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Old 04-25-2002, 06:57 PM   #451
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diffs between sedan and wagon

-different front wheel well size
Different front AND rear wheel well size. Some sedans have stuffed 235's under there. With a 7.5" wheel, I'm barely rubbing the inner fender liner at full steering lock with 225's.

-no trunk to put subwoofer in for sound systems
Subee-sound has a beautiful side-mounted sub enclosure going up for sale. Tire well boxes are still an option or simply buy one of the all-in-one subs (there has got to be one out there with good sound). If its that big of a deal, forget the use of yoru folding seats and put the sub in the same place as all the other trunk owners.

-can't relocate battery to trunk
Why not? Buy a sealed battery box and then everything else is the same. I see no reasons why this can't be accomplished.

-not as many options for suspension upgrades, for example the sti suspension upgrade offers aluminum 'a' arms for sedan but not wagon
Waaaaa. Until you bend your existing 'a' arm then there is no need for the forged aluminum ones. They weigh the exact same, they are just stronger. Everything else is the same on the chassis' and the weights are almost the same. You buy suspension for the GC8 chassis or the GDA chassis with no differentiation between wagon, sedan, or coupe.

-different f/r weight distribution (I think)
And? We have the advantage there...

Waist (waste) spoilers? Do a search. Call a vendor. It looks like Vivid Racing has connections with numerous body kit manufactorers.

There might be a difference in front bumpers though. But chances are if a company makes a bumper for one, they make a bumper for the other.

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Old 04-25-2002, 06:57 PM   #452
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Don't forget to mention the difference in A-Pillar size, between the wagon and sedan. I would loved to have known that one before I bought my Autometer A Pillar gaugepod

BTW, i have a custom built speaker box in my wagon, holding a 10" solobaric sub...i can post some pics if anyone wants to see them.
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Old 04-25-2002, 08:06 PM   #453
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Thanks, Stimpy, your a real prince. I'm sure you've listed everything!

Trent, I'd guess that just starting another thread would just blunt the effect of having one place to go to for any unusual wagon situations. It'd be nice to have one place to be able to go to, rather than having to listen to people say DO A SEARCH (sound familiar, Stimpy).

I know that you're busy enough to not want to have to play those games, I just really don't have the time or patience to deal with reading through endless piles of garbage to get to one intelligent comment in a thread.

But you've been around longer than me, I'll take your suggestion, but ask others to comment to.

I_Club is a good place to go to for information, I just wish it were just as easy to get info from other wagon owners than it is to get info about WRX Sedans with 500 HP doing 9 second laps at indianapolis, then getting a ticket for giving the finger to an undercover traffic cop!

Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Thanks, Ron
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Old 04-25-2002, 08:27 PM   #454
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yeah, post em up, lagnwagn!
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Old 04-25-2002, 08:39 PM   #455
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I was responding to the difference comments by GOATLIP, thanks though jersey judge.

Instead of bitching about the problems searching, how bout you let us all know what is different and what you cant find answers about. I said search on the waist spoilers because I found enough information within 2 minutes of reading. For EVERYTHING I've needed answers on, it has been faster to search and read than it has been to start a new post. If you need some wagon specific information, title your new post appropriately and the people will respond.

I've been trying to address the differences you guys seem to think justify a new forum. So far, nothing comes close to being so drastically different that we could have a whole forum about it. If you want to break out forums because of subtle differences, lets go ahead and segregate the foresters, all legacies (hell, lets have a sedan and legacy wagon forum), then we might as well create an old EA powered forum too. You break out the forums and you get less traffic. Less traffic means less answers. Period. I don't know about you, but I enjoy sapping off the knowledge of ALL the MY02 owners rather than just a very select few.

Anyhow, it's obvious you don't want my presence here even though I 'have been here a lot longer' and my knowledge in no way applies to your skewed logic. I'm done here.

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PS. If you really want to give it a go, you should start yourself a new thread titled 'Justification of a Wagon Forum' and try your hardest to invent some real differences that would justify this. Either way, I'll still go to the specific forums rather than the generic forums that you so desire.
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Old 04-25-2002, 10:54 PM   #456
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Stimpy,
My list of the various differences between the sedan and the wagon were meant to be observations rather than complaints. It was in no way a clarion call for a separate forum. If I had felt that the wagon was inferior in any way to the sedan, well I would have bought a sedan. Of course I am sure all wagon owners have gleaned tons of information from the various forums, nevertheless, when researching different mods that I'd like to make to my wagon, I often use the term "wagon" in my search. Such as " subwoofer...wagon." I am clearly not the only one doing this, thus the popularity and longevity of this thread. Far from being a thread that is about "bitching," I would hope that it is about taking a positive step towards celebrating the uniqueness of the wagon, and addressing any issues that are specific to the wagon. In that spirit, thank you for addressing the various differences that I brought up. I am sorry that you find this issue to be so aggravating, but please continue to post in this thread so I may go on learning from your sage advice and basking in your pleasant vibes.

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Old 04-25-2002, 11:53 PM   #457
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I'm sure most everyone has already seen these, but hell, to keep the wagon thread alive --- --
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Old 04-25-2002, 11:55 PM   #458
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Old 04-25-2002, 11:58 PM   #459
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Old 04-26-2002, 08:57 AM   #460
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Gloatlip, thank you

Stimpy, bye!!
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Old 04-26-2002, 09:06 AM   #461
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Well, Ron, I'll start with some of the mod "problems" then. I just found that when I went to install my Cusco rear STB that I will need to trim some of the plastic interior panels to get it to fit. FYI for anyone who is thinking of doing this. I have no idea if it is just the Cusco piece or not. I did verify that this is the STB for the GF chassis, too.

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Old 04-26-2002, 09:55 AM   #462
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Old 04-26-2002, 11:57 AM   #463
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Just thought I'd throw in a pic of the Cusco strut bar in my WRX wagon so that no one would think there's a problem w/the new age Impreza sedan/wagon rear strut bars. This fits both sedan and wagon on the New Age platform. There still may be differences on the GF platform (as dsmawd pointed out) though.



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Old 04-26-2002, 12:02 PM   #464
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Old 04-26-2002, 12:42 PM   #465
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Yeah, Stephen, on my bar the bracket is flat, completely flat. So I am going to have to trim the plastic below the strut attachment points. I knew I would need to trim up the caps to get them back on, but I was hoping that would be it. I'll post some pics after I'm done.

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Old 04-26-2002, 10:29 PM   #466
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I can't believe I have never posted pic's here. Probably because i'm stock on the exterior Oh well here we go.

crapy pic
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Old 04-26-2002, 11:51 PM   #467
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Old 04-27-2002, 05:15 AM   #468
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Old 04-27-2002, 05:17 AM   #469
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Old 04-27-2002, 05:33 AM   #470
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Old 04-27-2002, 06:43 AM   #471
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Those are some nice pics, SWEETWRX! I dig the subtle sticker job, even though I usually don't like stickers at all...

What bodykit is that?
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Old 04-27-2002, 06:50 AM   #472
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OEM......Adam from Z1 Got it for me...I think after new headlight and fmic....I'm done...maybe grill Hmmmm......thanks for the input...just got her back a few days ago
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Old 04-27-2002, 09:01 AM   #473
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To SIlver_Sport Trac:

And who asked your opinion? What kind of Subaru Wagon do you have?

FORD??????

Is that a new model, or are you just a Subaru wannabee?????





DSMAWD, did the STB's make a noticeable difference? I'd been thinking about getting them for both front and rear. Thanks for the tip on the rears, I'll probably go with whiteline. But a lot of people said they really don't think they matter a lot unless you do a LOT of competition. Especially in the rear.

I've done the adjustable rear sway bar with new end links (whiteline, I happen to like baby blue, and the price was right), and there was a definite difference. People have said that adding a front strut brace will probably give a little more oversteer, but most comments on the rears said forget it and get coilovers instead. No need to mention price difference is there?

Thanks for sharing your experience with these items on a wagon instead of a sedan.

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To SIlver_Sport Trac:

And who asked your opinion? What kind of Subaru Wagon do you have?

FORD??????

Is that a new model, or are you just a Subaru wannabee?????

Ron

somebody got their panties in a wade...... .............blkwrxwgn and i have been raggin on each other all day, it wasn't intended to offend other wagon owners, just blkwrxwgn.

i'm not a subaru wannabee......i'm an 18yr old full time student who just can't afford two $24K cars! and since you feel so much bigger than me just because you actually own a subaru, then :monkey:

pisses me off when people go off because i have a "ford".......i bought my ST so i could do this.......and because the wrx came out months after i bought the ST....

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