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Old 06-18-2008, 08:02 PM   #51
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Have you ever driven a high horsepower Subaru?
I have driven enough high powered cars at the drags to understand that you don't make 10MPH just by improving your 60'

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but when you're running 11s or 10s and you make just a small mistake... something that makes you fall out of boost or something... your mph will suffer greatly.
And THIS is my point - I don't see where in the first post that he said he screwed up his run and made such a mistake
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:09 PM   #52
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How can you say that is a trend mate - you were changing your setup and the power your car makes. Obviously your MPH will change




I'm not meaning to ride him, I'm was pointing out the obvious and everyone chimed in saying "he will improve" bla bla. It seems ppl in this thread don't understand how negligable a benefit improving your 60' has on your overall trap speed - however a quicker 60' will benefit your ET.

I have no doubt he will improve his ET, but if his run was clean apart from the launch then I doub't he will improve his MPH that much.

He may pick up a couple MPH by sorting out his launch, but 10-12MPH is a bit of a stretch. I mean we are talking approx .4 of a second difference between his current 60' and a 1.6 - and that fraction of a second will not increase his trap by 10-12MPH.

As I said, 520whp in a bugeye should give a 130MPH trap - his 119MPH points to approx 400whp.

Saying that, perhaps he changed gears like a granny, or had some mid track traction issues, or took his foot of too early, or some other problem that stopped his car from accelerating mid track - but if he did, why didn't he mention it?

maybe i didnt mention anything because maybe i DONT know what i did wrong ..i know that one of the runs i rode out 4th gear too long instead of shifting into 5th...and another run i shifted into 5th too early..there ARE probably other things i did wrong too..it was my FIRST TIME AT ANY track drag racing..and it was my second time driving the car after getting it finished AND it was my FIRST** time all out beating on the car everrrr..i dont even drive this car enough to get to know it and get used to it.....i KNOW it has alot left in it(even if i have to let a "pro" drive it sooner or later to prove some of you wrong)
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:46 PM   #53
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Stop defending yourself. One guy half read one of DEF's posts and shot his mouth off in the wrong direction. Now you are being used as a shied to defend his mistake. Your car sounds awesome. You have a set up a lot of us would love to have. Keep driving it , ignore the negative element and enjoy your car. I bet you hit 11's your next time out. It ain't rocket science. It is an art though. Not a particularly difficult one like say sculpting but an art nonetheless. LOL !
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:28 AM   #54
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With 2.0-2.1 sixty foots... your gonna pick up a TON of mph once you get down into the 1.6-1.7 range. Heck even with a low 1.8. End of story.

Good luck and keep practicing. Keep us updated...

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Old 06-19-2008, 10:20 AM   #55
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Stop defending yourself. One guy half read one of DEF's posts and shot his mouth off in the wrong direction. Now you are being used as a shied to defend his mistake. Your car sounds awesome. You have a set up a lot of us would love to have. Keep driving it , ignore the negative element and enjoy your car. I bet you hit 11's your next time out. It ain't rocket science. It is an art though. Not a particularly difficult one like say sculpting but an art nonetheless. LOL !
Well said

Also, it does improve trap speed when 60's are improved. Not a ton, but it will. He might need to shift faster. I see a mid to high 120's.

Let us see what the guy is capable of doing on his next track day!

Good luck to the OP. You got a hell of a car!
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:15 AM   #56
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ok....today was my 2ND time at the track.... still having only driven the car 1-2 times per week since, i decided to go to the track..still with no launch practice... i hit 12.1 at 121 (: and that was still with a lousy 2.0 60"...........so my conclusion is my LC is set too low because i somewhat bog and dont take off fast or i need practice..
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:49 AM   #57
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ok....today was my 2ND time at the track.... still having only driven the car 1-2 times per week since, i decided to go to the track..still with no launch practice... i hit 12.1 at 121 (: and that was still with a lousy 2.0 60"...........so my conclusion is my LC is set too low because i somewhat bog and dont take off fast or i need practice..
Thats a lot of power you got there. Def, should be E/Ting and trapping way higher. You should be able to do 10s whenever you get your skills down. Theres a 380whp wrx running around here going 11.70s at 119. Good luck!
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Old 07-12-2008, 07:38 AM   #58
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well, keep practicing and your times will drop, and don't let all these haters say otherwise cause I am sure none of them have a 35r built motor bugeye!!

Are you still running your stock axles??

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Old 07-12-2008, 07:57 AM   #59
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121mph = 415whp, better then your 119mph, but still nowhere near 520whp
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:27 AM   #60
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I have a quick question. Why would you do all that engine work and leave the rods stock? This is a usdm 2.5 right? I didn't think the stock Sti rods were that strong. Or at least since the engine was apart change em out anyway. I just don't understand the logic. Sorry op not tryin to be an a**.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:36 AM   #61
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OP, I've heard some suby drivers get better runs out of Atco.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:37 AM   #62
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121mph = 415whp, better then your 119mph, but still nowhere near 520whp
mph can depends on alot of things..not just whp.........but ok,,, i guess i am lying about my power is what you are trying to say.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:43 AM   #63
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I have a quick question. Why would you do all that engine work and leave the rods stock? This is a usdm 2.5 right? I didn't think the stock Sti rods were that strong. Or at least since the engine was apart change em out anyway. I just don't understand the logic. Sorry op not tryin to be an a**.

thats a long story...i been through alot with this setup ..time was killing me..i had a chance to get a brand new motor quick so i tossed pistons in it and put it in...the rods werent readily available at the moment and there wasnt any time available at the shop at the time to tear it down at least for a few weeks and i was very impatient. and after all the money that was spent around that time, i didnt want to waste anymore time and money...but yes...now i do regret not taking the extra time and money and putting the rods in /:
but ill be ok...everything is working out good right now..my tune was close to maxing out my injectors/pump...but thats as far as i want to go on the stock rods so im not going to change the injectors/pump..i probably can def. get some more power out of it but ive been through too much with it and so much time lost that i will just enjoy it as is instead of having any problems.

id def. like to try to go to atco...ive never been in that area yet.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:48 AM   #64
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ok....today was my 2ND time at the track.... still having only driven the car 1-2 times per week since, i decided to go to the track..still with no launch practice... i hit 12.1 at 121 (: and that was still with a lousy 2.0 60"...........so my conclusion is my LC is set too low because i somewhat bog and dont take off fast or i need practice..
Probably a little bit of both... you'll get there. I still saw huge mph jumps when I started getting my sixty foot time down from 2.0... 2.0's and 1.8s/1.7s are an entirely different animal. Good luck!!

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I didn't think the stock Sti rods were that strong. .
show us where 2.5l rods have broken.

I bet you can't find 5 motors on here with rods broken DIRECTLY from a rod failure.
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:40 AM   #66
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i did actually get a 1.9 one out of my 3 attempts...but i shifted into 2nd wayy too early because i felt a small hiccup/pop...1 out of ten times it tends to do that at exactly the same rpm..i think it was around 61-6200..my tuner says to stay in it if that happens but i shifted because thats the first time it happened to me at the track...there is another car whose dynosheet i was looking at shows the same drop BUT doesnt show up in logs...weird.....and so far no one knows who to solve that issue?! i think that run wouldve been my best yet..i ran a 121 that time as well.
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:50 AM   #67
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i did actually get a 1.9 one out of my 3 attempts...but i shifted into 2nd wayy too early because i felt a small hiccup/pop...1 out of ten times it tends to do that at exactly the same rpm..i think it was around 61-6200..my tuner says to stay in it if that happens but i shifted because thats the first time it happened to me at the track...there is another car whose dynosheet i was looking at shows the same drop BUT doesnt show up in logs...weird.....and so far no one knows who to solve that issue?! i think that run wouldve been my best yet..i ran a 121 that time as well.
Come down to Cecil Dragway on a Saturday... best time to get in some practice and I can see if I can help you out.

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wheres that?
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:20 PM   #69
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mph can depends on alot of things..not just whp.........but ok,,, i guess i am lying about my power is what you are trying to say.
Was gonna say the same thing... a certain trap speed doesnt equate exactly to a certain power level. Elevation/temp would negate that for starters...
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show us where 2.5l rods have broken.

I bet you can't find 5 motors on here with rods broken DIRECTLY from a rod failure.
I'm not wasting my time looking for broken rods for you. I was simply asking the OP why would you tear the motor apart a build this beast and not replace the rods while you were in there. I was just curious "I didn't think they were that strong". It looks like they may be. But I bet thats the weakest link now. And we all know your only as strong as......
Oh and I "think" AZSCOOBIE had a rod get bent at around 550.
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:29 PM   #71
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wheres that?
www.cecilcountydragway.com

Top north-eastern part of Maryland, not far from Jersey or Delaware or Pa.

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Old 07-13-2008, 08:05 AM   #72
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Pratice makes perfect, its fairly hard to launch these larger turbos.. However Terminal speed (mph) imo will give you an indication of the potential of the car..
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:14 AM   #73
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mph can depends on alot of things..not just whp.........but ok,,, i guess i am lying about my power is what you are trying to say.


What i think hes saying is that U.S dynos are alot more happier than AUS dynos.. That is the general consensus in AUS..
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Old 07-13-2008, 02:06 PM   #74
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the traps seem really low... but the only thing to do is keep practicing.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:59 PM   #75
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hey i was there at the track, im the one who asked you what size rims you had on. if i remeber correctly, you were shifting pretty slow and the car sounded like it was falling out of boost when you were shifting it. nice run tho, you deff need some practice to get that beast moving! but the car looks sick and sounds sick too
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