ATTN Windows gurus - 98SE flashback edition!

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 02:28 PM

anybody got any idea why my laptop is crapping out?

got messages about the following being missing, so i replaced them:

vnetsetup.vxd
vredir.vxd
dfs.vxd
APIENUM.vxd

also received a message about HIMEM.SYS being missing, but it's there. i replaced it anyhow.

i get the BSOD after the 2nd Win98 splashscreen. i'm toying with replacing the last .vxd that the system looks for before i get the error (msmouse.vxd).

anybody got any tips? i've about exhausted the web, including all the German pages that i could read.

IBWin98?!?!?

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WagonMonster · 01-23-2004, 02:29 PM

Win 98!?!?!

ha HA!

FunkerVogt · 01-23-2004, 02:30 PM

If you can bootup in safemode, delete the autoexec.bat and reboot.

Edit: or just boot to a DOS prompt and delete it

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FunkerVogt
If you can bootup in safemode, delete the autoexec.bat and reboot.

negatory, no safemode.

aross · 01-23-2004, 02:31 PM

and re-create your network configuration

FunkerVogt · 01-23-2004, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AC Lerok
negatory, no safemode.

Can you boot to a DOS prompt? If so, do it from there.

Projekt · 01-23-2004, 02:32 PM

you can reinstall that coelocanth of an OS

VipersEatLotus · 01-23-2004, 02:33 PM

then check your 2d video drivers!!!!!!!!!!!

Keith · 01-23-2004, 02:35 PM

himem is missing? its located in a few places, where is it looking for it?
wait..ur ignoring me.
BAHAHAHA good luck then.
Keith <---supported 140 win98 machines for a year! SUCK IT!

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FunkerVogt
Can you boot to a DOS prompt? If so, do it from there.

will it recreate itself or something?

reinstall not an option, no media. this is a work computer and i'm trying to fix it before the desktop tech gets to it and pulls the old "oh, i know . . . reimage!" card on me.

FunkerVogt · 01-23-2004, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AC Lerok
will it recreate itself or something?

Yep

Keith · 01-23-2004, 02:42 PM

funker, that might now work man. The vxd files are winblowZ files. as for himem, isn't that in config sys? maybe I forgot about all this stuff

ehhehe
keith

chkltcow · 01-23-2004, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AC Lerok
reinstall not an option, no media. this is a work computer and i'm trying to fix it before the desktop tech gets to it and pulls the old "oh, i know . . . reimage!" card on me.

That's pretty much it. The vredir, vnetsup, etc are all network drivers. The way to correctly replace them is to go under the network control panel, remove TCP/IP, reboot, add TCP/IP, reboot... and it should fix it.

But the mouse error... that's bad. No clue what's causing that..... time for a reinstall!

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chkltcow
That's pretty much it. The vredir, vnetsup, etc are all network drivers. The way to correctly replace them is to go under the network control panel, remove TCP/IP, reboot, add TCP/IP, reboot... and it should fix it.

if i could get into windows, that would be great. too bad the initialization of the GUI seems to blow everything up.

chkltcow · 01-23-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AC Lerok
if i could get into windows, that would be great. too bad the initialization of the GUI seems to blow everything up.

Quote:

Originally posted by chkltcow
..... time for a reinstall!

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chkltcow

dammit.

this is what kills me . . . i installed no software, the computer shut down fine at the end of the day on Thursday. i come in this morning and kaboom. ugh. i'm hoping it's not hardware related.

FunkerVogt · 01-23-2004, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AC Lerok
dammit.

this is what kills me . . . i installed no software, the computer shut down fine at the end of the day on Thursday. i come in this morning and kaboom. ugh. i'm hoping it's not hardware related.

Before you reinstall Windows, delete the friggin autoexec.bat! That might be all you need to do in order to get back into Windows to fix whatever other problems there are.

aod · 01-23-2004, 02:58 PM

Where did you get the .vxd files from? It sounds like you got the files from a non SE version of 98. This will cause this sort of behavior.

The best thing to do would be to manually extract the .vxd files you need from the .cab files on the 98SE CD that was used to install Windows on your laptop. You can use the DOS command "extract" to extract from .cab files. This should either be on your system, or on the Win 98 SE disc. Good luck!

P.S. I'd suggest backing up the autoexec.bat instead of deleting it. There may be something configured in there that you need.

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FunkerVogt
Before you reinstall Windows, delete the friggin autoexec.bat! That might be all you need to do in order to get back into Windows to fix whatever other problems there are.

didn't work.

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aod
Where did you get the .vxd files from? It sounds like you got the files from a non SE version of 98. This will cause this sort of behavior.

The best thing to do would be to manually extract the .vxd files you need from the .cab files on the 98SE CD that was used to install Windows on your laptop. You can use the DOS command "extract" to extract from .cab files. This should either be on your system, or on the Win 98 SE disc. Good luck!

P.S. I'd suggest backing up the autoexec.bat instead of deleting it. There may be something configured in there that you need.

got the files off of an officemate's 98SE system.

and too late for autoexec.bat. bye bye.

aod · 01-23-2004, 03:05 PM

I'd definitly try getting the .vxd files from the CD then. No telling what may be different between his system and yours.

This is more than likely your culprit. I had the same version of Windows on both me and my wife's machine (back in the days of using 98, or maybe it was ME) and had to copy over some .vxd files from her machine. I couldn't get them to work, so I restored the .vxd files from CD. Viola, problem solved.

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aod
I'd definitly try getting the .vxd files from the CD then. No telling what may be different between his system and yours.

This is more than likely your culprit. I had the same version of Windows on both me and my wife's machine (back in the days of using 98, or maybe it was ME) and had to copy over some .vxd files from her machine. I couldn't get them to work, so I restored the .vxd files from CD. Viola, problem solved.

no CD. that's what is infuriating. i did a req. order for the laptop when 2000 first came out. the machine came loaded with 2000, but since it wasn't guidelined by our company yet, the techs who received the computer slapped the 98SE image on it. the only recovery CDs i have are the ones that came with the laptop . . . for WIN2K.

time to start rummaging though some desks.

C-daleRidr · 01-23-2004, 03:12 PM

Hell, just get the stuff you need while you're in DOS and try to upgrade to 2K. Then call the techs.

dmitrik4 · 01-23-2004, 03:14 PM

"helo thar l337 hax0rz!!!!"

Quote:

Originally posted by Projekt
you can reinstall that coelocanth of an OS

best computer advice evAr.

i suggest finding all .dll files and delet0ring. that should solve your problems but good.

or use this:

edit: yeah, i'm obviously no help.

AC Lerok · 01-23-2004, 03:17 PM

stick to lawyering.

01-23-2004, 02:28 PM	#1
AC Lerok Scooby Newbie Member#: 7918 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Haterz no like. Vehicle: 2007 FSXT Obsidian Black Pearl	ATTN Windows gurus - 98SE flashback edition! anybody got any idea why my laptop is crapping out? got messages about the following being missing, so i replaced them: vnetsetup.vxd vredir.vxd dfs.vxd APIENUM.vxd also received a message about HIMEM.SYS being missing, but it's there. i replaced it anyhow. i get the BSOD after the 2nd Win98 splashscreen. i'm toying with replacing the last .vxd that the system looks for before i get the error (msmouse.vxd). anybody got any tips? i've about exhausted the web, including all the German pages that i could read. IBWin98?!?!? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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FunkerVogt Scooby Newbie Member#: 4585 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Northern NJ	If you can bootup in safemode, delete the autoexec.bat and reboot. Edit: or just boot to a DOS prompt and delete it

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01-23-2004, 02:35 PM	#9
Keith Scooby Guru Member#: 191 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2012 J train Brown	himem is missing? its located in a few places, where is it looking for it? wait..ur ignoring me. BAHAHAHA good luck then. Keith <---supported 140 win98 machines for a year! SUCK IT!

01-23-2004, 02:42 PM	#12
Keith Scooby Guru Member#: 191 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2012 J train Brown	funker, that might now work man. The vxd files are winblowZ files. as for himem, isn't that in config sys? maybe I forgot about all this stuff ehhehe keith

01-23-2004, 02:58 PM	#18
aod Scooby Newbie Member#: 7121 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: D2F.1 = D2F.2, D2F.3 = D2F.4	Where did you get the .vxd files from? It sounds like you got the files from a non SE version of 98. This will cause this sort of behavior. The best thing to do would be to manually extract the .vxd files you need from the .cab files on the 98SE CD that was used to install Windows on your laptop. You can use the DOS command "extract" to extract from .cab files. This should either be on your system, or on the Win 98 SE disc. Good luck! P.S. I'd suggest backing up the autoexec.bat instead of deleting it. There may be something configured in there that you need.

01-23-2004, 03:05 PM	#21
aod Scooby Newbie Member#: 7121 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: D2F.1 = D2F.2, D2F.3 = D2F.4	I'd definitly try getting the .vxd files from the CD then. No telling what may be different between his system and yours. This is more than likely your culprit. I had the same version of Windows on both me and my wife's machine (back in the days of using 98, or maybe it was ME) and had to copy over some .vxd files from her machine. I couldn't get them to work, so I restored the .vxd files from CD. Viola, problem solved.

01-23-2004, 03:12 PM	#23
C-daleRidr Scooby Specialist Member#: 18074 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norman, Oklahoma Vehicle: 2008 Speed3 Black	Hell, just get the stuff you need while you're in DOS and try to upgrade to 2K. Then call the techs.

01-23-2004, 03:17 PM	#25
AC Lerok Scooby Newbie Member#: 7918 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Haterz no like. Vehicle: 2007 FSXT Obsidian Black Pearl	stick to lawyering.