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Old 11-06-2022, 12:03 PM   #1176
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Just watched some vids and damn it I wish that was over here. Just would like to get behind the wheel of one. Definitely curious to see longevity figures at consecutive 7lb intervals, especially with a top end figure of 37. This GR Corolla might be it. I also heard the new Corolla in general is supposed to get an AWD option?
Corolla sedan (hybrid) has an AWD option. It's like 135hp total, though. Supposedly the 0-60 is down in the 8s thanks to the electric motors, but it's going to be diesel like in performance -- at best. e.g. Feels peppy around town and casual driving, but not really any power there when you really lean into it.
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Old 11-06-2022, 07:40 PM   #1177
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Corolla sedan (hybrid) has an AWD option. It's like 135hp total, though. Supposedly the 0-60 is down in the 8s thanks to the electric motors, but it's going to be diesel like in performance -- at best. e.g. Feels peppy around town and casual driving, but not really any power there when you really lean into it.
8 seconds 0-60? Good lord thatís slow. With how quick most vehicles are (hell my truck does 0-60 in like 5.7) it almost seems dangerous. You would have to go WOT just to reach freeway speeds by the time you reach the end of the on ramp.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:12 PM   #1178
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8 seconds 0-60? Good lord thatís slow. With how quick most vehicles are (hell my truck does 0-60 in like 5.7) it almost seems dangerous. You would have to go WOT just to reach freeway speeds by the time you reach the end of the on ramp.
I hope you are joking. Your average normal car doesn't do sub 6 second 0-60's... Go watch some retro Motorweek vids.
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Old 11-07-2022, 11:42 AM   #1179
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just because a car can do 0-60 in 6 second does not mean its driven like that. Most cars merge onto the free way just fine. Most people are not balls to the wall flooring it to just get on the freeway.

Using max acceleration numbers is a complete misnomer as to how safe a car is operate on a daily basis.
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Old 11-07-2022, 11:42 AM   #1180
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just because a car can do 0-60 in 6 second does not mean its driven like that. Most cars merge onto the free way just fine. Most people are not balls to the wall flooring it to just get on the freeway.

Using max acceleration numbers is a complete misnomer as to how safe a car is operate on a daily basis.
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Old 11-07-2022, 06:40 PM   #1181
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My daily Jeep XJ is a slug, but I've never felt unsafe in it here in AZ where everyone drives 20 over the speed limit.
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Old 11-07-2022, 06:54 PM   #1182
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Corolla sedan (hybrid) has an AWD option. It's like 135hp total, though. Supposedly the 0-60 is down in the 8s thanks to the electric motors, but it's going to be diesel like in performance -- at best. e.g. Feels peppy around town and casual driving, but not really any power there when you really lean into it.
I think the normal 2.5I Legacy takes like 8-9 seconds just to get to 60. So I think that is amazing. Never would have thought we would see AWD being an option for the commuting Corolla. Would love to see how it feels on the snow, maybe wouldn't venture into Tahoe in it on a extra snowy weekend, but this is a good direction.
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Old 11-07-2022, 07:10 PM   #1183
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onramps in the seattle area have a 40 mph speed limit, at least that's the fastest these drivers know how to drive. they're definitely not testing their 0-60 times.
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Old 11-07-2022, 07:51 PM   #1184
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onramps in the seattle area have a 40 mph speed limit, at least that's the fastest these drivers know how to drive. they're definitely not testing their 0-60 times.
Try going to the North Shore of Massachusetts in February, where you have uphill curving onramps (there's often no merge lane) to a 60 mph highway.

And yes, the Subaru drivers are going 60 mph in the snow, and they're always the ones you see in the trees.
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Old 11-07-2022, 09:10 PM   #1185
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onramps in the seattle area have a 40 mph speed limit, at least that's the fastest these drivers know how to drive. they're definitely not testing their 0-60 times.
Maybe utah is a different breed of drivers and Iíve forgotten what itís like out of state. Speed limit is 70 but most do 80. By the time they are entering traffic from on-ramp, itís 70mph or faster. You can predict the outcome of those still doing under 70 by the time they merge onto the freeway which is heavy braking, swerving or some combo.

So apologies for just taking utah into account. Carry on.
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Old 11-07-2022, 09:29 PM   #1186
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Maybe utah is a different breed of drivers and I've forgotten what it's like out of state. Speed limit is 70 but most do 80. By the time they are entering traffic from on-ramp, it's 70mph or faster. You can predict the outcome of those still doing under 70 by the time they merge onto the freeway which is heavy braking, swerving or some combo.

So apologies for just taking utah into account. Carry on.
god i wish it were like that. People merge at painfully slow speeds here. Speed limit is 60 and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone speeding. At lower volumes the fast lane might get up to 70 or 75. I'm typically the fastest car on the road.

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Try going to the North Shore of Massachusetts in February, where you have uphill curving onramps (there's often no merge lane) to a 60 mph highway.

And yes, the Subaru drivers are going 60 mph in the snow, and they're always the ones you see in the trees.
Yeah, I lived in Boston for a while. I loved driving there, but there are some interesting onramp situations, especially if you're driving during rush hour and the shoulders become travel lanes (aka passing lanes because so few people use them). Had my wrx at the time so it didn't bother me.
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Old 11-07-2022, 09:33 PM   #1187
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.....So apologies for just taking utah into account. Carry on.
Everybodies situation is the same..... we all just have to be unique...



As I merge onto the highway in the minivan I see people pulling out into the left lane anticipating how SLOW i'll be going, having no idea i'll be hitting 80+ and pulling away from them by the merge.....
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Old 11-08-2022, 05:36 AM   #1188
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Everybodies situation is the same..... we all just have to be unique...



As I merge onto the highway in the minivan I see people pulling out into the left lane anticipating how SLOW i'll be going, having no idea i'll be hitting 80+ and pulling away from them by the merge.....
I appreciate you so much. I'm that guy that sees a minivan merging and pulls to the middle lane. When I see someone speed up properly, I shed a little tear.

However, when I see a Forester, I pull ALL the way to the far left lane.
I've never seen a Forester merge without slowing down everyone else.
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Old 11-08-2022, 10:13 AM   #1189
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for me it is not a forester. It is a late model highlander. At any given time a Toyota is the slowest vehicle on the road.
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Old 11-08-2022, 12:05 PM   #1190
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Foresters (at least 2018 on up) feel more peppy to me than the other models. From like 5mph to 40, they feel pretty good. Probably the weight thing. You'll probably see a Hybrid model come out for the impreza to compete with the Corolla AWD.
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Old 11-08-2022, 12:11 PM   #1191
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for me it is not a forester. It is a late model highlander. At any given time a Toyota is the slowest vehicle on the road.
It's an Outback in my neck of the woods, but I'm in New England.

Never a minivan though, they're usually pedal to the floor blowing by you at 90mph+ in a 55mph zone.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:02 PM   #1192
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onramps in the seattle area have a 40 mph speed limit, at least that's the fastest these drivers know how to drive. they're definitely not testing their 0-60 times.
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Try going to the North Shore of Massachusetts in February, where you have uphill curving onramps (there's often no merge lane) to a 60 mph highway.

And yes, the Subaru drivers are going 60 mph in the snow, and they're always the ones you see in the trees.
LOL the city has put stop signs at the end of the downtown on ramps down here, I think I have yall beat.
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:20 PM   #1193
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^^^^

say what?

Yeah, you win.
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Yeah, you win.
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Old 11-08-2022, 04:28 PM   #1195
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LOL the city has put stop signs at the end of the downtown on ramps down here, I think I have yall beat.
that's ridiculous lol.

we've got stop lights at the bottom of all of our onramps for traffic metering - trying to slow down the influx of people onto the highways in rush hour. But whenever those are running traffic is usually going pretty slow anyway...
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Old 11-08-2022, 07:09 PM   #1196
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Everybodies situation is the same..... we all just have to be unique...



As I merge onto the highway in the minivan I see people pulling out into the left lane anticipating how SLOW i'll be going, having no idea i'll be hitting 80+ and pulling away from them by the merge.....
Same...I could get a ticket within a few seconds of getting on the on-ramp.
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LOL the city has put stop signs at the end of the downtown on ramps down here, I think I have yall beat.
Governments are just a Stupidity contest. Yours wins.
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:41 AM   #1198
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onramps in the seattle area have a 40 mph speed limit, at least that's the fastest these drivers know how to drive. they're definitely not testing their 0-60 times.
Ugh, itís so annoying. Once they make you brake or change lanes theyíll speed up to 10 over.
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LOL the city has put stop signs at the end of the downtown on ramps down here, I think I have yall beat.
My only on-ramp has a stop sign too, but it meets the highway at a 90 degree angle, on an incline. That way, not only we have to take a turn and speed up, but if you drive rwd you gotta hope you don't spin out while one of the tires is off the floor.
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My only on-ramp has a stop sign too, but it meets the highway at a 90 degree angle, on an incline. That way, not only we have to take a turn and speed up, but if you drive rwd you gotta hope you don't spin out while one of the tires is off the floor.
I suppose this is no worse than FWD and understeering directly into the course of freeway traffic?
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