Formula 1 2023

[MrH]

Mayhem at he start!
Started to downpour at the start.
Once again Ferrari gets caught napping in the pits.

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[MrH]

Result of the Heineken Dutch Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 72 2h 24:04.411
2 Alonso Aston Martin 72 + 0:03.744
3 Gasly Alpine 72 + 0:07.058
4 Perez Red Bull 72 + 0:10.068
5 Sainz Ferrari 72 + 0:12.541
6 Hamilton Mercedes 72 + 0:13.209
7 Norris McLaren 72 + 0:13.232
8 Albon Williams 72 + 0:15.155
9 Piastri McLaren 72 + 0:16.580
10 Ocon Alpine 72 + 0:18.346
11 Stroll Aston Martin 72 + 0:20.087
12 Hulkenberg Haas 72 + 0:20.840
13 Lawson AlphaTauri 72 + 0:26.147
14 Magnussen Haas 72 + 0:26.410
15 Bottas Alfa Romeo 72 + 0:27.388
16 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 72 + 0:29.893
17 Russell Mercedes 72 + 0:55.754
Zhou Alfa Romeo 62 Accident
Leclerc Ferrari 41 Accident Damage
Sargeant Williams 14 Accident

Heavy rain after the start, dried out, heavy rain around 10 laps to go.
Then of course the delayed red flag.

[Max Capacity]

I have to ask, watched FP1 from Monza, what happened to all the trees ? Was there a bad storm in that area ?

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by Max Capacity

I have to ask, watched FP1 from Monza, what happened to all the trees ? Was there a bad storm in that area ?

https://pledgetimes.com/monza-there-...e-cut-down-fp/

The tree problem

“A sad occurrence has occurred, because a disease attacked an incredible number of trees of the park and some are unfortunately near the circuit“. The trees will then have to be cut down: “Their end is inexorablebecause we can’t risk them falling on the track“.

[Max Capacity]

Thanks for that link. Sad to see the trees gone.

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Sainz Ferrari 1:20.294 161.393 mph
2 Verstappen Red Bull 1:20.307 0.013
3 Leclerc Ferrari 1:20.361 0.067
4 Russell Mercedes 1:20.671 0.377
5 Perez Red Bull 1:20.688 0.394
6 Albon Williams 1:20.760 0.466
7 Piastri McLaren 1:20.785 0.491
8 Hamilton Mercedes 1:20.820 0.526
9 Norris McLaren 1:20.979 0.685
10 Alonso Aston Martin 1:21.417 1.123
11 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:21.594
12 Lawson AlphaTauri 1:21.758
13 Hulkenberg Haas 1:21.776
14 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1:21.940
15 Sargeant Williams 1:21.944
16 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1:22.390
17 Gasly Alpine 1:22.545
18 Ocon Alpine 1:22.548
19 Magnussen Haas 1:22.592
20 Stroll Aston Martin 1:22.860

Both Ferrari drivers got investigated for driving too slow during qualifying.
Got no punishment because they fear for their lives.

[torquemada]

another boring race in Monza, congrats to RedBull and Verstappen for their records

[MrH]

Result of the Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 51 1h 12:13.618
2 Perez Red Bull 51 + 0:06.064
3 Sainz Ferrari 51 + 0:11.193
4 Leclerc Ferrari 51 + 0:11.377
5 Russell Mercedes 51 + 0:23.028
6 Hamilton Mercedes 51 + 0:42.679
7 Albon Williams 51 + 0:45.106
8 Norris McLaren 51 + 0:45.449
9 Alonso Aston Martin 51 + 0:46.294
10 Bottas Alfa Romeo 51 + 1:04.056
11 Lawson AlphaTauri 51 + 1:10.638
12 Piastri McLaren 51 + 1:13.074
13 Sargeant Williams 51 + 1:18.557
14 Zhou Alfa Romeo 51 + 1:20.164
15 Gasly Alpine 51 + 1:22.510
16 Stroll Aston Martin 51 + 1:27.266
17 Hulkenberg Haas 50 + 1 Lap
18 Magnussen Haas 50 + 1 Lap
Ocon Alpine 39 Retired
NS Tsunoda AlphaTauri Did Not Start

Fastest Lap: Piastri (McLaren) 1:25.072 (Lap 43)

Max brake Vettel's win streak.
Good job by both Ferrari. I was waiting for them to collide with each other.
Reality check to AM & Alpine after they claim they are back after last race.
Russell was the smartest driver out there. If you can't get past a much slower car, cut the chicane. I'm surprise other drivers do't do that. Whats a 5 sec. penalty when you are ahead by 20 sec. Only downside is a late safety car.
I remember Hulk did that at Abu Dhabi a few years back.
Haas needs to fix that tire issue that been plaguing them for the last 5 years.

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by MrH

Max brake Vettel's win streak.
Good job by both Ferrari. I was waiting for them to collide with each other.
Reality check to AM & Alpine after they claim they are back after last race.
Russell was the smartest driver out there. If you can't get past a much slower car, cut the chicane. I'm surprise other drivers do't do that. Whats a 5 sec. penalty when you are ahead by 20 sec. Only downside is a late safety car.
I remember Hulk did that at Abu Dhabi a few years back.
Haas needs to fix that tire issue that been plaguing them for the last 5 years.

I agree, the five second penalties aren´t real penalties.


Haas? If they fix the tire issue there will be a strategy issue, or a driver issue, or a boxing issue...the whole team is an issue.

[MrH]

Haas was a decent team 2018.
Didn't they finish 4th in the WCC.
Ever since Perelli change the tire construction, they never recovered from that.
I remember Andretti said Hass Didn't care where they finished.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by torquemada

another boring race in Monza, congrats to RedBull and Verstappen for their records

I mean, first place is pretty much wrapped up at this point. Max is a lunatic driver in a fast car. Gotta focus lower. Keeping an eye on the contstructor standings is fun. The battle for 2-4 was fun to watch. I dunno, for me it's not all about who finishes first.

[Max Capacity]

Originally Posted by dwf137

I mean, first place is pretty much wrapped up at this point. Max is a lunatic driver in a fast car. Gotta focus lower. Keeping an eye on the contstructor standings is fun. The battle for 2-4 was fun to watch. I dunno, for me it's not all about who finishes first.

Yes, pretty like when Lewis was winning just about everything. It's fun to watch how close the cars get at those speeds. So if you begin to watch the mid-pack as you said, you can be entertained. Nice to see Albon making up ground for Williams.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by Max Capacity

Yes, pretty like when Lewis was winning just about everything. It's fun to watch how close the cars get at those speeds. So if you begin to watch the mid-pack as you said, you can be entertained. Nice to see Albon making up ground for Williams.

Albon has been killing it, he's definitely been fun to watch this year.

[MrH]

Both Redbulls out of Q2.
Looks like there's going to be a new race winner at Singapore.

[MrH]

Both Redbulls out of Q2.
Looks like there's going to be a new race winner at Singapore.

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Singapore Airlines Singapore Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Sainz Ferrari 1:30.984 121.456 mph
2 Russell Mercedes 1:31.056 0.072
3 Leclerc Ferrari 1:31.063 0.079
4 Norris McLaren 1:31.270 0.286
5 Hamilton Mercedes 1:31.485 0.501
6 Magnussen Haas 1:31.575 0.591
7 Alonso Aston Martin 1:31.615 0.631
8 Ocon Alpine 1:31.673 0.689
9 Hulkenberg Haas 1:31.808 0.824
10 Lawson AlphaTauri 1:32.268 1.284
11 Verstappen Red Bull 1:32.173
12 Gasly Alpine 1:32.274
13 Perez Red Bull 1:32.310
14 Albon Williams 1:33.147
15 Tsunoda AlphaTauri No Time
16 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1:32.809
17 Piastri McLaren 1:32.902
18 Sargeant Williams 1:33.252
19 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1:33.258
20 Stroll Aston Martin 1:33.397

Will Ferrari screw this up or will Mercedes or McLaren take the win.
Both Haas in the top 10. That won't last long.

[MrH]

Sainz
Norris
Lewis
Leclrec
Max

[MrH]

Result of the Singapore Airlines Singapore Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Sainz Ferrari 62 1h 46:37.418
2 Norris McLaren 62 + 0:00.812
3 Hamilton Mercedes 62 + 0:01.269
4 Leclerc Ferrari 62 + 0:21.177
5 Verstappen Red Bull 62 + 0:21.441
6 Gasly Alpine 62 + 0:38.441
7 Piastri McLaren 62 + 0:41.479
8 Perez Red Bull 62 + 0:54.534
9 Lawson AlphaTauri 62 + 1:05.918
10 Magnussen Haas 62 + 1:12.116
11 Albon Williams 62 + 1:13.417
12 Zhou Alfa Romeo 62 + 1:23.649
13 Hulkenberg Haas 62 + 1:26.201
14 Sargeant Williams 62 + 1:26.889
15 Alonso Aston Martin 62 + 1:27.603
16 Russell Mercedes 61 + 1 Lap
Bottas Alfa Romeo 51 Hydraulics
Ocon Alpine 42 Gearbox
Tsunoda AlphaTauri 0 Puncture

Thing got a little interesting near the end but mostly a huge borefest.
Russel crashes out on last lap loses 3rd to Lewis
Tsunoda gets a puntcure on lap 1 parks it and calls it a day
Bad day for AM. Stroll DNS, Alonso pit problems
Lawson, first points (2). 1 behind Tsunoda.
Has Vasser turned Ferrari around. They didn't bungled it up.

[torquemada]

not a puncture but Tsunodas explaining abilities are as bad as his driving abilities

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/v...416447316.html

I heard something about suspension failure

And Alonso showed his age and made some mistakes, not only his pit crew.

Sainz with a very intelligent racing, like Norris, this will give Leclerc even bigger ego problems.

Russell with the same mistake as Norris, with the worse end for Russell.


I said in the past that Norris, Russell and Leclerc (aside from Verstappen) will be the upcoming stars and winner of some championships. I correct myself, Leclerc never will, Ferrari has broken another driver.
But Piastri and Lawson are the next drivers with a great potential.

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Lenovo Japanese Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 1:28.877 146.160 mph
2 Piastri McLaren 1:29.458 0.581
3 Norris McLaren 1:29.493 0.616
4 Leclerc Ferrari 1:29.542 0.665
5 Perez Red Bull 1:29.650 0.773
6 Sainz Ferrari 1:29.850 0.973
7 Hamilton Mercedes 1:29.908 1.031
8 Russell Mercedes 1:30.219 1.342
9 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:30.303 1.426
10 Alonso Aston Martin 1:30.560 1.683
11 Lawson AlphaTauri 1:30.508
12 Gasly Alpine 1:30.509
13 Albon Williams 1:30.537
14 Ocon Alpine 1:30.586
15 Magnussen Haas 1:30.665
16 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1:31.049
17 Stroll Aston Martin 1:31.181
18 Hulkenberg Haas 1:31.299
19 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1:31.398
20 Sargeant Williams No Time

[MrH]

Result of the Lenovo Japanese Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 53 1h 30:58.421
2 Norris McLaren 53 + 0:19.387
3 Piastri McLaren 53 + 0:36.494
4 Leclerc Ferrari 53 + 0:43.998
5 Hamilton Mercedes 53 + 0:49.376
6 Sainz Ferrari 53 + 0:50.221
7 Russell Mercedes 53 + 0:57.659
8 Alonso Aston Martin 53 + 1:14.725
9 Ocon Alpine 53 + 1:19.678
10 Gasly Alpine 53 + 1:23.155
11 Lawson AlphaTauri 52 + 1 Lap
12 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 52 + 1 Lap
13 Zhou Alfa Romeo 52 + 1 Lap
14 Hulkenberg Haas 52 + 1 Lap
15 Magnussen Haas 52 + 1 Lap
Albon Williams 26 Accident Damage
Sargeant Williams 22 Accident Damage
Stroll Aston Martin 20 Rear Wing Failure
Perez Red Bull 15 Retired
Bottas Alfa Romeo 7 Accident Damage

Mad "Suck on an egg" Max wins in a landslide
Who is the 2nd best team. Mercedes, Ferrari or McLaren?
AM keeps falling back.

[MrH]

FIA approves Andretti's F1 entry

https://www.pitpass.com/76271/FIA-ap...ettis-F1-entry

The FIA has officially given the green light to Andretti Formula Racing's bid to enter F1, which will now be passed to Formula One Management for commercial discussions.

Following the conclusion of a comprehensive application process for prospective teams seeking to participate at a competitive level in the Formula One World Championship, the FIA concluded that the application by Andretti Formula Racing LLC should progress to the next stage.

Andretti Formula Racing LLC was the only candidate to meet the stringent criteria that was set by the FIA in all material respects from the four teams which lodged formal applications in Phase 2 of the process. The initial call for Expressions of Interest (Phase 1) attracted numerous enquiries which resulted in four progressing to Phase 2.

The FIA has officially informed all applicant teams of their findings after a thorough appraisal.

Following the call for Expressions Of Interest in February, the FIA has applied a robust process of due diligence during which the applicants were assessed on the sporting and technical ability, the ability of the team to raise and maintain sufficient funding to allow participation in the Championship at a competitive level and the team's experience and human resources.

Selection criteria also included sustainability management in line with the FIA's ambition of achieving the sport's goals for net-zero by 2030. Any prospective F1 team was also required to illustrate how they intend to achieve a positive societal impact through its participation in the sport.

As part of the agreed process of the Expressions Of Interest protocol, the FIA findings on Andretti Formula Racing LLC's submission will now be passed to Formula One Management (FOM) for commercial discussions.

"The FIA was very clear in establishing stringent criteria for entry from the outset of the Expressions of Interest procedure," said FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem. "Our objective, after rigorous due diligence during the application phase, was to only approve prospective entries which satisfied the set criteria and illustrated that they would add value to the sport.

"The FIA is obliged to approve applications that comply with the Expressions of Interests application requirements and we have adhered to that procedure in deciding that Andretti Formula Racing LLC's application would proceed to the next stage of the application process. In taking that decision, the FIA is acting in accordance with EU directives on motor sport participation and development.

"Andretti Formula Racing LLC was the only entity which fulfils the selection criteria that was set in all material respects. I congratulate Michael Andretti and his team on a thorough submission. I also want to thank all prospective teams for their interest and participation.

"The Expressions of Interest process builds on the positive acceptance of the FIA's 2026 F1 Power Unit Regulations among existing OEMs which has also attracted further commitment from Audi, Honda and Ford and interest from Porsche and General Motors.

"I would like to thank all of the FIA team members involved in the Expressions of Interest process for their tireless efforts in ensuring a diligent assessment of all of the applications received."

The Expressions of Interest process:

In February 2023, the FIA announced the official launch of an application process to identify prospective teams seeking to participate at a competitive level in the FIA Formula One World Championship.

All applicants underwent thorough due diligence. The assessment of each application covered in particular the sporting and technical capabilities and resources of the applicant team, the ability of the team to raise and maintain sufficient funding to allow participation in the Championship at a competitive level and the team's relevant experience and human resources.

Applications were also judged on their ability to meet sustainability criteria and deliver positive societal impact in line with the FIA's approach to Equality, Diversity and Inclusion.

The overall long-term interests of the Championship, involving all stakeholders, determined which candidates were selected together with the applicable regulations and governance arrangements.

The terms of the formal application process (together with the complete selection criteria, applicable deadlines, legal requirements and other conditions) were communicated to candidates that submitted a preliminary Expression of Interest to the FIA.

Phase 1: Call for Expressions of Interest
Phase 2: Application, evaluation and approval process
Phase 3: Successful applicant referred to FOM for commercial discussions

[Max Capacity]

Could be an interesting 2026 season.

[340Duster]

Let's see if F1 approves.

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Qatar Airways Qatar Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 1:23.778 144.695 mph
2 Russell Mercedes 1:24.219 0.441
3 Hamilton Mercedes 1:24.305 0.527
4 Alonso Aston Martin 1:24.369 0.591
5 Leclerc Ferrari 1:24.424 0.646
6 Piastri McLaren 1:24.540 0.762
7 Gasly Alpine 1:24.553 0.775
8 Ocon Alpine 1:24.763 0.985
9 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1:25.058 1.280
10 Norris McLaren No Time -
11 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:25.301 -
12 Sainz Ferrari 1:25.328 -
13 Perez Red Bull 1:25.462 -
14 Albon Williams 1:25.707 -
15 Hulkenberg Haas 1:25.783 -
16 Sargeant Williams 1:26.210 -
17 Stroll Aston Martin 1:26.345 -
18 Lawson AlphaTauri 1:26.635 -
19 Magnussen Haas 1:27.046 -
20 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1:27.432 -