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Old 01-06-2019, 07:06 AM   #1
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Erste Infos zum neuen GTI
2019 kommt der VW Golf 8 auf den Markt. Damit bekommt natürlich auch die sportliche Version des Golf, der GTI, eine neue Basis. Optisch wird sich der neue Golf-Sportler traditionell in einigen Punkten vom Serien-Golf abheben: Modifizierte Stoßstangen mit großen Lufteinlässen und der schmale Kühlergrill mit rotem Dekor sind auch beim Golf Nummer acht Pflicht. Am Heck werden weiterhin ein Dachkantenspoiler und eine zweiflutige Abgasanlage den GTI kennzeichnen. Im Innenraum erhält natürlich auch der GTI die nächste Generation des Modularen Infotainment Baukastens (MIB), AUTO BILD rechnet mit volldigitalen Instrumenten. Dabei könnten im GTI auch Sonderfunktionen verfügbar sein: Ein Lap-Timer und Anzeigen zur Querbeschleunigung liegen sehr nahe.
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Auch der GTI bekommt ein volldigitales Cockpit. Die typischen GTI-Insignien (Karomuster und rote Akzente) werden wohl nicht fehlen.

Mit 245 PS könnte bereits die kleinere Motorisierung des GTI gut im Futter stehen. Wer mehr Leistung will, der greift auf den GTI Performance zurück, der es auf bis zu 300 PS bringen könnte. Generiert werden die Pferdestärken, wie auch schon beim Vorgänger, durch einen Vierzylinder-Turbomotor. Der aktuelle GTI startet in der 245 PS starken Performance-Ausführung bei rund 33.600 Euro. Nachdem VW bekannt gab, dass der Golf 8 nicht teurer als der aktuelle Golf 7 werden soll, wird wohl auch der GTI preislich stabil bleiben. AUTO BILD vermutet daher, dass der VW Golf 8 GTI bei rund 33.000 Euro starten wird. Der Marktstart des GTI dürfte dann bereits ins Jahr 2020 fallen.
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First information about the new GTI

2019 comes the VW Golf 8 on the market. Of course, the sporty version of the Golf, the GTI, gets a new base. Visually, the new golf athlete will traditionally stand out in a few points from the series Golf: Modified bumpers with large air intakes and the narrow grille with red decor are also the golf number eight duty. At the rear, a roof spoiler and a double-flow exhaust system will continue to mark the GTI. In the interior, of course, the GTI receives the next generation of Modular Infotainment Modular System (MIB), How To Cars reckons with fully digital instruments. Special functions could also be available in the GTI: a lap timer and lateral acceleration indicators are very close.

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Also, the GTI gets a fully digital cockpit. The typical GTI insignia (checked pattern and red accents) will not be missing.

With 245 hp could already be the smaller engine of the GTI well in the feed. If you want more power, you can rely on the GTI performance, which could bring it up to 300 hp. The horsepower is generated by a four-cylinder turbocharged engine, just like its predecessor. The current GTI starts in the 245-hp performance version at around 33,600 euros. After VW announced that the Golf 8 should not be more expensive than the current Golf 7, probably the GTI will remain stable in price. How To Cars therefore suspects that the VW Golf 8 GTI will start at around 33,000 euros. The market launch of the GTI is expected to fall as early as 2020.

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Motorization in the Golf 8 GTI
VW Golf VIII GTI illustration
Also, the GTI gets a fully digital cockpit. The typical GTI insignia (checked pattern and red accents) will not be missing.

With 245 hp could already be the smaller engine of the GTI well in the feed. If you want more power, you can rely on the GTI performance, which could bring it up to 300 hp. The horsepower is generated by a four-cylinder turbocharged engine, just like its predecessor. The current GTI starts in the 245-hp performance version at around 33,600 euros. After VW announced that the Golf 8 should not be more expensive than the current Golf 7, probably the GTI will remain stable in price. How To Cars therefore suspects that the VW Golf 8 GTI will start at around 33,000 euros. The market launch of the GTI is likely to fall as early as 2020.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:29 AM   #2
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A fully digital cockpit!!!
Ohhhh Ahhhhh
I have the digital dash. It's pretty nice. They didn't go over the top with animation. Cool to be able to pull nav maps up into the cluster.
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I wonder if in ten years today's digital dashes will be as appealing as a ten year old smart phone. Will we look at them, chuckle and say "maaaan, that looks so dated."
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I wonder if in ten years today's digital dashes will be as appealing as a ten year old smart phone. Will we look at them, chuckle and say "maaaan, that looks so dated."
What dash doesn't look dated in 10 years?
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I wonder if in ten years today's digital dashes will be as appealing as a ten year old smart phone. Will we look at them, chuckle and say "maaaan, that looks so dated."
It looks no different than an analog cluster aside from a lack of dimension, so... about the same as any cluster... having one myself, I'm more concerned about reliability of the screen itself and replacement cost target than it "aging".


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Dude, my 2016 R’s infotainment screen is dated. The current ones look nice.

That’s how they get people to simply “trade in” their vehicle to get the latest tech.

News of the obvious.
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It looks no different than an analog cluster aside from a lack of dimension, so... about the same as any cluster... having one myself, I'm more concerned about reliability of the screen itself and replacement cost target than it "aging".


I looked it up, the complete digital cluster is about $1,200. The mk7 analog cluster is about the same price.
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Why did they still include a row of old fashioned idiot lights across the top of the fully digital cockpit? Seems kind of stupid....
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Dude, my 2016 R’s infotainment screen is dated. The current ones look nice.

That’s how they get people to simply “trade in” their vehicle to get the latest tech.

News of the obvious.
GM is marketing the F out of their new tail gate. I’m sure that marketing will work on many people. They’ll spend thousands and thousands trading in just to get a new tail gate.
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Why did they still include a row of old fashioned idiot lights across the top of the fully digital cockpit? Seems kind of stupid....
That confused me as well. I surmise it might have to do with having safety related lights still work in the event of a failure of the screen.
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I wonder if in ten years today's digital dashes will be as appealing as a ten year old smart phone. Will we look at them, chuckle and say "maaaan, that looks so dated."
I don't think so, when you consider Apple's new phones are flopping. At some point you can't improve things much.
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Why did they still include a row of old fashioned idiot lights across the top of the fully digital cockpit? Seems kind of stupid....
That's for when the digital cockpit fails.

If my Civic dash can fail, i'm sure VW's can.
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I looked it up, the complete digital cluster is about $1,200. The mk7 analog cluster is about the same price.
Bottom one looks better to me.

Kind of like Star Wars movies or Independence Day, the physical model ships still look better.
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Bottom one looks better to me.

Kind of like Star Wars movies or Independence Day, the physical model ships still look better.
My point was more that it's not like they're trying to do anything futuristic like the videos posted earlier.

Don't get me wrong though, the digital dash was one of the things that made me hesitant to get the R. I disliked it completely until I started driving with it. If I didn't have the car, I'd probably be saying the same thing as you. But it's proven to be pretty cool.
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Wish my GTI had it....
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Wish my GTI had it....
it retrofits fairly easily with some coding and a fiber optic splitter for nav.
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My point was more that it's not like they're trying to do anything futuristic like the videos posted earlier.

Don't get me wrong though, the digital dash was one of the things that made me hesitant to get the R. I disliked it completely until I started driving with it. If I didn't have the car, I'd probably be saying the same thing as you. But it's proven to be pretty cool.
I want it too, for all the cool displays. Just meant aesthetically the analog one looks better.
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I want it too, for all the cool displays. Just meant aesthetically the analog one looks better.
I like the hybrid route Porsche has taken with their latest clusters. Analog tach in the middle with digital on the sides. In a new vehicle, I'd be fine with the digital. In a used vehicle, I'd be a bit more apprehensive due to the higher risk of failure vs analog. Then again, the tach in my Prelude from back in the day was off by about 800 by the time it reached "6k" RPM, lol.
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Dude, my 2016 R’s infotainment screen is dated. The current ones look nice.

That’s how they get people to simply “trade in” their vehicle to get the latest tech.

News of the obvious.
IMO, I don't feel the infotanment screen is dated. I like the looks of it. If you were to say the 2015, then yes. But I'm quite content with my 2016 R's screen.

On a different note, I really like that they are doing this. I've been eyeing up the B9 S5 SB and I really like the new digital cockpit.
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I don't think so, when you consider Apple's new phones are flopping. At some point you can't improve things much.
I think their pricing strategy is killing the market. People are perfectly happy keeping their 6s or 7s instead of plunking down $1k for an incrementally upgraded top of the line phone every year.

I don't see the next GTI coming with 300 hp. It's too close to R territory(and S3). My prediction is you'll see a modest bump to 260-270 or so to be on par with the WRX.
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I think their pricing strategy is killing the market. People are perfectly happy keeping their 6s or 7s instead of plunking down $1k for an incrementally upgraded top of the line phone every year.

I don't see the next GTI coming with 300 hp. It's too close to R territory(and S3). My prediction is you'll see a modest bump to 260-270 or so to be on par with the WRX.
^^^ Agreed. Iphone pricing is whats killing them and granted, innovation has slowed but people are always willing to pay for the newest phone if it's within reason. Lets not forget that phones use to be heavily subsidized through providers. Every year or two you could get the new one for $80 plus tax if you renewed your contract for 2 years. That all went away.
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^^^ Agreed. Iphone pricing is whats killing them and granted, innovation has slowed but people are always willing to pay for the newest phone if it's within reason. Lets not forget that phones use to be heavily subsidized through providers. Every year or two you could get the new one for $80 plus tax if you renewed your contract for 2 years. That all went away.
Not it didn’t. I just upgraded phones a few months ago and my carrier gave me $450 off the new phone. It’s still there you just have to fight for it via CS and retention. It remains they just don’t advertise it.
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Not it didn’t. I just upgraded phones a few months ago and my carrier gave me $450 off the new phone. It’s still there you just have to fight for it via CS and retention. It remains they just don’t advertise it.
To the majority of people, its gone away. Most people don't attempt to haggle with phones just like most people dont try to haggle car sales or leases. If its not being advertised, technically its gone away. Also $450 off of a $800+ phone still doesn't equal paying $80 plus tax for a new iphone with 2 year renewal.
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I'm on a corporate phone plan and we still have the 2 year upgrades for like 100 bucks. I upgrade every 2 years.
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