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08-21-2007, 08:25 PM | #1 |
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BE Hybrid Engine Build
My 2000 LGT is looking like the headgaskets are about to go so I am thinking instead of just replacing the head gasket I would build something strong for my turbo kit. So here is what I got so far, what do you guys think?
Budget Version EJ20 WRX Short Block $400 EJ25 Crank (Currently on Car) EJ25 Heads (Currently on Car) STI Pistons $200 STI Rods $150 Subaru Head Gasket $60 Subaru Head Bolts $85 ---------------------------- Total $895 If I Can Raise More Money Version EJ20 WRX Short Block $400 EJ25 Crank (Currently on Car) EJ25 Heads (Currently on Car) Wiseco Pistons $476 Eagle Rods $320 Cometic Head Gasket $97 Cosworth Bearings $68 ARP Head Bolts $175 ---------------------------- Total $1536 What do you think, what else should I add to the list, I am a rookie at this so I appreciate all suggestions and criticism.
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08-22-2007, 10:10 AM | #2 |
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Why are you using the EJ25 crank for your engine build?
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08-22-2007, 10:24 AM | #3 |
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Was told it would be a good idea, what do you recommend?
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08-22-2007, 10:25 AM | #4 |
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Add another couple thousand for all your miscellaneous gaskets, timing belt, pumps, filters, bolts, seals...
If you're going to turbo, you might as well do a full swap. |
08-22-2007, 12:02 PM | #5 |
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hmmmmm... and here I thought the thread was going to be about a hybrid swap...
I was waiting to read about the prius engine you were going to drop in... |
08-22-2007, 12:05 PM | #6 |
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nope, I figured if I was going to build something, to make it a little stronger than the stock WRX engine, let me hear what the pros have to say and their parts list
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08-22-2007, 12:33 PM | #7 |
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Hopefully Matt Monson will pop in and give his opinion. He seems to know this stuff very well.
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08-22-2007, 12:47 PM | #8 | ||
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08-22-2007, 02:14 PM | #9 |
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thanks guys keep it coming
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08-23-2007, 06:12 AM | #10 | |
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i want to know the detail if you really gonna do it. btw, do not forget to change ur suspension setup after u done it. i mean not KYB or AGX with H&R or Eibach springs but the real height and bound-rebound adjustable suspension (i do not know why, i do not like the "coilover" word, hehehehe). |
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08-23-2007, 09:05 AM | #11 |
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i have tein coilovers
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08-23-2007, 09:27 AM | #12 |
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What about using an EJ257 with my heads?
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08-23-2007, 10:17 AM | #13 |
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08-23-2007, 11:12 AM | #14 |
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Eagle rods probably aren't necessary nor are the headbolts unless you plan on 400+ hp. Spend the money on ECU and tuning instead.
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08-23-2007, 11:34 AM | #15 |
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I figured I would build it up right away so I wouldnt have to worry later, but I have a new plan
My heads EJ257 Shortblock $250 EJ257 Pistons and Rods $300 EJ257 Crank $150 Cometic Head Gasket $97 Subaru Headbolts $85 ---------------------- Total $882 and bolt up the TD04 I have for now, which should give me OK power and quick spool, I am thinking 220-230whp and then upgrade to a bigger turbo later. Use my stock ecu with an emanage piggyback for management |
08-24-2007, 11:15 AM | #16 |
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Let me know how it goes - I have yet to turn up the boost and implement any real EM on my setup, but I have the TD04 and EJ257 like you will have.
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08-24-2007, 11:59 AM | #17 | |
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The only big challenge with this approach is if you have OBD-II testing. If you don't you are golden. If you do? Maybe time to think about a complete USDM swap instead... |
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08-24-2007, 12:02 PM | #18 |
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Now that I have read the rest and the "new plan; if you want to do it on the super cheap, just use an Ej22E open deck NA block with your heads. That's what my next project will use. It's mid 8's for CR and the only compromise is .3l of displacement...
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08-24-2007, 12:45 PM | #19 |
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Just don't turn up the boost too high on an open deck block. Better to melt a piston than crack a wall? Dunno...
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08-24-2007, 01:12 PM | #20 | |
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I have friends who have successfully used the Ej22e on 350chp builds. If you change to forged pistons, you can go even further than that. It's not a new formula and definitely not something I can take credit for. Shoot Quirt Crawford an email if you doubt my word on it. He built some high powered EJ22's back in his sandrail days before we had a WRX or even a dream of an Ej257 powered STi. |
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08-24-2007, 03:05 PM | #21 |
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get the head gaskets fixed under the Subaru TSB (as long as you're under 100k miles) and just leave it alone.
Then if you must, pick up a spare motor and start building it. At least this way, you've got a good warranted stocker to re-sell later. My $0.02 |
08-24-2007, 03:08 PM | #22 |
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i found an ej257 and also I have 111k
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