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Old Yesterday, 03:39 PM   #1926
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Old Yesterday, 04:12 PM   #1927
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If all that plastic means the base WRX comes in at low-to-mid $20k, then fine. Have at it. $23k would be my price.
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Old Yesterday, 04:53 PM   #1928
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Meanwhile, in Death Valley...
Can it really be that hot at 5:30 A.M. even in Death Valley?
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Old Yesterday, 04:55 PM   #1929
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More pics and a quick ride from C&D:


https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...baru-wrx-ride/

"On paper, the performance specs aren't much different than before: The new 2.4-liter turbo flat-four only makes three more horsepower than the old 2.0-liter, arriving at the same 5600 rpm. The torque peak of 258 pound-feet is unchanged. Yet there's no denying the feeling of more thrust as we move down the straight."
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Old Yesterday, 05:22 PM   #1930
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The 2022 Subaru WRX Is All Grown-up with Places to Go
A brief ride reveals Subaru's rally-bred favorite is more polished, still edgy.
Who wrote this drivel? Is it Opposite Day in Cliche Land?
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Old Yesterday, 08:00 PM   #1931
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Viziv concept from 2017 vs 2022 WRX:

Everyone: Subaru should produce the viziv concept!
Subaru: OK here…
Same people: wahwahblackplasticfenderswahwah
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Old Yesterday, 08:11 PM   #1932
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IIRC, most everyone on here was neutral at best on the concept car. We all commented on the black arches and most of us weren't fans. I don't think any of us thought Subaru would actually follow through with the concept design, especially the arches.

A few issues are that the concept arches have a nice finish to them and the brake vents look more functional (larger). Plus there's less wheel gap and the wheels are large enough to fill out the space better.

2022 WRX with dark window tint, lowered, larger wheels with a two-tone finish, and you might sway a few people.
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Old Yesterday, 08:26 PM   #1933
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They came pretty close to making their concept car. The more I look at it, the more it’s growing on me. Tint and a mild drop are a given. 18s are plenty big. If they massage some extra grunt out of the engine for the mid-cycle refresh I’ll seriously consider it even if the looks don’t change at all.
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Old Yesterday, 08:35 PM   #1934
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Everyone has their preference, but I was just pointing out a few reasons why people might specifically hate the production 2022 WRX vs the concept.

I also just noticed that the concept has brake vents in the rear arch too.

Subaru tends to do this where the concept car is kind of extreme, but it's exactly what they want and cohesive in its design, so it doesn't look too bad. It looks acceptable. But then we get to the production car where compromises have to be made, and so many compromises are made that the only thing left from the concept vehicle is the basic greenhouse or silhouette. The proportions get thrown off, resulting in strong, negative reactions, and then Subaru (and others who like the design regardless) seem confused about why people aren't into the production design.
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Old Yesterday, 08:43 PM   #1935
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Yeah it's more grown up.
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Old Yesterday, 09:51 PM   #1936
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Yeah chop two inches off the top, two inches off the front, 3 inches off the rear, lower and widen 2 inches, and increase wheel diameter 3 inches, put the exhaust where the reflectors are, take off some mirrors and door handles and window trim. Voila! you got a spitting image of the VIZIV.

All of these things make the VIZIV concept attractive so we don't focus on the actual look of the black bits everywhere. The ENTIRE PACKAGE is more aggressive so those elements make sense. These are designer tricks. When engineers and beancounters are thrown into making the car we get the thing that forces us to deal with the reality of how those elements really look on a car. And right now an overwhelming amount of people have completely forgotten the VIZIV and are forced to deal with the thing as a product.
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Old Yesterday, 09:52 PM   #1937
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Yeah chop two inches off the top, two inches off the front, 3 inches off the rear, lower and widen 2 inches, and increase wheel diameter 3 inches, put the exhaust where the reflectors are, take off some mirrors and door handles and window trim. Voila! you got a spitting image of the VIZIV.

All of these things make the VIZIV concept attractive so we don't focus on the actual look of the black bits everywhere. The ENTIRE PACKAGE is more aggressive so those elements make sense. These are designer tricks. When engineers and beancounters are thrown into making the car we get the thing that forces us to deal with the reality of how those elements really look on a car. And right now an overwhelming amount of people have completely forgotten the VIZIV and are forced to deal with the thing as a product.
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Old Yesterday, 10:12 PM   #1938
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So when’s the STI slated for reveal?
Tokyo Auto Salon in January?
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Old Yesterday, 10:51 PM   #1939
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Are you even a human being? How can you never fault Subaru for making mistakes. Its like a disease almost you can't seem to fix. The last gen sti didn't win one comparison test. NOT ONE. Let that sink in. Everybody is tired of ur ridiculous statements it's like your a robot -


because its not a mistake when they have improved everything with 2022's over the outgoing 2015+ Gen. They actually didn't make the mistake of making it a hatch, so there is that. I Think the 2022's look fantastic. It makes the current Gen look boring as fk' by comparison. The mechanicals, the chassis and the suspension are all better and improvements over the current outgoing gen. The black trim is nothing, looks good to me actually, it fits the theme of the car they are going for. Very smart actually because it makes the car edgy again wich they had lost that aspect ever since the GD.


I think it was motor trend ? That drove an S209 and A GT500 through a 25 mile stretch of road in California in varying conditions and speeds chasing and they liked the STI better. Thats 1. There were many more...you just ignored them.

edit*. it was Road and Track that praised the S209 over the GT500...and they drove them for 100 miles chasing not just 25. Article below. But spoiler alert this is my favorite paragraph from it.....

"In the real world, the Subaru holds a few small advantages. Range, for one. By the time we tumbled into Yreka, the GT500's fuel light had been on for 50 miles, the dash showing a paltry 6 miles left. One more full-throttle run would have meant a long walk to town, but the STI still had a quarter tank to burn. The Subaru is also more practical, with four actual doors and a back seat with room for more than just empty cans of Red Bull. If you had to choose one of these to live with, day in and day out, the Subaru would be the only choice. It's functional family transportation that happens to enjoy running down 760-horse titans on its days off."
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-february-2020. https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...february-2020/

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Old Yesterday, 10:54 PM   #1940
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Everyone: Subaru should produce the viziv concept!
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Same people: wahwahblackplasticfenderswahwah

EXACTLY
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Old Yesterday, 11:12 PM   #1941
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What an ugly ass vehicle. I'll take the new BRZ over this any day.
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EXACTLY
From the VIZIV concept thread:

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It's going to be a CUV.
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A CUV isn't a sedan buddy.
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That's terrible.
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Thoughts:

1) Looks like a Volt.

2) Blast it with piss.

3) Hexagonal arches can diaf.
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I'm not into this


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It is a sedan, so it is complete and utter rubbish
There were people who thought wow they should make that and it won't look anything like it. But to say WE ALL WERE INTO IT AS A CONCEPT AND WE'VE CHANGED OUR BRAIN is not anywhere near exactly. Actually though we could have an out because that was like 4 years ago. Tastes change in 4 years. 4 years ago I never would have though I'd own a CUV.

I own a CUV.

I typed that.
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Old Today, 01:07 AM   #1943
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2) Blast it with piss.


Dude, my lemon carbonated water is coming out of my nose. Leave it to all people, 4S, to snatch that one in the DeLoreon. Oh f me,

I'm making a mental note and that one is going into my personal heckle bin right there. Oh I can't wait to use it on someone.

I'm imagining we all pitch in some dollars. Just a few bucks a piece. I know a few .mil guys in the AF. I wish we could all chip in, and rent a C130, and fill it with our piss. Pay to have it fly over Tom Doll's house and blast it with piss!
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The truth is Subaru's bread and butter is Outbacks and Crosstreks, followed closely by the Forester.

They build this car, this 'WRX', for those buyers. They did not build it for the bugeye and 2.5RS fans. These people are older now and most of us were have grown up and moved on. They no longer have any real credible rally connection and the McRea and Burns years are nothing more than a distant memory now.

This is the WRX for Crosstrek buyers to move into. This is the WRX for Outback owners to have a 'fun' car that can follow their family into the woods to camp.

This is a pedestrian update and nothing more. But it was not meant to appeal to old school WRX fans. They are pushing a CVT now as a performance transmission. This is all you need to know about the direction Subaru is going. Anything you do not shift is less engaging. Just like a Crosstrek, Outback, Ascent, Forester.

They want the MT to go away. They want homogeneous model lines. They want fewer part counts, they want to granola the WRX to fit into the Wilderness mode.

This not a WRX like we all grew up with. It is a WRX for the people who are responsible for their new exploding sales numbers.


Kind of sums it all up pretty well to me, well said.

Also the “lower tier” infotainment looks like they ripped it off an old treadmill? What the hell is with all that bezel in such an awful color and material?

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Old Today, 05:39 AM   #1945
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I didn't realize 4S already made my point about the Viziv Concept vs the production car. So many posts in this thread that it's hard to keep up. My bad, dawg!
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Old Today, 07:30 AM   #1946
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Hyundai called and they want their wheel arches back.

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I stopped right there.

didn't realize Subarus are like vintage tube amplifiers, where every one is different. that speaks well to their quality control

i'll go test drive 10 of them and see if i can find a good one ...
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So when’s the STI slated for reveal?
Tokyo Auto Salon in January?
same time next year was the rumor
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