STX BRZ/FRS Setup-Discussion Thread - Page 4

bdi · 11-12-2012, 12:27 PM

Pretty sure all new 4150 series AST's are aluminum bodied.

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ABQautoxer · 11-12-2012, 12:27 PM

All the shocks yes, but my understanding is the strut applications are still steel, I think I found it on their site.

04trailsti · 11-12-2012, 12:39 PM

I know the 4150's were suppose to be quite a bit lighter. So that lead me to believe the bodies are alum. but I could be wrong.

ABQautoxer · 11-12-2012, 12:41 PM

http://www.vorshlag.com/documents/AS...essRelease.pdf

em99sport · 11-12-2012, 08:12 PM

From what I've heard, the strut bodies will remain steel, while the shocks will be aluminum. If the twins are similar to the GRs, the steel front AST 41xxs will still be lighter than stock with the right springs (Swifts in my case).

dwx · 11-25-2012, 02:16 PM

Saw T1R is looking at making a single-exit Ti catback if they get enough interest in it. Without the resonator they are talking 10lbs for the entire catback.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22912

My guess is it probably doesn't sound the greatest but they haven't released any sound clips yet so maybe it's better than I imagine.

I'm going to stick with my Perrin catback for CS since I don't like the single exit look for daily driving and I can drop the Perrin muffler and put a downturn on in like 10-15 minutes.

GTB/ZR-1 · 11-26-2012, 04:14 PM

I wonder if the turndown would work w/ a header & cat, dB-wise?

ABQautoxer · 11-26-2012, 04:27 PM

All depends on the mid section has a resonator or not I think. I have a resonated catback, and will have a catted front pipe, overpipe, and non-catted header. Depending where that ends up I might remove the resonator. Simmons has everything but the header and is non-resonated so he can better speculate.

dwx · 11-26-2012, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

I wonder if the turndown would work w/ a header & cat, dB-wise?

The one I made is pointed straight at the ground under the middle of the car since it connects to the Perrin midpipe. It's not that quiet but it would be hard for it to trigger a sound meter even it if was louder with a catless header or front pipe. The only issue is it's not in a well supported place with regards to exhaust hangers. But using some Kartboy stiff hangers helped.

GTB/ZR-1 · 11-29-2012, 03:16 PM

Interesting stuff. I have determined I want it quiet, since I've finally given up my pickup as a daily after many years (and I'm getting old lol). Will probably go catless header, catted front, resonated mid to axle back (phwew!) Then introduce downturn before AB.

A plan?

ABQautoxer · 11-29-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

Will probably go catless header, catted front, resonated mid to axle back (phwew!) Then introduce downturn before AB.

A plan?

Similar to mine except I'm went with the Perrin resonated catback. Unless the header makes it 15dB louder I should be good to go as a daily driver. Right now my exhaust is actually more quiet than I would like.

Simmons-Racing · 12-01-2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABQautoxer

All depends on the mid section has a resonator or not I think. I have a resonated catback, and will have a catted front pipe, overpipe, and non-catted header. Depending where that ends up I might remove the resonator. Simmons has everything but the header and is non-resonated so he can better speculate.

I love the way the car sounds with the Perrin over pipe, hfc front pipe, and un res cat back. I did not try it with out the muffler yet, that was my plan for big events to get a v-band turn down and remove the muffler. I am thinking about the borla UEL header without a cat, so that might be too loud altogether.

Simmons

Scooby South · 12-01-2012, 10:40 AM

Headers: If you had your choice of what type of headers to put on the car, Would they be:
4/2/1 ...4/1 ...EL or UEL to make the best power/torque...
What is your opinions???

Me: 4/2/1 EL would probably be the best for AutoCross..Should help with the Midrange and coming off the corner.. I have input to a header design and want the best performance.

Bill

bdi · 12-02-2012, 09:56 PM

I think its tough to say right now Bill. So many are in development right now. I know Perrin took a stock header (which is a 4-2-1) and removed the cat. They then made a EL (they said it was more equal volume) 4-1 and said the 4-1 made more power/potential for power gains. Just some food for thought.

Scooby South · 12-03-2012, 11:51 AM

^^^ Thank you sir..

Agreed... one reason I haven't jumped on the first thing to show up..

Bill

GTB/ZR-1 · 12-10-2012, 04:07 PM

Thread slowing down...

Put the LithiumPros batt I had in Godzilla in. Weight savings 25.5 lbs. Car otherwise still completely stock, down to alignment.

This may sound crazy, but turn-in seemed a touch better after that.

Another useless vid--had PAX until pipped by my competitor--he came out of nowhere. May have been the BMW grunt that did it (and his car is mostly prepped for STX).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFU4d...ature=youtu.be

Simmons-Racing · 12-12-2012, 10:17 PM

I just ordered the Borla UEL Header from JSC Speed,

I can't wait to here it

Simmons

Scooby South · 12-13-2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmons-Racing

I just ordered the Borla UEL Header from JSC Speed,

I can't wait to here it

Simmons

As much as I want a good Subie Rumble..I am not convinced that the UEL is going to make power. From My findings, it may actually loose power. :/ sorry. Waiting for some Dyno time to see..

.. It should sound amazing tho.

Bill

Simmons-Racing · 12-13-2012, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby South

As much as I want a good Subie Rumble..I am not convinced that the UEL is going to make power. From My findings, it may actually loose power. :/ sorry. Waiting for some Dyno time to see..

.. It should sound amazing tho.

Bill

I will find out in a couple weeks, we are still finding gains in the tune.

Simmons

Scooby South · 01-04-2013, 05:37 PM

^^^ any news...

Bill

Simmons-Racing · 01-05-2013, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby South

^^^ any news...

Bill

Still waitng for it, couple more weeks

Simmons

Scooby South · 01-11-2013, 05:08 PM

looking forward to getting this installed at some point..

Simmons-Racing · 01-11-2013, 05:27 PM

Damn, going all out

Simmons

senna1a · 01-11-2013, 06:10 PM

Sweet Jesus that is beautiful...

Scooby South · 01-11-2013, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmons-Racing

Damn, going all out

Simmons

pretty much...that was the plan the whole time..

.. I don't want the car not to have a chance because of prep...It has to come down to me driving...period..

..not something that I failed to do prep wise..

Bill

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11-12-2012, 12:27 PM	#76
bdi Scooby Specialist Member#: 66033 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Dergo, CA Vehicle: 05 STi	Pretty sure all new 4150 series AST's are aluminum bodied. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

11-12-2012, 12:27 PM	#77
ABQautoxer Scooby Specialist Member#: 198231 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2007 Not a Subaru	All the shocks yes, but my understanding is the strut applications are still steel, I think I found it on their site.

11-12-2012, 12:39 PM	#78
04trailsti Scooby Specialist Member#: 179170 Join Date: May 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Behind the wheel Vehicle: 2005	I know the 4150's were suppose to be quite a bit lighter. So that lead me to believe the bodies are alum. but I could be wrong.

11-12-2012, 12:41 PM	#79
ABQautoxer Scooby Specialist Member#: 198231 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2007 Not a Subaru	http://www.vorshlag.com/documents/AS...essRelease.pdf

11-12-2012, 08:12 PM	#80
em99sport Scooby Newbie Member#: 172670 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: RTP, NC Vehicle: 2011 STI 5-door	From what I've heard, the strut bodies will remain steel, while the shocks will be aluminum. If the twins are similar to the GRs, the steel front AST 41xxs will still be lighter than stock with the right springs (Swifts in my case).

11-25-2012, 02:16 PM	#81
dwx Scooby Guru Member#: 8343 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Atlanta, GA Vehicle: 2005 2012 Jeep 2013 DGM BRZ	Saw T1R is looking at making a single-exit Ti catback if they get enough interest in it. Without the resonator they are talking 10lbs for the entire catback. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22912 My guess is it probably doesn't sound the greatest but they haven't released any sound clips yet so maybe it's better than I imagine. I'm going to stick with my Perrin catback for CS since I don't like the single exit look for daily driving and I can drop the Perrin muffler and put a downturn on in like 10-15 minutes.

11-26-2012, 04:14 PM	#82
GTB/ZR-1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 88127 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winter Garden, FL Vehicle: 2009 Datsun GT-R Red	I wonder if the turndown would work w/ a header & cat, dB-wise?

11-26-2012, 04:27 PM	#83
ABQautoxer Scooby Specialist Member#: 198231 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2007 Not a Subaru	All depends on the mid section has a resonator or not I think. I have a resonated catback, and will have a catted front pipe, overpipe, and non-catted header. Depending where that ends up I might remove the resonator. Simmons has everything but the header and is non-resonated so he can better speculate.

11-29-2012, 03:16 PM	#85
GTB/ZR-1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 88127 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winter Garden, FL Vehicle: 2009 Datsun GT-R Red	Interesting stuff. I have determined I want it quiet, since I've finally given up my pickup as a daily after many years (and I'm getting old lol). Will probably go catless header, catted front, resonated mid to axle back (phwew!) Then introduce downturn before AB. A plan?

12-01-2012, 10:40 AM	#88
Scooby South Subtly Outspoken Moderator Member#: 238 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: OG05 STi 51E	Headers: If you had your choice of what type of headers to put on the car, Would they be: 4/2/1 ...4/1 ...EL or UEL to make the best power/torque... What is your opinions??? Me: 4/2/1 EL would probably be the best for AutoCross..Should help with the Midrange and coming off the corner.. I have input to a header design and want the best performance. Bill

12-02-2012, 09:56 PM	#89
bdi Scooby Specialist Member#: 66033 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Dergo, CA Vehicle: 05 STi	I think its tough to say right now Bill. So many are in development right now. I know Perrin took a stock header (which is a 4-2-1) and removed the cat. They then made a EL (they said it was more equal volume) 4-1 and said the 4-1 made more power/potential for power gains. Just some food for thought.

12-03-2012, 11:51 AM	#90
Scooby South Subtly Outspoken Moderator Member#: 238 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: OG05 STi 51E	^^^ Thank you sir.. Agreed... one reason I haven't jumped on the first thing to show up.. Bill

12-10-2012, 04:07 PM	#91
GTB/ZR-1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 88127 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winter Garden, FL Vehicle: 2009 Datsun GT-R Red	Thread slowing down... Put the LithiumPros batt I had in Godzilla in. Weight savings 25.5 lbs. Car otherwise still completely stock, down to alignment. This may sound crazy, but turn-in seemed a touch better after that. Another useless vid--had PAX until pipped by my competitor--he came out of nowhere. May have been the BMW grunt that did it (and his car is mostly prepped for STX). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFU4d...ature=youtu.be

12-12-2012, 10:17 PM	#92
Simmons-Racing Scooby Specialist Member#: 274179 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Macungie, PA Vehicle: 2013 Subaru BRZ Blue	I just ordered the Borla UEL Header from JSC Speed, I can't wait to here it Simmons

01-04-2013, 05:37 PM	#95
Scooby South Subtly Outspoken Moderator Member#: 238 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: OG05 STi 51E	^^^ any news... Bill

01-11-2013, 05:08 PM	#97
Scooby South Subtly Outspoken Moderator Member#: 238 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: OG05 STi 51E	looking forward to getting this installed at some point..

01-11-2013, 05:27 PM	#98
Simmons-Racing Scooby Specialist Member#: 274179 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Macungie, PA Vehicle: 2013 Subaru BRZ Blue	Damn, going all out Simmons

01-11-2013, 06:10 PM	#99
senna1a Scooby Newbie Member#: 231943 Join Date: Dec 2009 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Columbus, OH Vehicle: 2011 Sti & '03 Bugeye	Sweet Jesus that is beautiful...