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Old 12-12-2007, 12:36 PM   #576
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cheaper doesn't necessarily equate to better if you do some searching you can find Koni's in the $600ish range- you get great damping, a wagon strut and 04+ specific rears
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:24 PM   #577
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thanks for the idea, the D-Specs are also cheaper then the konis.....by a bunch. But thats not a bad idea.

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I was recently looking at D-Spec's and Koni's to mate up with my RCE Springs...I only ever found that the D-Spec's were usually around $550 and the Koni's right in the $600 ballpark.

Where are you finding that the D-Specs are a "bunch" cheaper?

Not flaming, just wanting to know (even though I went with Koni's)

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Old 12-12-2007, 10:47 PM   #578
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I can get the dspecs for 525 to my door....i wasnt finding the konis for less then 660-725 shipped. where should i be looking?

thanks a ton for the advise

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Old 12-13-2007, 10:30 AM   #579
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try alexperformance, there's another shop folks mention but can't recall it
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:55 AM   #580
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I can get the dspecs for 525 to my door....i wasnt finding the konis for less then 660-725 shipped. where should i be looking?

thanks a ton for the advise

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here you go.
http://cvrmotorsports.com/store/inde...product_id=362
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:03 AM   #581
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I used Sam at Turbometrics, he was very good and offered a discount for the other Subie club I belong to, you might want to get in touch with him to see if he offers one for this club. Price was great as was the service, maybe mention Leyton from Canada referred you so he knows what discount I got.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:05 PM   #582
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Ok, I found a set of rear housings in my shed off a MY02 sedan, ordered a set of MY02 Wagon fronts from the classifieds. Ordered a set of Koni inserts (8610-1351 and 8610-1440) for a MY04 and a set of DREX spacers from TiC.

So I should be good to go. Just need to order up my RCE Springs, RCE camber plates, Hardened tophats (and maybe a few other goodies). Thanks for all the advise everyone.

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Old 12-14-2007, 04:50 PM   #583
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Ok, I found a set of rear housings in my shed off a MY02 sedan, ordered a set of MY02 Wagon fronts from the classifieds. Ordered a set of Koni inserts (8610-1351 and 8610-1440) for a MY04 and a set of DREX spacers from TiC.

So I should be good to go. Just need to order up my RCE Springs, RCE camber plates, Hardened tophats (and maybe a few other goodies). Thanks for all the advise everyone.

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Well dont wait too long.................

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:58 AM   #584
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I got my tracking numbers for the RCE springs. I have to get rid of my 02 group n mounts and get 04 mounts So I will have D specs with RCE wagon spring on soon.

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Old 12-19-2007, 07:42 PM   #585
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Alright RCE Wagon Gents....now we are getting somewhere!

In the garage:
- RCE Wagon Specific Springs
- Koni Inserts in 2003 Wagon Strut Bodies ~10,000 miles on this set-up
- Dust Boots, Isolators, stock top hats all came with the donor strut assemblies
- Group-N Rear tops for the rear

In my possession tomorrow:
- RCE Lowering Front Camber Plates

I am heading out of town Friday - Sunday to visit my sis for Christmas, when I get back I am heading to the dealership to order some stock parts, new top nuts for the rears, possibly new isolators and whatever else I can get into.

Gonna clean up the strut housings nice and maybe give em a respray.

Now onto the pictures and a couple questions:






Now my question is; the fella who I bought the Koni's from believes that they are 02/03 inserts, can I utilize my new Group-N rear top hat or do I need to use the stock 03 that came with the insert/strut assembly? I have a 2004 Wagon.

Anywho, sorry for no pictures ON the wagon, but should have those before January 19th (there is a local meet up my way and I want these on before that!)

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Old 12-19-2007, 08:05 PM   #586
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Alright RCE Wagon Gents....now we are getting somewhere!

In the garage:
- RCE Wagon Specific Springs
- Koni Inserts in 2003 Wagon Strut Bodies ~10,000 miles on this set-up
- Dust Boots, Isolators, stock top hats all came with the donor strut assemblies
- Group-N Rear tops for the rear

In my possession tomorrow:
- RCE Lowering Front Camber Plates

I am heading out of town Friday - Sunday to visit my sis for Christmas, when I get back I am heading to the dealership to order some stock parts, new top nuts for the rears, possibly new isolators and whatever else I can get into.

Gonna clean up the strut housings nice and maybe give em a respray.

Now onto the pictures and a couple questions:

Now my question is; the fella who I bought the Koni's from believes that they are 02/03 inserts, can I utilize my new Group-N rear top hat or do I need to use the stock 03 that came with the insert/strut assembly? I have a 2004 Wagon.

Anywho, sorry for now pictures ON the wagon, but should have those before January 19th (there is a local meet up my way and I want these on before that!)

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Very nice! I'll be doing my install around the same time as you. Have you decided on bumpstops yet? Mike (Bigsky) posted a thread a while back with aftermarket bumpstops made to, literally, any height and size that you want. Or are you going to use stockers that are cut down a bit?
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:24 PM   #587
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if they are indeed 02/03 style rear inserts- then you will want the TIC spacers to make it work w/ the 04 rear tops (you have to use the 04+ style rear tops- the springs dictate this)

I'd suggest cutting the front bump stop one ring (the smallest ring) this should be sufficient w/ the moderate drop of the RCE springs oe you can source shorter aftermarket ones- the oe fronts are 60mm in length. In the rear source 04+ bump stops (can get them from the dealer)- the 02/03 rears are 120mm in length, the 04+ ones 90mm
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:08 PM   #588
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if they are indeed 02/03 style rear inserts- then you will want the TIC spacers to make it work w/ the 04 rear tops (you have to use the 04+ style rear tops- the springs dictate this)

I'd suggest cutting the front bump stop one ring (the smallest ring) this should be sufficient w/ the moderate drop of the RCE springs oe you can source shorter aftermarket ones- the oe fronts are 60mm in length. In the rear source 04+ bump stops (can get them from the dealer)- the 02/03 rears are 120mm in length, the 04+ ones 90mm
I figured I was going to have to go with the TiC spacers, and that's fine, I'll just have some extra parts sitting around lol

I will probably go with OEM bumpstops and trim them down as needed.

I figure another $50-$100 and I'll be done buying stuff! Just put it all together and get her on the Wag!

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Old 12-19-2007, 09:31 PM   #589
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the RCE is supposed ride at 14 inch or so from hub to fender at the front, and here is the pic of where the oem bump stop would be (no cut).

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Sleepyfu...are you saying not to cut the bumpstop?

It looks compressed in that picture, could just be the angle though?

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It looks like my dspecs are going to a local guy here and I will be going to konis with rce springs that are on the way. Should I go with 02-03 struts inserts or 04+ struts? I have an 02 wagon and oe struts sitting on the shelf.

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Old 12-20-2007, 03:12 AM   #592
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I'd suggest cutting the front bump stop one ring (the smallest ring) this should be sufficient w/ the moderate drop of the RCE springs
I was just backing up what bigsky said with a picture. cut it.
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:35 AM   #593
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It looks like my dspecs are going to a local guy here and I will be going to konis with rce springs that are on the way. Should I go with 02-03 struts inserts or 04+ struts? I have an 02 wagon and oe struts sitting on the shelf.

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The springs are 04+, so go ahead and get 04+ inserts. Don't forget you need 04+ rear tops.
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:34 AM   #594
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I was just backing up what bigsky said with a picture. cut it.
Gotya! Thank you!
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The springs are 04+, so go ahead and get 04+ inserts. Don't forget you need 04+ rear tops.
so they will fit into the 02 struts when modified
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It looks like my dspecs are going to a local guy here and I will be going to konis with rce springs that are on the way. Should I go with 02-03 struts inserts or 04+ struts? I have an 02 wagon and oe struts sitting on the shelf.

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I say use your 02-03 struts with the 04+ groupN tops and the TiC spacers. By doing this, you'll save the time and money that would have been consumed with sourcing new struts....that is unless you can find 04+ struts cheaper than the TiC spacers and you don't mind waiting.
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he's doing Koni inserts, not using the oe struts. The inserts are available as 02/03 or 04+- choose the 04+ inserts for 04+ style springs (like the RCE's)- the inserts can go into any strut housing 02-07- the insert itself is what makes the strut 04+- not the housing.
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does any on know what the diameter and the thickness of the spacers are? I can machine them at work. This is what I do for a living. Thanks for the input and will be looking forward to getting the konis installed
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he's doing Koni inserts, not using the oe struts. The inserts are available as 02/03 or 04+- choose the 04+ inserts for 04+ style springs (like the RCE's)- the inserts can go into any strut housing 02-07- the insert itself is what makes the strut 04+- not the housing.
That's what I meant, use the 02/03 strut housings and hack them apart so he could intert some Konis.
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yeah but the 02/03 housing accept the 04+ inserts just fine and they (the inserts) are the same price, thus no need for spacers



<--- 04 wagon + 02/03 donor struts + 04 rear tops
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