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Old 02-04-2017, 07:06 PM   #1301
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This is the motor failure thread. Check out the FA20DIT reliability poll thread and add your info there!
Thank you and will do. I didn't even see it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:12 AM   #1302
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Model/Year: 2015
Mileage: 23xxx
EM: Cobb AP Flex Fuel - Bren Tuning
Mods: Turboback, EBCS, TGV/EGR delete, intake, intercooler
Fuel: E66
Oil: Pennzoil 5w-30
Circumstances: E-Tune Logging
Actual engine failure: Was e-tuning with Bren, I previously had a 91 tune and went with Bren for the Etune. Bren sent me a base map and told me to run 91 first. I did a few log of 91 (felt much slower than old map), then was told to run E70. Added about 12 gallons of E85 which came out to E66 on the flex fuel reading on the Cobb AP. Drove the car around for 20 mins, fuel pressure and stuff was fine. So I went to do a WOT log, then shot the rod through the block.

Sent a log to Bren, he said the fuel pressure was low, but it was at least 2000psi throughout.

Google sheet of the log. feedback knock went crazy after explosion as expected.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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Old 02-15-2017, 01:45 AM   #1303
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Model/Year: 2015
Mileage: 23xxx
EM: Cobb AP Flex Fuel - Bren Tuning
Mods: Turboback, EBCS, TGV/EGR delete, intake, intercooler
Fuel: E68
Oil: Pennzoil 5w-30
Circumstances: E-Tune Logging
Actual engine failure: Was e-tuning with Bren, I previously had a 91 tune and went with Bren for the Etune. Bren sent me a base map and told me to run 91 first. I did a few log of 91 (felt much slower than old map), then was told to run E70. Added about 12 gallons of E85 which came out to E66 on the flex fuel reading on the Cobb AP. Drove the car around for 20 mins, fuel pressure and stuff was fine. So I went to do a WOT log, then shot the rod through the block.

Sent a log to Bren, he said the fuel pressure was low, but it was at least 2000psi throughout.

Google sheet of the log. feedback knock went crazy after explosion as expected.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Just curious as to why you went with an e-tune instead of a pro tune? I'm sorry to hear about your car and I wish you the best of luck. Let us know if your warranty covers it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:28 AM   #1304
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Just curious as to why you went with an e-tune instead of a pro tune? I'm sorry to hear about your car and I wish you the best of luck. Let us know if your warranty covers it.
E tune is the easier option and I didn't have time to go get a pro tune. Also, Bren was one of the popular tuner on this board, so I didn't think it would matter.

I did get lucky with warranty.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:32 AM   #1305
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E tune is the easier option and I didn't have time to go get a pro tune. Also, Bren was one of the popular tuner on this board, so I didn't think it would matter.

I did get lucky with warranty.
thats good to hear at least!

man this is making me scared of going FF soon. I was planning on doing an e-tune with Mikey Botti or Ron Watson when I did get the Cobb FF set up.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:38 AM   #1306
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E tune is the easier option and I didn't have time to go get a pro tune. Also, Bren was one of the popular tuner on this board, so I didn't think it would matter.

I did get lucky with warranty.
Really glad to hear you were covered. Sounds like your dealer is mod friendly. Can you tell us which dealer and if you originally bought the car from them? Also, are you planning on getting a pro tune now? Personally I would not use any OTS or E-Tune maps but that is strictly my personal preference.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:49 AM   #1307
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Really glad to hear you were covered. Sounds like your dealer is mod friendly. Can you tell us which dealer and if you originally bought the car from them? Also, are you planning on getting a pro tune now? Personally I would not use any OTS or E-Tune maps but that is strictly my personal preference.
A "pro" tune would have tossed a rod through the block too. A damn tuner cant make the rods stronger with his laptop.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:55 AM   #1308
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A "pro" tune would have tossed a rod through the block too. A damn tuner cant make the rods stronger with his laptop.
Yeah I understand that but during a pro tune it's much different when the tuner is feeling the actual car and especially with going with the flex fuel kit I would be cautious. You mentioned your fuel pressure was really low and shot to 2000 psi. Who installed the flex fuel kit for you and why did your fuel pressure go to ****?
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:02 AM   #1309
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Yeah I understand that but during a pro tune it's much different when the tuner is feeling the actual car and especially with going with the flex fuel kit I would be cautious. You mentioned your fuel pressure was really low and shot to 2000 psi. Who installed the flex fuel kit for you and why did your fuel pressure go to ****?
you misread.

tuner said fuel pressure was low.

he said it was 2000 the entire time.

to whomever asks about warranty and dealer names...just dont ask these types of questions. dont he naive. there is no dealer that will knowingly warranty a modified vehicle and want SOA to know about it. please be discreet.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:14 AM   #1310
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you misread.

tuner said fuel pressure was low.

he said it was 2000 the entire time.

to whomever asks about warranty and dealer names...just dont ask these types of questions. dont he naive. there is no dealer that will knowingly warranty a modified vehicle and want SOA to know about it. please be discreet.
Isn't there an entire thread about mod friendly dealerships or did I read that some where else? If SOA believes every WRX and STI that rolls into a dealership for warranty service work is bone stock I would be inclined to say that is naive but that is probably not the case. Reality is if it happened to a stock vehicle due to weak OEM components IE the connecting rods there is data that backs up the warranty. If suddenly you start having wrxs roll in with blown transmissions that is not common then I would think SOA would question it. Yes I know certain dealers turn a blind eye and it's nice to know they are still willing to help us out. Just my opinion
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:19 AM   #1311
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my point is that we must be discreet about it.

should we start posting where we can go to pass smog?

I know which dealer I can go to and specifically which service advisor. I also know where I can pass. There is no way on God's green earth that I will put that information out there.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:28 AM   #1312
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my point is that we must be discreet about it.

should we start posting where we can go to pass smog?

I know which dealer I can go to and specifically which service advisor. I also know where I can pass. There is no way on God's green earth that I will put that information out there.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:39 AM   #1313
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At least four people on this list were protuned, it doesn't matter.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:41 AM   #1314
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Really glad to hear you were covered. Sounds like your dealer is mod friendly. Can you tell us which dealer and if you originally bought the car from them?
I rather not disclose it on a public post. I am located in CA anyways.
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:42 PM   #1315
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2008 WRX
2nd owner at 32k miles
Rod knock sound at 56k
#4 cyc main bearing spun.
Unknown what caused failure. engine might have been .5 qtr low, may have had a couple 5k 5.5 RPM drives.
Oil: Synthetic, Valvoline, Royal Purple
Filter: Subaru.
No Tune.
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Only use Rotella T6 oil and added Dimple magnets to oil filter
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:44 PM   #1316
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2008 WRX
2nd owner at 32k miles
Rod knock sound at 56k
#4 cyc main bearing spun.
Unknown what caused failure. engine might have been .5 qtr low, may have had a couple 5k 5.5 RPM drives.
Oil: Synthetic, Valvoline, Royal Purple
Filter: Subaru.
No Tune.
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Only use Rotella T6 oil and added Dimple magnets to oil filter
Wrong thread
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:24 AM   #1317
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Has anyone had a problem on an MAP e-tune? 15+wrx
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:30 PM   #1318
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Model/Year:2015
Milage:26k
EM: Stock
Mods: Stock
Fuel:93
Oil:5w30 Subaru
Circumstances: Been through 2 shortblocks plus original. First Shortblock replaced because Oil consumption at 11k, took the dealer until 19k to replace. 2nd Shortblock lasted 2k before rod knock. 3rd Shortblock nothing knock, but davcs not working properly and timing chain and tensioners replacement. Still at dealership.
Actual engine failure: Lemon
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:47 PM   #1319
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Once the dealer goons get heir hands on it, the chances of additional issues increase exponentially.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:00 AM   #1320
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yikes! On normal fuel too wow. What other Mods were u running?
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:05 AM   #1321
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O didn't see stock. Well from the sounds of it you aren't paying out of pocket i would hope.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:51 AM   #1322
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Model/Year: 2015 Subaru WRX
Mileage: 28,000 (22,000 on motor)
EM: Cobb Flex e-tune Mikey B
Mods: Everything, built short block, custom turbo kit.
Fuel: 91
Oil: T6 5W-40
Circumstances: First time on 91 octane, only 16psi for base tune logging, did one third gear pull, couple minutes later rough engine + tons of white smoke + some oil. Previous 16,000 miles on E70 with 26psi no issues.
Actual engine failure: TBD...only head gaskets I hope. It's been in my garage for 3 weeks, I just decided to move forward and rebuild versus part out. Contacted a mechanic and hopefully he has time to help. I think I rev'd it too high on 91 octane, should only rev up to 7k on ethanol. That + fatigue probably what caused it. Not faulting tune at all.

Data log of pull 91 octane: http://datazap.me/u/ustemuf/91-blew-me
Data log of a E70 pull: http://datazap.me/u/ustemuf/e70-efr7064
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:34 AM   #1323
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Model/Year: 2015 Subaru WRX
Mileage: 28,000 (22,000 on motor)
EM: Cobb Flex e-tune Mikey B
Mods: Everything, built short block, custom turbo kit.
Fuel: 91
Oil: T6 5W-40
Circumstances: First time on 91 octane, only 16psi for base tune logging, did one third gear pull, couple minutes later rough engine + tons of white smoke + some oil. Previous 16,000 miles on E70 with 26psi no issues.
Actual engine failure: TBD...only head gaskets I hope. It's been in my garage for 3 weeks, I just decided to move forward and rebuild versus part out. Contacted a mechanic and hopefully he has time to help. I think I rev'd it too high on 91 octane, should only rev up to 7k on ethanol. That + fatigue probably what caused it. Not faulting tune at all.

Data log of pull 91 octane: http://datazap.me/u/ustemuf/91-blew-me
Data log of a E70 pull: http://datazap.me/u/ustemuf/e70-efr7064

Damn ... So you blew 2 engines 1 at 16k miles and your fresh built engine?? , what turbo on each setup when they blew ?
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:12 AM   #1324
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Model/Year: 2015 Subaru WRX
Mileage: 28,000 (22,000 on motor)
EM: Cobb Flex e-tune Mikey B
Mods: Everything, built short block, custom turbo kit.
Fuel: 91
Oil: T6 5W-40
Circumstances: First time on 91 octane, only 16psi for base tune logging, did one third gear pull, couple minutes later rough engine + tons of white smoke + some oil.
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Do you notice any amount of coolant missing from the reservoir? White smoke is almost definitely coolant so maybe a head gasket did go. How does the oil level and color look? Is it low, are there metal shavings, or does it look kind of like a milkshake?

I would also check spark plugs as one could have failed and put a hole in the piston. It would also give you an indication if there is coolant and/or oil in the combustion chamber as the spark plug itself may be coated.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:03 AM   #1325
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Once the dealer goons get heir hands on it, the chances of additional issues increase exponentially.
THANK YOU, wish more people understood this. just go stage 2 and replace your own motor when it fails, done.
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