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Old 04-19-2005, 05:36 PM   #26
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Well my rears are 17x8.5 et 48 with the 255, i dunno if that helps at all.
Of course that help

I was just pointing out 17x9 +53 won't fit in the rear with the stock strut, I hope I didn't sound too mean
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:12 PM   #27
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yup, no offence taking. It will fit with coils from what i have seen in those hyper revs. Heck there is even a car running 17x9.5 front and 17x9 rear, not sure on wheel specs though.
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:20 PM   #28
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So the consensus is if I run a 17x9 in the back with a 44/43 ET I will likely rub on the fender.
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:29 PM   #29
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yup, no offence taking.
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It will fit with coils from what i have seen in those hyper revs. Heck there is even a car running 17x9.5 front and 17x9 rear, not sure on wheel specs though.
I used to think that way, if I see a car with a certain set of wheels on Hyper Revs, it must fit on my stock car...... Then I go over to the Tokyo Auto Salon to check out the actual car in person, well guess what, some of those cars with crazy wide wheel and super low offset have custom hub assembly, custom suspension arms, custom lateral links, custom half shaft, custom coilover with modified strut mounting point, hollow out wheel well.......etc, you know what I mean? Some wheels that fit on those cars would never fit on a stockish car
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:36 PM   #30
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So the consensus is if I run a 17x9 in the back with a 44/43 ET I will likely rub on the fender.
it would fit, but your fender lip have to be rolled flat with -2 degrees of camber, tire width is another critical measurement here, 255 should be fine, but remember different tire have different width, a 255 Bridgestone can be much wider then a 255 Toyo. Another thing is the ride height and suspension stiffness, if the ride height is high and the suspension is stiff, you can put 345 on and it won't rub, vice versa.......

Simply put, 17x9 +43 is very very aggressive, so every mm count.......

Good luck and have fun. These kind of things are all trial and error, every car is different because of the different set up.
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:51 AM   #31
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Where is everyone finding 17x9s in the 5x100s? Or are they all custom wheels?
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the car just can't turn a whole lot
It may not count as a street car but why wouldnt it turn a whole lot?
Another note on that car is the front and rear fenders are both cut slightly, and the tires are currently 285s, though he could obviously go as wide as he wants now.
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:55 AM   #32
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Mine will be custom. There are a lot of euro wheel manufactuers who make 5x100 17x9" wheels but the offsets are in the 35-20 range.
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:57 AM   #33
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Dang, I was hoping someone found some off the shelf 17x9s.
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Old 04-20-2005, 02:06 AM   #34
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Custom forged can be had in the 1800 range. Depending how you look at it thats either really cheap or really expensive.
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:26 AM   #35
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one of a few places i found that would make a custom sized 3-piece wheel and that was HRE. Expensive, but well worth the quality and style...
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Volk CE28 is available is 17x9 for 5x100 pattern. For the rear, you'll most definitely need to roll and flatten your fenders, the front will be OK.
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Old 04-20-2005, 09:56 AM   #37
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Only 17x9 wheels in 5x100 in good offsets i know of, are enkei tarmac, volk ce28, and racing hart cp035
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:07 PM   #38
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Dang, I was hoping someone found some off the shelf 17x9s.
A few have mention already, Volks CE28 comes in 5x100, 17x9, +43mm....... combine with Enkei Tarmac and Racing Hart cp035, that are enough choices I would say...
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:11 PM   #39
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Where is everyone finding 17x9s in the 5x100s? Or are they all custom wheels?
They are available, see above posts.

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It may not count as a street car but why wouldnt it turn a whole lot?
Another note on that car is the front and rear fenders are both cut slightly, and the tires are currently 285s, though he could obviously go as wide as he wants now.
I was saying if it is wide like 335, 345...... the wheel well is not big enough for the wheel to turn.
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Old 04-21-2005, 12:05 PM   #40
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tires that stick outside of the fender with 1000 lbs springs suspension that don't travel at all don't count in my book. With those kind of set up, the width is limitless, the car just can't turn a whole lot

You would be amazed just how well a car can turn with a setup like that. I have done a little testing on my 17x11 CCW's with 315 V710's (Joel's car - in the pic - is on 17x10.5's and 305's), and I have had no problem getting rotation.

Now, I don't know that you will DEFINITELY have rubbing issues. I had 17x9 5zigens on the STi when the suspension was still stock and had little to no rubbing even before I modified the fenders. There was slight rubbing on hard cornering, but nothing that a little stiffer suspension couldn't fix.

I'm just looking forward to getting my current daily drivers back on the car - 18x9 OZ Superleggera's with 265 MX's.. - those did require the fender modification.

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Old 04-21-2005, 02:10 PM   #41
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You would be amazed just how well a car can turn with a setup like that. I have done a little testing on my 17x11 CCW's with 315 V710's (Joel's car - in the pic - is on 17x10.5's and 305's), and I have had no problem getting rotation.
I wasn't referring to rotation, I was talking about the wheel not being able to turn all the way to make U-turn. I was thinking of daily driveability, not race track performance I am sure the car turn great on the track with 315

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Now, I don't know that you will DEFINITELY have rubbing issues. I had 17x9 5zigens on the STi when the suspension was still stock and had little to no rubbing even before I modified the fenders. There was slight rubbing on hard cornering, but nothing that a little stiffer suspension couldn't fix.
The ride height on the stock suspension is so high, I am not surprise. The tire is the main factor too, you can squeeze some 225s on the 9' and it would never rub.

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I'm just looking forward to getting my current daily drivers back on the car - 18x9 OZ Superleggera's with 265 MX's.. - those did require the fender modification.

~ Miranda
I like your style, wider is better I am currently on 18x8.5 with 255/35, going to 265/35 next, there are still planty of room left with the 255, I don't think 275 would clear the fender though, also 275/35 is too tall and 275/30 is too short, so I guess 265/35 is the widest I can go on this car

I would love to see a pic of your 18x9 OZ Superleggera's with 265 MX's on your car, it would be great if you can post a pic
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I will post as soon as they're done being painted.

*Edit* BTW - When I had the 17x9's on, full lock turning wasn't a problem. With the 11 inch wheels with 315's, it's only barely a problem. I just had to push the bumper out with a support rod.

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Old 04-21-2005, 02:38 PM   #43
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I will post as soon as they're done being painted.
Thanks, I am looking forward to it! I haven't seen pics of a "street/daily driver" STi with 265s on yet I will post pics of my set up once I get the 265s on, 255s are too narrow to show off now

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*Edit* BTW - When I had the 17x9's on, full lock turning wasn't a problem. With the 11 inch wheels with 315's, it's only barely a problem. I just had to push the bumper out with a support rod.

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I can't even imagine how good the car would stick with 315
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It's just absolutely, stupidly retarded.
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It's just absolutely, stupidly retarded.
I bet
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:20 AM   #46
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I wasn't referring to rotation, I was talking about the wheel not being able to turn all the way to make U-turn. I was thinking of daily driveability, not race track performance I am sure the car turn great on the track with 315
Actually I can turn lock-to-lock without any issues. Regardless, the configuration is not for daily driving. The fenders are modified so that the tires move underneath them rather than inside them. The tires are 285/30/18 on 18x10.5" wheels. Just wanted to set the facts straight.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:49 AM   #47
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man i want to go wide (well sort of wide) , but i want to keep my drop . think i can fit some like 17x8.5's /+45 & 235/40in here? i had to modify the fender well a little with this, but no rubbing anymore. maybe if i find the right rims, raising the car won't be so bad.i have somethign good in mind :

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Old 04-24-2005, 07:14 AM   #48
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Volk CE28 is available is 17x9 for 5x100 pattern. For the rear, you'll most definitely need to roll and flatten your fenders, the front will be OK.
yes, but will the 17x9 i think its in a +43 offset, fit over the brembo's?
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of course it will... there 9 inches deep!
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Its not the depth that'll get ya, its the spoke design. If the spokes bulge outward, you'll be fine, if they are flat one might have a problem.

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