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Old 10-28-2018, 06:01 PM   #1
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Hello everyone,

I will be moving to SoCal around Riverside County beginning of next year, I just spent the whole summer in that area working but without my 05 STI. I have lived in Florida all my life and we do not have any type of regulations when it comes to emissions or exhausts, you can literally drive your car with the an exhaust straight pipe coming right out of the hood (this of course is not my case). I have a catless downpipe and a Mikey Botti (Phatbotti tuning) tune on my car. Will I be able to pass the smog test? Do they look at the parts to check for cats see if they meet standards? I've never had to do this so I'm very lost. Also will buying a aftermarket catted downpipe fix the issue if i am not able to pass?

I did a couple of searches on google but nothing very concrete, mostly people trying to cheat the system with conflicting comments.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post, your help is very much appreciated.
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Old 10-28-2018, 06:04 PM   #2
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At the minimum, you'll need a stock DP, a CARB approved intake, and no cells.
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Old 10-28-2018, 06:19 PM   #3
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Yes they will visually inspect first, so you won't pass the visual inspection. You'll need OEM or CARB approved intake and exhaust system.

There are some "smog guys" who may be able to help you pass though.

Also, because of the rise of take over meets in Southern California, cops are pulling over modded cars and checking for illegal mods, and sending you to a state ref. You'll have to either make your car completely stock and bring it to be inspected, or pay the fine which is about $500 I think. Something to keep in mind. You'll probably be fine if you don't speed and just drive normal, but I've heard of people getting pulled over when driving slow according to them, but who really knows.
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:05 PM   #4
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Pretty disappointing to find out but thank you guys very much for the input.
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:13 PM   #5
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It would be easier just to keep your Florida registration...
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:09 PM   #6
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Pretty disappointing to find out but thank you guys very much for the input.
Yeah sorry. :/ I'm super bummed about it. We used to be able to mod our cars and not have any problems. It's because of those ****asses like supercarsuspects that things are like this.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:19 AM   #7
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Pretty disappointing to find out but thank you guys very much for the input.
Dude if you're smart about it you won't get into trouble. They have always have looked for modified cars since the 80s as for smog, exhaust doesn't make a difference anything after the cat doesnt matter. Just have a stock cat and a stock intake an you will be fine
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Old 11-05-2018, 10:47 PM   #8
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Dude if you're smart about it you won't get into trouble. They have always have looked for modified cars since the 80s as for smog, exhaust doesn't make a difference anything after the cat doesnt matter. Just have a stock cat and a stock intake an you will be fine
Yup, if you're an adult and don't drive like a jackass you won't be targeted. Back in the 90's and early 00's that wasn't the case. First, Hondas had big bullseyes on them and were cop magnets, then Subaru's kinda had the same thing but by that point cops started to care less as the tuner crowd got older and modded cars were more ubiquitous.

Get a cat and approved parts and you won't have a problem. Plus, why not have a cat? Everyone that lives here benefits from strict smog laws - i.e. smog isn't nearly as bad as it could be. I even have a cat on my track car (it isn't visually legal but passes the sniffer).
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:24 PM   #9
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Yup, if you're an adult and don't drive like a jackass you won't be targeted. Back in the 90's and early 00's that wasn't the case. First, Hondas had big bullseyes on them and were cop magnets, then Subaru's kinda had the same thing but by that point cops started to care less as the tuner crowd got older and modded cars were more ubiquitous.



Get a cat and approved parts and you won't have a problem. Plus, why not have a cat? Everyone that lives here benefits from strict smog laws - i.e. smog isn't nearly as bad as it could be. I even have a cat on my track car (it isn't visually legal but passes the sniffer).


Ahh, the early 00’s ...
If you had a modded import life was rough. I got so good at looking in the rear view I practically didn’t need a windshield lol.

Seems like nowadays we got youngsters rolling around with straight pipes without a care in the world!
Back in the day we wouldn’t dare roll around un-corked.

With the street racing scene tapering off and the “low & slow” crowd moving in. I guess cops eased off the pressure. ..
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:44 PM   #10
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Ahh, the early 00’s ...
If you had a modded import life was rough. I got so good at looking in the rear view I practically didn’t need a windshield lol.

Seems like nowadays we got youngsters rolling around with straight pipes without a care in the world!
Back in the day we wouldn’t dare roll around un-corked.

With the street racing scene tapering off and the “low & slow” crowd moving in. I guess cops eased off the pressure. ..
yeah but little do they know that a non catted setup will land you in court and a 1000 fine and cops these days seem to be a little more wise to whats going on
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:57 AM   #11
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Straight pipe isn't as risky as you would think well that's according to me but you should just run the cats it's better as smog is already bad here as it is
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:45 PM   #12
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Fun story about when I was smoging my 78 Brat. It had an aftermarket Off-road only carb on it. The 'tech' spent 2 hours looking up my car in dictionary sized books to try to figure out if the exhaust was OEM or not. It had a dual exhaust on it with Cats on each pipe & mufflers, which was all aftermarket. The original exhaust was only a single exit with NO cat. After about 3 hours he finally passed the 'visual' inspection.

As long as you properly tune the carb it will be as clean or as dirty as you want it to be. It was spot on, clean and the computer was happy.

Cliffnotes: CA is a terrible place to own an old car that isn't quite old enough, or to be pro car modding.
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Old 12-10-2018, 12:14 PM   #13
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Knock on wood I haven't been bothered by cops in many years of driving. I've only got one aftermarket cat and it used to pass the sniffer no problem.

The computer-only test is even nicer!
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:47 PM   #14
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what/where is the computer only test? As in they won't do a visual?
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:06 AM   #15
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what/where is the computer only test? As in they won't do a visual?
Pretty sure the visual is still done on all cars. By computer only I think he means that newer (05+, someone correct me if I'm wrong) is only hooked to the computer for a diagnostic check and sniffed at idle and 2500rpm, no roller test required.

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Old 01-10-2019, 11:09 AM   #16
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Pretty sure the visual is still done on all cars. By computer only I think he means that newer (05+, someone correct me if I'm wrong) is only hooked to the computer for a diagnostic check and sniffed at idle and 2500rpm, no roller test required.
No sniffing. Just visual and OBD test.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:36 AM   #17
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I stand corrected, thanks.
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