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Old 09-27-2016, 03:19 PM   #1
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Hey everyone, I tried searching this one out on a few different sections of the forms and I apologize if this has been covered before but my forester just spun a bearing and I need some help from some knowledgeable people.

So, basics on the car, 2009 Forester XT, Automatic. No mods, pro-tuned from MPS many moons ago. Car spun a bearing while driving down the highway, in cruise, at 100km/h. No idea how this happened, but that is the situation I am in.

I am looking to swap out the engine and I am wondering which engines are compatible with the chassis. I am less worried about keeping a turbo'd car as I am with simply finding an engine I can swap in for 3G instead of paying 5K to get my 150K Km 2009 engine rebuilt.

I have found options for naturally aspirated 2.5EJs from the legacy, and newer foresters (14,15) etc and I am wondering if these complete engines would work when matted to my transmission, rad, air box etc.

Other options would be finding a wrx engine or sti engine, but those are few and far between in Saskatchewan.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:21 PM   #2
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The cheapest and easiest option is to buy a new OEM shortblock ($1900 US) and swap that in assuming your heads are fine. Replace the oil cooler if you have one.
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:24 PM   #3
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Hey everyone, I tried searching this one out on a few different sections of the forms and I apologize if this has been covered before but my forester just spun a bearing and I need some help from some knowledgeable people.

So, basics on the car, 2009 Forester XT, Automatic. No mods, pro-tuned from MPS many moons ago. Car spun a bearing while driving down the highway, in cruise, at 100km/h. No idea how this happened, but that is the situation I am in.

I am looking to swap out the engine and I am wondering which engines are compatible with the chassis. I am less worried about keeping a turbo'd car as I am with simply finding an engine I can swap in for 3G instead of paying 5K to get my 150K Km 2009 engine rebuilt.

I have found options for naturally aspirated 2.5EJs from the legacy, and newer foresters (14,15) etc and I am wondering if these complete engines would work when matted to my transmission, rad, air box etc.

Other options would be finding a wrx engine or sti engine, but those are few and far between in Saskatchewan.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
So no mods other than the pro-tune?

It will probably be more work converting the car to N/A than buying an OEM shortblock. Are you doing the labor yourself or paying a shop?
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:29 PM   #4
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So no mods other than the pro-tune?

It will probably be more work converting the car to N/A than buying an OEM shortblock. Are you doing the labor yourself or paying a shop?
If I were to be doing an engine swap, we would do the work ourselves, getting the engine rebuilt would require pulling the engine and handing it off to an engine builder.

So if I found a full 2.5L NA engine, like bought a car that was totaled from being rear ended and took the engine and everything out and swapped it over, that wouldn't work? I could get a 2011 forester with a side impact with a $2,200 CAD. Engine has fewer miles than my existing XT motor.

other option would be something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-04-05-06...FXavvV&vxp=mtr but I do not know how that would work persay
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:24 PM   #5
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So if I found a full 2.5L NA engine, like bought a car that was totaled from being rear ended and took the engine and everything out and swapped it over, that wouldn't work? I could get a 2011 forester with a side impact with a $2,200 CAD. Engine has fewer miles than my existing XT motor.
The wiring harnesses will have differences between turbo and NA vehicles. If you wanted to gut both cars and swap all the wiring over it might work but it will be a very large undertaking.

But if you have the ability to pull an engine yourself, why not just get a new shortblock and swap your heads over? It's not any worse than doing a regular head gasket job.

And if you want to import a JDM engine, give JDM Racing Motors in Quebec a call and see if they can find you something that will swap right in. They know their stuff and shipping wouldn't be too bad.
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Old 09-28-2016, 12:20 PM   #6
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The easiest route is to do what monkeypouseur said in post #2. The cheapest and easiest option is to buy a new OEM shortblock ($1900 US) and swap that in assuming your heads are fine. Replace the oil cooler if you have one.

That's what most people do.

I put a ej257 in my 2005 Legacy GT, May 2012, had my heads rebuilt, ARP head studs, new oil pump, and other hoses and things to make sure the car lasted many years. Over 75,000 miles later at 21psi on stock fueling with a vf52 the engine runs perfect. Chassis has 231,000 miles. Its a great DD and winter weekend car for going to VT skiing most weekends.

It's all in the tune. www.tuningalliance.com
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:27 PM   #7
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! rebuilding is probably the route to go. I Will reach out to JDM Racing Motors in Quebec as well!


Appreciate all of the feedback so far
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:50 PM   #8
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Yes you will be putting yourself far at a disadvantage by trying to swap the car from turbo to NA. If it were easy to interchange motors between the two platforms every NA Subaru would have a turbo motor in it.
Another option would be to call a JDM Importer and see what engines would be a direct fit in with your car. The tune is critical. A friend of mine blew his 2.0 and installed a JDM Version 8 EJ207. It dropped right in and with the JDM ECU you could tune it from a laptop like the USDM one. Very fast, very powerful, and not a lot of work. There are plenty of options, but I will tell you that you will not save a single penny (canadian or US) by trying to convert to NA.
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Old 10-11-2016, 02:24 PM   #9
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Yes you will be putting yourself far at a disadvantage by trying to swap the car from turbo to NA. If it were easy to interchange motors between the two platforms every NA Subaru would have a turbo motor in it.
Another option would be to call a JDM Importer and see what engines would be a direct fit in with your car. The tune is critical. A friend of mine blew his 2.0 and installed a JDM Version 8 EJ207. It dropped right in and with the JDM ECU you could tune it from a laptop like the USDM one. Very fast, very powerful, and not a lot of work. There are plenty of options, but I will tell you that you will not save a single penny (canadian or US) by trying to convert to NA.
I am looking to do this (swap to a JDM motor, as it is much cheaper) but all JDM options seem to be the 2L turbo as opposed to the EJ255 (which is FINE, but I would need to know if I an make it work in a 2009 XT before I commit to that)
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:19 PM   #10
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IMO make your life easier and do it the right way, buy a ej257 short block, have your heads checked by a machine shop...but I think I said all this above...

A lot of members here and on the Legacy GT forum have looked at doing it other way's, but the smart ones do what I did. Which I learned from reading about all the attempts others did to do other things.

Winter time is coming, your going to want a dependable car.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:10 PM   #11
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Question Follow up, how did it go?

I have a 2009 Forester XT with a nearly identical story. Exploring similar options to those posted here. What did you decide on, and did it work?
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:56 AM   #12
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I have a 2009 Forester XT with a nearly identical story. Exploring similar options to those posted here. What did you decide on, and did it work?
If you plan to keep the car a new ej257 from the dealer or one of the links in this thread.

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...ist-42243.html

I have over 90,000 miles on my ej257 in my 05 Legacy GT.

There are other normal wear items that should be replaced at the same time and install ARP head studs for your rebuilt heads.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:24 AM   #13
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if you are not looking for extra power, the cheapest and easiest solution has been posted.

get a oem short block and slap it in there. get a new oil modine (referred to as an oil cooler but works more like a heat exchanger) and clean all oil passages.

call it done.

going N/A is not a viable option. it will require a TON of work and $$$.
a v7/v8/v9 EJ207 Swap will require just as much work and more $$$. they are 16bit ECU's and cable trottle, you are DBW and 32bit. you could go v10 EJ207 but they cost like $10,000.

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Old 08-31-2018, 05:55 PM   #14
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Default 2.5 Swap to a 2.0

I just purchased a JDM 2.0 longblock motor for my 09 Forester XT. I was told by JDM racing motors, that all I would need to do is swap the engine wiring harness, and the intake manifold. Since I am fairly new to this forum, how did your swap go? My Forester is a 2.5 so I'm curious to know what issues you may have run into. Thanks..
Update: purchased the JDM racing 2.0 motor and I noticed some differences with the injectors. The injectors themselves and connections are different. Would swapping the whole components be good or bad? Any ideas..

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Old 12-02-2020, 10:34 PM   #15
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Hey all, thought I would jump in here as I'm in a similar situation. 09SKForesterXT did you end up using a JDM engine or a new short block?
I have a recently purchased 2010 Forester XT that is blowing exhaust out the coolant, again, after supposedly having a head gasket repair by the mechanic I bought it from. Turns out this engine has seen a lot of work, probably including some threaded inserts in the head bolt threads... I'm probably going to pay someone to pull it apart for a head gasket repair, but am concerned they will find the block unusable.
So, short story long, I'm trying to find an economical back-up plan. Sounds like a new short block is the safest way to go, but I am curious if I could economize using a JDM EJ20X instead? Where could I find the ins & outs of a swap of this type?
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