Why isn't the WRX compared to other all wheel drive cars?

MikalsWRX · 09-07-2005, 10:54 AM

drive cars. In like car and driver they always compare it to the SRt-4, the Saturn and the new chevy. How do they pick the competition? Is it size? Price? Why not compare it to other all wheel drive cars, or are they just in another class by themselves

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Bagelw · 09-07-2005, 11:05 AM

In 2003 Car and Driver did a comparison test against the BMW 330xi, Audi S4, and WRX. The Audi won while the WRX came in second. One of the few Car and Driver test I've ever seen where a BMW came in last.

DiscoGsus · 09-07-2005, 11:08 AM

Because they do comparisons to what people will buy. Comparing the WRX to a AWD Jeep and an Endeavor is useless. They compare the competitors in a market. Hence somehting like STi vs Evo vs R32.

OrlandoSTi · 09-07-2005, 11:15 AM

Simply because Subaru doesn't want itself compared to all the other "AWD" crap that's out there in the market....

HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE !!!!!

Lethargic1 · 09-07-2005, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscoGsus

Because they do comparisons to what people will buy. Comparing the WRX to a AWD Jeep and an Endeavor is useless. They compare the competitors in a market. Hence somehting like STi vs Evo vs R32.

agreed. That being said, I need to renew my subscription. I know a lot of people don't like this mag, but I always have.

IntraWRX · 09-07-2005, 12:16 PM

i guess they dont' really compare by drivetrain, but rather by all things you mentioned--size, price, utility, etc

car and driver is super cheap to renew...it's like 3 years for 26 bucks or something

KingOfSiam · 09-07-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagelw

In 2003 Car and Driver did a comparison test against the BMW 330xi, Audi S4, and WRX. The Audi won while the WRX came in second. One of the few Car and Driver test I've ever seen where a BMW came in last.

I certaintly hope that was WRX STi they tested...

C17LOAD · 09-07-2005, 12:38 PM

no, it was before the STi came out.

They test it agianst those other cars that are FWD because nobody else makes an AWD car with good performance in the price range of the WRX. All of its competitors are 2WD. A comparison with 3 cars that a potential buyer wouldn't compare is a useless comparison. Unless its to show the differences.

fireball_jones · 09-07-2005, 12:50 PM

Someone compared it to the Mustang too. I think it's cool that the WRX gets compared to like, every car under the sun, it kind of shows it's jack of all trades nature. Even better considering out of all the cars it's compared to, it's the only one that comes in sedan and wagon form.

Lethargic1 · 09-07-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fireball_jones

Someone compared it to the Mustang too. I think it's cool that the WRX gets compared to like, every car under the sun, it kind of shows it's jack of all trades nature. Even better considering out of all the cars it's compared to, it's the only one that comes in sedan and wagon form.

Actually, it is pretty cool. Car and driver overall doesn't say many bad things about subies. Every once in a while they will attack the interior, but ONLY if it's in a category with another car that has a really nice interior. I believe it did lose out though to the EVO for overall performance when they both came out. It was a good article.

Acostafan · 09-07-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lethargic1

agreed. That being said, I need to renew my subscription. I know a lot of people don't like this mag, but I always have.

I liked it until it came to be owned by the Frenchies.....

Lethargic1 · 09-07-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Acostafan

I liked it until it came to be owned by the Frenchies.....

I was eating "freedom" fries as I read this

. I didn't know the french owned C&D

Len · 09-07-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfSiam

I certaintly hope that was WRX STi they tested...

That article was written pretty much right after WRX landed on the state side, at the peak of the hype. Having that said, I don't think the last gen 330xi is such a blast to drive anyway. It's overpriced and underpowered. Search C&D website for the article. It's a fun read.

WRXVT · 09-07-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfSiam

I certaintly hope that was WRX STi they tested...

why? THe bmw had like 225 hp and the S4 like 250, and both were several hundred pounds heavier. The wrx was faster than the 330 and about tied with the S4.

09-07-2005, 10:54 AM	#1
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09-07-2005, 11:05 AM	#2
Bagelw Scooby Newbie Member#: 41874 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Rogers, AR Vehicle: 2011 WRX Black	In 2003 Car and Driver did a comparison test against the BMW 330xi, Audi S4, and WRX. The Audi won while the WRX came in second. One of the few Car and Driver test I've ever seen where a BMW came in last.

09-07-2005, 11:08 AM	#3
DiscoGsus Scooby Specialist Member#: 47646 Join Date: Nov 2003 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: CO Vehicle: 0511 RallyBaja DGM Sedan	Because they do comparisons to what people will buy. Comparing the WRX to a AWD Jeep and an Endeavor is useless. They compare the competitors in a market. Hence somehting like STi vs Evo vs R32.

09-07-2005, 11:15 AM	#4
OrlandoSTi Scooby Specialist Member#: 70566 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Moody AFB / Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2005 Impreza STi Team Rptr	Simply because Subaru doesn't want itself compared to all the other "AWD" crap that's out there in the market.... HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE !!!!!

09-07-2005, 12:16 PM	#6
IntraWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 20773 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles, CA Vehicle: 2002 WRX Midnight Black Pearl	i guess they dont' really compare by drivetrain, but rather by all things you mentioned--size, price, utility, etc car and driver is super cheap to renew...it's like 3 years for 26 bucks or something

09-07-2005, 12:38 PM	#8
C17LOAD Scooby Specialist Member#: 25488 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dela...where? Vehicle: 2005 Impreza WRX STi "Petter Solberg Edition"	no, it was before the STi came out. They test it agianst those other cars that are FWD because nobody else makes an AWD car with good performance in the price range of the WRX. All of its competitors are 2WD. A comparison with 3 cars that a potential buyer wouldn't compare is a useless comparison. Unless its to show the differences.

09-07-2005, 12:50 PM	#9
fireball_jones Scooby Specialist Member#: 67536 Join Date: Aug 2004 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Side of the road, Somerville Vehicle: 00 AW GM6 And a bunch of parts	Someone compared it to the Mustang too. I think it's cool that the WRX gets compared to like, every car under the sun, it kind of shows it's jack of all trades nature. Even better considering out of all the cars it's compared to, it's the only one that comes in sedan and wagon form.