PhatBotti Tuning - Tuning FAQ & Misc Info - Page 19

Crazyced · 01-15-2016, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danger1138

I was reading the beginning of this thread and read info regarding spark plug indexing. I was curious as to why not index spark plugs so that the ground strap is at the 6 o'clock position as opposed to the 12 o'clock position. That way the ground strap is not in the way of the oncoming air from the intake valves. Wouldn't you want the electrode to be unobstructed from oncoming air charge and not have ground strap in the way?

It might actually be so that it shields the electrode, creating a low pressure area to better resist spark blowout. And/or to creates a tumbling effect that better atomize the fuel around the electrodes. Those are my guesses.

I have a question of my own. I have a Stage 2 WRX along with pink injectors. I tuned them myself using Cobbs Stage 3 injector tables as a base line.

I would like to have some pointer on how to tune part throttle accel. At certain loads and throttle input I seem to be running farely rich (~10.3) causing power loss. What AFR targets should I aim for at part throttle/loads? I assume it should be leaner then a WOT/peak boost? I'm trying to get a better powerband.

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Phatron · 01-15-2016, 01:13 PM

There isn't a set answer. The best way is to put your car on a dyno, make fueling changes and observe the gain/loss.

Crazyced · 01-15-2016, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatron

There isn't a set answer. The best way is to put your car on a dyno, make fueling changes and observe the gain/loss.

I was looking for a generally accepted ballpark, mostly from tuners that street/email tune. Like the 10.5-11.0 TMIC/11.0-11.5 FMIC WOT AFR ballparks.

Do tuners generally lean out part throttle compared to WOT with Subaru?

Phatron · 01-18-2016, 03:16 AM

Most tune fairly linear from cruise into peak boost

Crazyced · 01-18-2016, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatron

Most tune fairly linear from cruise into peak boost

Thank you, I will aim for that.

96SubyImpreza · 02-12-2016, 05:58 PM

Ron who the hell did you piss off to the point where this hasn't been stickied yet?

clark4131 · 03-02-2016, 12:37 AM

I just finished up my e-tune with Ron, and I have to say the experience was top notch. I did a lot of research and sent quite a few emails in my search for a tuner, and the depth in which Ron explained his tuning philosophy and process cemented my decision to go with Phatbotti. In just under a week, with 9 complete revisions to get everything just right, my car is running like a scalded cat, and that's just a Stage 1 tune. After a few thousand more miles, the TGV deletes and GrimmSpeed J-pipe will be going on, and I'll be giving Ron another call to get my Stage 2 running perfectly too. I honestly can't say enough about the process and final product. Well done, sir, well done!...SC

axbarron123 · 03-06-2016, 11:40 PM

Very nice write up!

bawse.c · 04-25-2016, 03:32 AM

Hi there,

Do you have any experience with Autometer wideband oxygen sensors? I was wondering how I can log the output if there is no plugin for it in Romraider. Thanks

Phatron · 05-16-2016, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96SubyImpreza

Ron who the hell did you piss off to the point where this hasn't been stickied yet?

who knows. I rarely even come on nasioc anymore these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bawse.c

Hi there,

Do you have any experience with Autometer wideband oxygen sensors? I was wondering how I can log the output if there is no plugin for it in Romraider. Thanks

Sorry, I don't. I don't really tune Opensource cars anymore....I just use my dyno wideband so i never really have to worry about drivers or cables or any of the common problems with logging widebands

Phatron · 05-16-2016, 11:47 PM

I did get my dyno room done after making this thread though

Nudzbone · 05-16-2016, 11:52 PM

Wow, like a recording studio. Looks amazing!!!

tekfoc · 05-17-2016, 05:24 PM

very impressive.

drifte · 05-17-2016, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatron

I did get my dyno room done after making this thread though

How does it sound? Gotta believe its a little easier on the ears than a typical concrete room. Looks great.

hekler · 07-05-2016, 12:37 AM

Bump as I am curious how this dyno room sounds with all the sound proofing?? Impressive!!

beef · 12-17-2016, 01:35 AM

I had the pleasure of seeing Ron's dyno last year, and it is absolutely amazing. I didn't get to hear how it sounded from inside the room, but it wasn't loud in the next room (lobby). He has a high quality camera system you can watch him tune your car on, while beautiful stripper's give you lapdances. Definitely the best dyno room ever, and he is one of the best tuners in the world.

LBC WRX · 03-14-2017, 06:40 AM

Awesome thread and dyno room looks good!

emozer · 06-14-2017, 12:08 AM

Hi guys, I see you have a quite a bit of experience with Five-0 injectors, so I believe you can help me out. I'm running a set of 026M1200 injectors in my setup but I'm never satisfied with the warm cranking. Usually it takes 3-4 cranks before it starts when warm, but the cold cranking in the morning is always perfect.
I have reduced cranking IPW at 86F and above to as low as 2.10ms but was not enough to fix it.
Do you guys have a particular latency you like to run on those injectors?

MasTuning · 07-18-2017, 10:31 AM

whats the progress on new generation Subaru WRX and STI through open source?

GlarryHoodDIT · 07-20-2017, 12:18 AM

E Tuned by Ron and I have nothing but outstanding and positive things to say about his work ethic and final product. Beat my Pro Tuner in every category. 5/5.

undyjr · 12-05-2017, 08:55 AM

I'm trying to buy a flex fuel e-tune does anyone have a link?

GlarryHoodDIT · 12-11-2017, 11:27 PM

Probably too late...

https://phatbottituning.com/contact

gabedude · 08-25-2020, 02:08 AM

copy paste, copy paste

WRBKevin · 11-26-2020, 10:58 PM

2018 WRX CVT. I'm curious to learn whether I can get crackles and pops with a tune? If so, would I additionally need a muffler delete? I have an STI SPT exhaust.

If so, would I be able to turn on and off of switch the tune at my discretion when I want the pops/crackles off/on?

12-17-2016, 01:35 AM	#466
beef Scooby Specialist Member#: 138895 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: ventura Vehicle: 2002 6266 Wrx Phatron Tuned	I had the pleasure of seeing Ron's dyno last year, and it is absolutely amazing. I didn't get to hear how it sounded from inside the room, but it wasn't loud in the next room (lobby). He has a high quality camera system you can watch him tune your car on, while beautiful stripper's give you lapdances. Definitely the best dyno room ever, and he is one of the best tuners in the world. Last edited by beef; 12-17-2016 at 01:38 AM. Reason: Sorry Ron..... Thought I was in the fuel pump thread. lol

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Phatron Scooby Guru Member#: 36033 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tuning Lab Vehicle: CEO PhatBottiTuning 2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth	Most tune fairly linear from cruise into peak boost

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axbarron123 Scooby Newbie Member#: 442021 Join Date: Mar 2016	Very nice write up!

04-25-2016, 03:32 AM	#459
bawse.c Scooby Newbie Member#: 336869 Join Date: Nov 2012	Hi there, Do you have any experience with Autometer wideband oxygen sensors? I was wondering how I can log the output if there is no plugin for it in Romraider. Thanks

05-16-2016, 11:47 PM	#461
Phatron Scooby Guru Member#: 36033 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tuning Lab Vehicle: CEO PhatBottiTuning 2006 STi GTX3582 + Meth	I did get my dyno room done after making this thread though

05-16-2016, 11:52 PM	#462
Nudzbone Scooby Newbie Member#: 151632 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: N. NJ Vehicle: 11' STi	Wow, like a recording studio. Looks amazing!!!

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tekfoc Scooby Specialist Member#: 21392 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NEW YORK CITY Vehicle: 2018 E63S AMG MB Black/MB	very impressive.

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hekler Scooby Specialist Member#: 388366 Join Date: Apr 2014 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: So Cal Vehicle: 2016 SUBARU WRX(cvt) CBS w/eyesight	Bump as I am curious how this dyno room sounds with all the sound proofing?? Impressive!!

03-14-2017, 06:40 AM	#467
LBC WRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 464417 Join Date: Mar 2017 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Long Beach, CA Vehicle: 2011 WRX Hatchback SWP	Awesome thread and dyno room looks good!

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07-18-2017, 10:31 AM	#469
MasTuning Scooby Newbie Member#: 260555 Join Date: Oct 2010	whats the progress on new generation Subaru WRX and STI through open source?

07-20-2017, 12:18 AM	#470
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12-05-2017, 08:55 AM	#471
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WRBKevin Scooby Newbie Member#: 517374 Join Date: Aug 2020	2018 WRX CVT. I'm curious to learn whether I can get crackles and pops with a tune? If so, would I additionally need a muffler delete? I have an STI SPT exhaust. If so, would I be able to turn on and off of switch the tune at my discretion when I want the pops/crackles off/on?