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Old 10-20-2019, 05:41 PM   #1351
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Stop vaping - your sarcasm detector is malfunctioning.
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:28 PM   #1352
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Pre can't say ANYTHING about my blind loyalty compared to this guy. ^^^^↑↑↑↑

The STI is not worth the price. You don't have to be rich to know that. Only a collector doesn't care about price. That's what this is, a collector's item. They're meant to be overpriced.

As a standard purchase, it doesn't make any sense, and it's okay to complain about it.
Iím gonna be optimistic for the 2021. What got me excited was one of the tuners working on the Ascent motor and getting big power of it with no issues. But like you Iím stink eying the deal hoping they keep the manual in it.
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Old 10-21-2019, 02:31 AM   #1353
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Checks in.. Reads the $65K (before ADM) price..

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Old 10-21-2019, 03:24 AM   #1354
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Checks in.. Reads the $65K (before ADM) price..

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Old 10-21-2019, 02:02 PM   #1355
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This thought process has been endlessly beaten to death. If all you care about is straight line and dry weather performance, then why are you even looking at the STI? The whole point of buying an STI is for the AWD system and it's ability to handle well in challenging (and good) weather and road conditions, 4 doors and seats 5 . Also, it's super easy to make 450+whp reliably (if you know what you are doing) on a bone stock EJ STI long block. In addition, the S209 is a finished product and not something you need to make whole sale modifications to after purchase and it has a full factory warranty. However, if all you want to do is modify the crap out of it, then buy the base STI. The S209 isn't for you.

To wrap things up, there's no reason to bitch about the price. If you can't afford 60K, it doesn't manner if it's an S209, Corvette, BMW or some other car in that price range. You can't afford it. So don't bitch about it, instead get a better job.
I never said I was only concerned about straight line and dry performance. I had 3 Subarus and tuned & raced all of them for years so I am familiar with the advantages and capabilities. The only reason I was considering a next gen STI is because AWD would be nice again for our winters and I really want to keep a stick shift. I still hope that this car sees big improvements in performance, handling (less understeer please), and fit and finish, but I am afraid I am going to be disappointed again like I was with the last generation.

I was really hoping that the S209 would be in the Lightning Lap this year so I could consider it because handling and track capability are very important to me. But all the reviews I have read so far just say that the car has more grip and the seats are still too wide. That should not justify the large price increase for anyone. If you like the S209 so much why are you not buying one?

My job pays me handsomely and I can afford to buy any car I like, but I don't need to be stupid with my money so don't make dumb assumptions. You don't even have a car from this decade so clearly you are the one who should consider a new job.

My top considerations for my next car are an M3, M2 CS, CT4 blackwing, and possibly a next gen STI or Golf R, but I am afraid I will just be disappointed in the fit/finish and features of the last two. I might consider a Supra or C8 if they ever come from the factory with a manual transmission, but I really have my doubts about that too.
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Old 10-21-2019, 05:37 PM   #1356
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so this has a oil cooler, tranny cooler, front center and rear diff coolers right? cause track car.
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Old 10-21-2019, 06:41 PM   #1357
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so this has a oil cooler, tranny cooler, front center and rear diff coolers right? cause track car.
hell na brah.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:02 PM   #1358
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you just can't afford it
Yep,, all my money goes to vape and new Subaru long blocks...

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Old 10-21-2019, 11:45 PM   #1359
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I never said I was only concerned about straight line and dry performance. I had 3 Subarus and tuned & raced all of them for years so I am familiar with the advantages and capabilities. The only reason I was considering a next gen STI is because AWD would be nice again for our winters and I really want to keep a stick shift. I still hope that this car sees big improvements in performance, handling (less understeer please), and fit and finish, but I am afraid I am going to be disappointed again like I was with the last generation.

I was really hoping that the S209 would be in the Lightning Lap this year so I could consider it because handling and track capability are very important to me. But all the reviews I have read so far just say that the car has more grip and the seats are still too wide. That should not justify the large price increase for anyone. If you like the S209 so much why are you not buying one?

My job pays me handsomely and I can afford to buy any car I like, but I don't need to be stupid with my money so don't make dumb assumptions. You don't even have a car from this decade so clearly you are the one who should consider a new job.

My top considerations for my next car are an M3, M2 CS, CT4 blackwing, and possibly a next gen STI or Golf R, but I am afraid I will just be disappointed in the fit/finish and features of the last two. I might consider a Supra or C8 if they ever come from the factory with a manual transmission, but I really have my doubts about that too.
Holy crap. Member #12. OG in da house!
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:07 AM   #1360
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OG cheap ass hater burnin down da hoooooose. Love longblock long time.
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:34 AM   #1361
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Hey, bruh. You can't talk unless you buy it first. Put yo monay where ya mowf izz.
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:00 PM   #1362
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Holy crap. Member #12. OG in da house!
Respect. It's been over 20 years now- damn! I liked Subaru for a long time and had a lot of fun tracking my Subarus over the years. I was really hoping the last gen WRX & STI were going to be as cool as the WRX concept, but Subaru let me down. I went upmarket with my vehicles after that and now Subaru styling just doesn't do it for me and the insides still look really cheap.

I am really hoping that the next get STI is a big improvement in every way so I can come back. AWD and stick shift is a nearly impossible combo to find now. My last few cars have been RWD just to keep the stick shift. They are ok in snow with the right tires, but AWD is still way more fun in the snow. Now if Subaru could just figure out a RWD based AWD system and move some of that weight toward the back we would be in business.
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:18 PM   #1363
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Good news, you can finance this for 3.49% over 63 months.
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:30 PM   #1364
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Good news, you can finance this for 3.49% over 63 months.
I'll take two
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:15 PM   #1365
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Respect. It's been over 20 years now- damn! I liked Subaru for a long time and had a lot of fun tracking my Subarus over the years. I was really hoping the last gen WRX & STI were going to be as cool as the WRX concept, but Subaru let me down. I went upmarket with my vehicles after that and now Subaru styling just doesn't do it for me and the insides still look really cheap.

I am really hoping that the next get STI is a big improvement in every way so I can come back. AWD and stick shift is a nearly impossible combo to find now. My last few cars have been RWD just to keep the stick shift. They are ok in snow with the right tires, but AWD is still way more fun in the snow. Now if Subaru could just figure out a RWD based AWD system and move some of that weight toward the back we would be in business.
Focus RS blueprinted that type of AWD system with the GKN Twister spinning the rears faster than the fronts, and torque vectoring. Someone will smarten up and put this system on the front axles also so 4 half shafts torque vectoring instead of just the rears on the RS. I'm optimistic about the new STi. I hope the engine is sturdy, and they dial out the inherent understeer. If they muck it up, I'm also going RWD.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:42 PM   #1366
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:43 PM   #1367
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This is not a joke folks.
The majority are blue so if you want white you better get your name on the reservation list quick.

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Old 10-22-2019, 07:26 PM   #1368
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Now accepting orders for 2019 S209's in the Bay area!!!!!

I can't think of a better group of people who may have an interest in this.

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Old 10-22-2019, 08:02 PM   #1369
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You mean to tell me all the collectors haven't scooped these up yet...???

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I can't think of a better group of people who may have an interest in this.

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Old 10-22-2019, 09:07 PM   #1370
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I'm selling insurance specifically for the S209. And air fresheners. And trophy plaques. S209 fondu forks are now 50% off. Get yours for that special 209-ish person in time for stocking stuffing. S209 stockings in stock ready to ship!!!
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:22 PM   #1371
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:04 AM   #1372
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S209 fondu forks
Those better be forged.
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Old 10-23-2019, 04:17 AM   #1373
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Good news, you can finance this for 3.49% over 63 months.
I don't even know why Subaru bothers with "special" financing on this car; serious buyers will have their financing all figured out given the equally serious price tag.
Besides, [email protected]% is not even competitive compared to what most credit unions can do right now.
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Old 10-23-2019, 07:38 AM   #1374
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Sorry I thought I was the dude in Florida. My bad.

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Old 10-23-2019, 08:21 AM   #1375
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Now accepting orders for 2019 S209's in the Bay area!!!!!

I can't think of a better group of people who may have an interest in this.

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I'll take one in white for $55k which is about all it's worth.
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