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07-10-2013, 09:32 PM | #576 |
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Welcome to the world of "push button pilots". Hand flying is becoming a dying breed, believe it or not. Instruments that were designed for landings in unfavorable weather conditions are now used as the staple for flight, even in clear blue and twenty-two. Lets not get started on autopilot. That's a battle that will not be won with fuel economy at stake.
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07-10-2013, 10:38 PM | #577 | |
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storming heaven was my first dale brown novel. It had nothing to do with mclanahan I believe. I picked it up because of the cover showing a 747 barreling towards the capitol. I always thought it odd that something like that never happened until 9/11, whereupon my first reaction was "it finally happened" |
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07-10-2013, 10:47 PM | #578 | |
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07-10-2013, 10:49 PM | #579 |
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07-10-2013, 10:56 PM | #580 |
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So....12 people from Greenville SC killed in AK plane crashes this year.
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07-10-2013, 10:59 PM | #581 |
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07-10-2013, 11:01 PM | #582 |
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Might as well turn this thread into the official aviation mishap thread.
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07-10-2013, 11:01 PM | #583 |
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Yeah two a month ago too.
Killing carolinians left and right up there! |
07-10-2013, 11:14 PM | #584 | |
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overwing exit and emer cabin exits slides are stored in the fuselage near the trailing edge of the wing and in the floor respectively Last edited by dorikin; 07-11-2013 at 06:45 AM. |
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07-10-2013, 11:17 PM | #585 |
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basically regional carriers being whipsawed to out-walmart each other for capacity purchase agreement contracts and everything that comes with that. cutting costs by any means necessary, commuting pilots on food stamps, duty day/rest issues, pressure to do everything cheaper in every department at every level to stay competitive.
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07-11-2013, 12:00 AM | #586 |
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Perhaps its best suited for a PM, but what do you think of the ATP requirement for 121 pilots now? (the final rule on it all just came out today)
Now that regionals can't hire pilots with wet commercials, there is a small argument that wages and quality of life will slightly be better under the new ruling. An ATP rated pilot is certainly worth some amount more than a 250 hour wonder, but if that's how it will play out, who knows. |
07-11-2013, 12:08 AM | #587 | |
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Some rule changes for you pilot folk.
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07-11-2013, 01:23 AM | #589 |
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Clicking automation, aka autothrottles, and then never watching your speed again is insane. Every pilot should be scanning airspeed all the time, especially on landing.
Just like you need to still check your speed when you think you have cruise control on when driving. |
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07-11-2013, 03:23 AM | #591 |
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07-11-2013, 07:42 AM | #592 |
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bit of a pandora's box. pilots are relying more on automation that in previous gen aircraft but i don't know if that should necessarily be taken pejoratively, it's simply a new reality. there's no denying that hands and feet flying is a perishable skill and you have to make a concerted effort to stay sharp (since there is no hand-flying in cruise due to RVSM). any overseas pilot flying 3 trips a month isn't going to fly the prettiest full procedure raw data NDB approach.
having the full magic on allows you to sit back and monitor the big picture with less workload having to be directed at maneuvering the airplane. imagine being the non flying pilot with someone who has decided to hand-bomb into a high density airport. their faculties are now directed strictly manipulating the controls while you're monitoring to make sure they're making level offs and staying between the lines. now you have to spin heading/alt bugs for them, read back clearances, run descent/in rng flows/checklists, get an updated ATIS, answer datalinks from company about your gate, liaise with the back end with the cabin snags they have written up, run the radar because of the cells in the arrival corridor... oh here's a runway change from atc, now you get to re-program the fms, re-brief the flying pilot, etc, etc. easy for something to get missed. you have a responsibility to the people in the back to decide what the safest way is to get the job done and hand-flying all over creation isn't necessarily the best answer. most accidents today stem from a lack of understanding of what the automation is doing. a couple of pages ago i made reference to some "traps" where the autothrust in certain situations could lead you down the garden path and it's interesting to me that the autothrottle issue is something the investigators are looking to unpack with the asiana crash. as a pilot you need to understand the short and long term goals of what the airplane needs to do and then further interpret whether or not the automation is a help or a hinderance. if you put the pilots of air france 447 into a cessna 172 i bet they would have been able to recover no problem. throw in multiple control laws and different procedures for similar situations (stall recovery in alt law vs being able to pull full back in normal law with alpha prot), a lack of tactile feedback, independent controls and it's a bad recipe for a tired inexperienced dude to deal with. automation is a great tool but, like any big power tool, can be dangerous if mishandled and must be wielded properly |
07-11-2013, 08:05 AM | #593 | |
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do i think that the rule change in the US will change the pay scales at tier 2/3 operators for the better?... i sincerely hope so because the salaries in the states are just criminal if you ask me but the pay issue seems like a bit of a toothpaste back into the tube situation to me. the bean counters in mgmt always seem to find a new burning platform to keep costs low. the new rules mean it'll be a tougher slog for up and comers but i think that at the end of the day newbies, the people they will share a cockpit with, and paying passengers will be better served by the added experience and maturity they bring to the operation. the hardest thing i do these days is decide which meal to have in cruise but every now and again i'll still reach into my old dog bag of tricks from when i dragged floats around the bush or slid around on arctic ice/gravel. |
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07-11-2013, 08:11 AM | #594 | |
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07-11-2013, 08:58 AM | #595 |
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07-11-2013, 11:59 AM | #596 |
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Right, and I see that they're mounted into the doors. I'm not speaking for all models and configurations (some planes only have slides and some have raft/slides, depending on capacity and if they are used for intercontinental travel).
777 definitely mounts them to the door, same with 787. |
07-11-2013, 12:15 PM | #597 | |
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Perception from regular folks(such as myself) arent aware of the detailed operation going on in the cockpit. I think most people feel the right seat simply handles the radio and is on standby incase the pilot croaks in flight. Gives me a whole new perception of whats going on up there. |
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07-11-2013, 12:16 PM | #598 |
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"the pilot flying reported that a flash of light occurred at 500 feet which temporarily blinded him"
How about, "I ****ed up, and I am very sorry."? I don't buy that the temporary blindness at 500 feet caused pilot error, sorry. The pilot did on his 5 hours of rest apparently. |
07-11-2013, 12:18 PM | #599 | |
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To me, it is a bogus excuse. |
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Haven't there been some cases (not crashes) of pilots being hit with people dicking around with higher intensity laser pointer devices?
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