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Old 11-19-2018, 06:48 AM   #1
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Default Rivian Offers Short Video Sneak Peek at New Vehicles

It wasnít long ago that when an electric vehicle was going to be announced it was big news. Now, the declaration of a new EV, even a new company making EVs, requires a bit of flair to get attention.

Rivian Automotive went for the flair with the release of video of its new Rivian R1T and the all-new 3-row 7-passenger SUV will be named Rivian R1S ďall-electric adventure vehicles.Ē Theyíll debut at the upcoming Los Angeles International Auto Show.

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The 57-second video, entitled ďThe Electric Adventure Begins,Ē actually doesnít reveal either of the vehicles until the end, and even then itís a far away shot of the fast moving vehicle on a dirt road, kicking up dust.

Rivian officials say the new vehicles ďpromise impressive on- and off-road performance figures and class-leading specifications including range, power, torque and off-road articulation. These vehicles are set to demonstrate that electric vehicle technology is now able to deliver durable, long-range on- and off-road capability to consumers.Ē

Rivian's R1T Electric Adventure Vehicle was the focus of the company's short video announcing its debut in Los Angeles later this month.

That translates to the vehicles being semi-autonomous, delivering a driving range of over 400 miles and being designed for excellent on-road and off-road driving, according to the companyís website.

The company, which came to life in 2009, was founded byR.J. Scaringe, an MITengineering Ph.D graduate, who named the company after Floridaís Indian River, which flowed behind his childhood home.

Specs on the new vehicles arenít yet available, but the company employs 500 people at five locations across the U.S. with the companyís headquarters as well as its Vehicle Development and Design in Plymouth, Michigan.

Additionally, Battery, Powertrain, Controls and Integration are in Irvine, California; Self-Driving and Digital Experience in San Jose, California; Advanced Engineering in the United Kingdom and Manufacturing at a 2.6 million sq-ft production facility south of Chicago in Normal, Illinois.

Rivian expects to double employee numbers as it ramps up to full production, the company said in a release. The R1T pickup and the R1S SUV will be delivered to customers starting in 2020, which puts it behind a slew of other established companies, such as Tesla and General Motors, as well as new players like Bollinger Motors and Byton.
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:49 AM   #2
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:40 PM   #3
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:22 PM   #4
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I always did find opening the tailgate so hard and cumbersome LOLOL
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:51 PM   #5
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The side/pass through storage compartment is pretty cool. I would use that a lot. I love the fact that these EVs have a lot more storage without a traditional engine or transmission to worry about anymore.

That being said, I love the suspension on my Raptor and I'm guessing this won't be on nearly the same level off-road. At least not yet.
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:54 PM   #6
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The Verge is nuts.

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THE ALL-ELECTRIC RIVIAN R1T IS A DREAM TRUCK FOR ADVENTURERS

With a not-so-dreamy starting price of $69,000
$69,000 would be a damn bargain if the truck weren't vaporware.
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see this company acquired if the product is legit.
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:10 PM   #9
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That being said, I love the suspension on my Raptor and I'm guessing this won't be on nearly the same level off-road. At least not yet.
A rock tearing open a few battery packs could be very bad.

Like the Rimac that Hammond crashed burning for a week bad.
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:32 PM   #10
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A rock tearing open a few battery packs could be very bad.

Like the Rimac that Hammond crashed burning for a week bad.
no worse than a rock tearing a gas tank open and the subsequent fire.

If you can get out you will, if you cant then you are ****ed either way.
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After doing a bit more research, this Company isn't the flash in the pan vaporware I originally thought they were. They have substantial backing, an equipped plant, and pretty decent battery tech.
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After doing a bit more research, this Company isn't the flash in the pan vaporware I originally thought they were. They have substantial backing, an equipped plant, and pretty decent battery tech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivian

what's their battery tech?
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Stacked Cell battery with Cooling Plates, that just happens to be the exact same size, cell count, and output as Tesla's Semi and pickup truck battery. So everyone is speculating it's the same pack from Panasonic.
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This is huge.

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Ford to Invest $500 Million in Rivian, a Tesla Rival

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Ford Motor has agreed to invest $500 million in Rivian, an electric-car start-up that is widely seen as a potential rival to Tesla, Ford announced on Wednesday.

Rivian, based in Plymouth, Mich., plans to begin producing a pickup truck and a sport utility vehicle by the end of next year. Both will be powered by battery packs and are designed to be luxury vehicles that could appeal to many of the consumers drawn to Tesla and its upscale models. The retail giant Amazon led a $700 million investment in Rivian in February.

Ford is counting on the partnership to accelerate its efforts to field a range of electric cars and trucks, while it also pushes to streamline operations, slash costs and increase profitability. The company’s turnaround effort has shown little tangible progress since Jim Hackett became chief executive two years ago. Ford’s stock has fallen about 9 percent since his arrival.

On Thursday, Ford is scheduled to report its first-quarter earnings, and many analysts expect a decline. In 2018, its profits fell more than 50 percent.

“We can learn a lot from Rivian, how quickly they turn around ideas,” Ford’s chairman, William C. Ford Jr., said in an interview. “There’s a great benefit from working with a clean-sheet approach” to electric vehicles.

Ford’s investment reflects a changing dynamic in the auto industry as newcomers find a foothold based on technological advances. Traditional automakers like General Motors and Ford have introduced electric vehicles, but Tesla has become the United States market leader by far. And some analysts say Waymo, a division of Google’s parent company, Alphabet, has moved to the front in developing autonomous vehicles.

“The traditional auto industry is under a lot of pressure to develop tremendously expensive technology, and the way to that and make it financially viable is by sharing and working with others,” said Rebecca Lindland, founder of RebeccaDrives.com, a new-car information provider. “The demands of the industry are calling for alliances, and you’re seeing that in Ford and Rivian.”

Ford and Volkswagen are discussing ways of pooling efforts to develop self-driving technology. G.M. is already working with Honda on autonomous vehicles. That effort also has financial backing from SoftBank, the Japanese technology giant.

Rivian, which was founded in 2009 by R. J. Scaringe, an M.I.T.-trained engineer, introduced its truck and S.U.V. in public in November. It builds each model on a chassis, shaped like a skateboard, containing all the components that propel the vehicle — a large battery pack, axles, suspension, cooling system and four electric motors. With a full charge, Rivian’s pickup will have a range of 400 miles, the company says.

Mr. Scaringe said that Rivian had held talks with a variety of automakers but that he and Mr. Ford, long a proponent of zero-emissions vehicles, shared a similar vision about developing sustainable transportation. “We believe the world needs to electrify,” he said.

Rivian’s pickup, the R1T, and its S.U.V., the R1S, are expected to sell for $68,000 or more. Mr. Scaringe hopes the R1S competes with Tesla’s Model X and S.U.V.s produced by Land Rover and Porsche. Tesla is also working on a pickup.

Rivian has set a goal of selling about 20,000 vehicles in 2021 and twice that many in 2022. Tesla sold about 245,000 last year, although sales have slumped this year and Tesla is expected to report a loss for the first quarter on Wednesday.

On Monday, Tesla’s chief executive, Elon Musk, said the company planned to operate a fleet of one million self-driving taxis by the end of next year. Both Ford and Rivian are also developing autonomous driving technology. Like other industry executives, Mr. Scaringe said Mr. Musk’s plans appeared overly optimistic, adding that autonomous driving “will come into play in the next 10 years.”

Rivian plans to make its vehicles at a shut-down auto plant in Normal, Ill., that it acquired in 2016.

Ford had already planned to spend $11 billion to develop nearly two dozen electric vehicles, including a small S.U.V. due next year and a version of its F-150 pickup truck. The company plans to use Rivian’s skateboard chassis to produce additional models.

“We can go faster working with Rivian,” said Joe Hinrichs, president of Ford’s global automotive businesses.

Previous investments in Rivian include $500 million from Sumitomo, a Japanese conglomerate known for its tire division, and Abdul Latif Jameel, a Saudi industrial group.

Ford’s investment is subject to regulatory approval. The two companies declined to detail how much of an ownership stake Ford would take in Rivian. Mr. Hinrichs is expected to join the Rivian board.
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how much money has been pumped into Rivian to date?
A.L.J - part of the initial 450m
Sumitomo - 500m
Amazon - 700m
Ford - 500m

so 2.2b potentially on the books for investment money to date (assuming Ford's make it through); it takes a lot of green to start a car company in this day and age.
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Could definitely be huge. Everyone on this forum has called ford stupid for axing its passenger car line that makes dick for revenue and margin and couldnít see the obvious writing on the wall of dumping money into EV trucks and SUVís.

Ford is good at making trucks and suvís. Itís a damn smart move to pour money into being a leader in the EV / SUV / CUV market. Fiat / Chrysler doesnít have **** in the pipeline and GM is not focused enough on it.
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So Ford was worried after all. $500M investment..
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So Ford was worried after all. $500M investment..
Um no, try again. Ford is playing it smart by investing into Rivian and having other companies invest which dramatically cuts down r&d costs. I wouldnít be too surprised if Ford acquires Rivian and some point and save themselves hundreds of millions of dollars in R&D expense.

If you listened to any of Fords last few earnings calls and press releases (which clearly you havenít) they have stated numerous times they are sinking capital in EV R&D for their trucks, suvís, and cuvís.
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Believe what you want. Ford is smart to take out the threat.
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Believe what you want. Ford is smart to take out the threat.
There not taking out the thread. You can’t be this dense.

Edit: An entity is also legally prohibited from investing in or acquiring another company for the purpose of putting them out of business. The more you know.

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Ford will become the threat to all other (domestic?) truck manufacturers if this pans out.
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I concur.
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Yes,
because Ford truck sales suck and they need all the help they can get


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Nah. GM will totally dust off their EV1 documentation and release a Lead-Acid powered Silverado ZE1 that will sell just as well as the F-150 Zero Edition and have the added benefit of Walmart stocking the batteries.
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Video has surfaced of a Rivian R1T doing a "tank turn" — that is, spinning in place like a tracked vehicle. It's clearly CGI, but the video was apparently made for Rivian by one of the electric carmaker's ad or marketing agencies. And although the provenance and computer imagery could imply a hoax, the EV startup has itself talked up such a feature. TechCrunch ran a piece last December saying, "Rivian trademarked terms 'tank turn' and 'tank steer' referring to independently moving wheels that can enable extremely tight turns. [Rivian CEO R.J.] Scaringe confirmed that this feature would be available on the R1S, the R1T, and future quad-drive vehicles."

According to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, Rivian filed to trademark Tank Turn and Tank Steer on Oct. 24, 2018, but both applications are dead. That feature, however, remains possible, since the R1T and R1S utilize four independent motors at the wheels; there's no reason they can't rotate the vehicles in place to avoid, as in the video, a washed-out road. And since Rivian filed for the vehicle names R1A, R1C, R2A, R2C, R2R, and R2S, there are likely a few more off-road-capable offerings that could make use of the trick — especially that rumored Rivian rally car.

We imagine there'll be a few restrictions imposed in the fine print, such as not pulling the maneuver on paved roads or other high-grip surfaces. A commenter on another article wrote, "Brian Gase from Rivian confirmed to me that this feature will be on dirt/gravel only. In his words, if you do this on pavement you will 'break ****,'" Gase being Rivian's chief engineer. Of course, the Audi RS3 converted to electric power with four Formula E motors and 1,183 horsepower spun quite the burnout-in-place before burning rubber out of frame, and didn't seem to have a problem, so anything is possible. We're eager to see what Rivian's come up with.
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