35 PM   #3
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I recently installed the Perrin Performance up-pipe on my '04 WRX. I chose the Perrin unit for the following reasons:

1) No EGT bung. It comes packaged with a resistor, which, IMHO is better solution.

2) I found a reasonable price on it.

3) I found that others had nothing but good things to say about this product.

Overall, I honestly didn't feel all that much difference in spool time right away... however, that's not to say that the performance gains are not there. I haven't been to the track, but my car is definately quicker than it was stock!

I would rate the installation of this product as "challanging". Meaning, I wanted to bang my head against the wall before we were done. Having an extra person to help me proved very useful.

All in all, I'm satisified... however I will be replacing it when I install my GPmoto 4-2-1 header, because it replaces the up-pipe as a single unit.
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Old 02-08-2004, 02:07 PM   #4
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I have one two. I also did'nt notice much of a difference, Mabey slightly better spool up. But it is safer than the stock catted one.
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Old 02-11-2004, 10:58 PM   #5
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damn.. after reading this makes me think twice about their products. i was going to get the downpipe, up-pipe.. ohh well...
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Old 02-11-2004, 11:12 PM   #6
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yeah me too, their products are seem to be lil expensive..

I think i will go with cheap azz HKS pipe's..
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:46 AM   #7
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yeah me too, their products are seem to be lil expensive..

I think i will go with cheap azz HKS pipe's..
Get the new Stromung pipe
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Old 02-12-2004, 11:59 PM   #8
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Talking Review of Perrin Rear adj anti-sway and endlinks

Tonight, I decided to install my Perrin Rear adjustable anti-sway bar and Perrin Endlinks. It took my about 2 hours in the parking lot outside of my dorm here at the University of New Haven, lots of stares, quizzical looks and some comments while doing it from passerby students.

-The quality of the Perrin parts is just simply put, amazing. So much time and energy must have went into developing the endlinks, so a big thumbs up to Perrin.

-I Bought my parts from XXTuning here in Wethersfield CT. Great shop, great people, lots of goodies in stock there, I will be blowing my paychecks there for now on!

-The Install...
The install was very straight forward. I had installed a Whiteline antisway bar on my MY01 2.5RS with upgraded mounts and Kartboy drop links so I was familiar with the procedure
-I just jacked the rear of the car up fully so the wheels were not supported and removed them. Then I just removed all the factory sway bar mounts and endlink bolts. The only tricky part is on the passenger side where you have to manuvuer around the fuel filler pipe line. And also, actually getting the bar off of the car without removing the muffler.

-The results...
I can't be more pleased. I took my car to an open lot and no more understeer! It was very very neutral on the lowest setting with stock RE-92's... In a few weeks, I"ll be putting back on my Kumho Ecsta MX's on my Rota SDR's. I probably can position the sway bar in the middle position with those tires. But... The sway bar is doing a spectacular job, it's very quick to react when compared to a rubber bushing in endlinks.

BTW, I don't have any noise coming from any of the parts as some others have mentioned on this board. I have also driven over a speed bump at varying speeds and angles and I have no problems with noise. (Of course I wasn't flying over the speed bump more like up to 5-6 mph. It's in front of the Campus Police department with a stop sign shortly there after)

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Old 02-13-2004, 11:15 AM   #9
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I have to agree with you. I put mine on last night (but with the NOLTEC endlinks). Somewhat of a PITA to put in, I did drop the muffler (removed hangers) so it was easier to get the bar in, but holy cow what an improvement in handling. I give it 6 thumbs up.
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Old 02-13-2004, 01:34 PM   #10
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interesting, I have a 04 wrx with the rear Perrin adjustable sway bar, not end links though. It hits my stock exhaust when I go over decently sized bumps. This is on the middle setting too. I dont think I can even use the weakest setting without it hitting my exhaust all the time. I have been under my car a bunch have adjusted it as much as I can so I dont think it is a install problem.

You have stock exhaust or aftermarket?

Or it could be the endlinks positioning it different then my stock endlinks?

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P.S. Probably going to get the Perrin front sway bar, at the middle setting with the stock front sway bar their is a bit too much oversteer and it comes on suddenly. Want it a bit more neurtal but the handling is a lot better then the stock setup.
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Old 02-13-2004, 01:59 PM   #11
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I have an aftermarket (TXS RFL) exhaust on my wagon, and due to the almost straight pipe leading into the grapefruit launching muffler theres a lot of clearance. I have my bar set to the lowest setting (20mm). I don't know if theres much of a difference between the NOLTEC endlinks and the Perrin's though.
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Old 02-13-2004, 10:17 PM   #12
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interesting, I have a 04 wrx with the rear Perrin adjustable sway bar, not end links though. It hits my stock exhaust when I go over decently sized bumps. This is on the middle setting too. I dont think I can even use the weakest setting without it hitting my exhaust all the time. I have been under my car a bunch have adjusted it as much as I can so I dont think it is a install problem.

You have stock exhaust or aftermarket?

Or it could be the endlinks positioning it different then my stock endlinks?

thanks


P.S. Probably going to get the Perrin front sway bar, at the middle setting with the stock front sway bar their is a bit too much oversteer and it comes on suddenly. Want it a bit more neurtal but the handling is a lot better then the stock setup.
I have the stock exhaust. I do hear some noise emmanating from the rear but not over large bumps, but just over expansion joints on the highway. I attriubte that to transmited road noise through the bearings since there is basically absolutely no play in the endlinks anymore. Do you have any marks on the bar or exhaust? I don't yet but I will post back in a few days.

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Old 02-14-2004, 12:15 PM   #13
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I have the stock exhaust. I do hear some noise emmanating from the rear but not over large bumps, but just over expansion joints on the highway. I attriubte that to transmited road noise through the bearings since there is basically absolutely no play in the endlinks anymore. Do you have any marks on the bar or exhaust? I don't yet but I will post back in a few days.

-Jason
no problems with expansion joints for me. Only clunks over big speed bumps and dips in the road. Used to be worse but I moved the sway bar as forward as I could where is mounts to the mounts. Initially I had it centered and it clunked a lot more. It is ok to me but I would like you use the smallest setting of the bar because the middle seems a bit too much oversteer for me.

There where some marks at the bar next to the exhaust. ALso when I put it up on the rino ramps it is very close to the exhaust.

I am going back under my car again to make sure I cannot figure anything else out. If I cannot move it to the smallest setting then I am going to get a new front sway bar so I can be 22mm front/24mm rear.

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Old 02-14-2004, 02:10 PM   #14
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just got back from my garage....

my thinking was backwards, stiffer the setting the closer it is to my exhaust cansister. So I changed it to the weakest setting, no clunks and I feel better setting to match the stock front sway bar Still can get oversteer but it seems more progressive and less abrupt then the middle setting I willl try it out next week at a auto-x
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Old 02-14-2004, 06:40 PM   #15
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Got my rear Perrin on the stiffest setting with the PolTec adjustable links, plenty of clearence now.. the Perrin links were too long.
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Old 02-17-2004, 02:39 AM   #16
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Now I know why Nino stopped dealing with them, I think.
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Old 02-17-2004, 08:06 AM   #17
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i still like their products :T
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Old 02-25-2004, 04:47 PM   #18
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This is mike from Rallitek. I have to put in my 02.
As a retailer we deal with the public and we deal with Perrin.
The Retailer should handle this stuff for their customer if they care about service. Then deal with the manuf for the customer.
I mean your Subaru dealer handles stuff for you they don't make you contact Fuji Heavy for service.
Perrin are great guys and they care about a quality product. If your after sale service is not good, I would think that falls to the retailer to handle. Then as a vendor the retailer can decide whether a manufacturer is providing them with good customer service.
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Rallitek, I was going to say the same thing. It is Nino who is to blame here not Perrin. Wether he still sells the stuff or not, he sold it to you so he has to deal with it. Perrin on the otherhand should have better customer service, or they may not be setup to deal directly with customers. Nino is at fault, he passed the buck.
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Just an update... (lol i know that it's been a while but thought I would let everyone know how things are going)

The clunking noise that I had is now gone as I have purchased and installed a Stromung Cat-back exhaust and that prevents the muffler canister from touching the d/s mount. Also, I now have a little bit of a squeek coming from the bar, I think that i just need to relube the inside of the mounting bushings with some more sythetic grease. Other than that, no problems! The drop links are fine (althought the P/S has some light marks on it from something) and I haven't tried to straighten them, I just let them lay where they want to be. I have the bar now on the Middle position being that I have installed my summer tires.

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I have the same setup.. Perrin Adj. Rear Sway + Perrin End Links... purchased from www.speedmonkee.com . I love the setup... I had a clunking sound after their first auto-x but that was due to an end link bolt coming loose. Some nice torquing of it and that problem was fixed. I love hte setup... really neutralized the car's feel.
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Old 06-29-2004, 10:44 PM   #22
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I just finished installing my Perrin adj.rear swaybar and Noltec endlinks and my swaybar is hitting the exhaust hanger. I have a Perrin downpipe going to a Greddy Evo catback. It looks like I need to bend the exhaust hanger on the muffler towards to front of the car to gain the clearance necessary. Other than that, everything fits well.
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Old 07-08-2004, 03:28 PM   #23
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If you add the Kartboy exhaust hangers ($25 for 4) it will stop any banging of the exhaust against the Perrin sway bar. But dont let the banging issue bother you, the sway bar/end links is a must buy for those with a wagon.

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Old 07-13-2004, 12:48 PM   #24
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You guys are mentioning noise from the rear sway bars. I put a Whiteline sway bar in the front of my 04 WRX. There suddenly is a creaking noise coming out of the frontm right. I checked the installation and it looks fine. Anyone have any idea. I still have the stock end links.
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did you make sure to grease the bushings really good, that could be your problem.
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