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Old 11-11-2004, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default HELP!! Trade '03 WRX up to '03 Evo???

Hey everybody, I got my '03 wagon back in August and I love it, no question about it. As I've learned more and more about modding and these cars in general, I'm guessing that I am going to end up spending easily about $3-$4K just on initial stuff (Stage 2 equipment). Now, I have been finding '03 Evos for about $25K with some mileage as low as 8-12k miles on them. I am "above" on my loan (owe $12k, car is dealer worth about 15-16K) and would probably make about $4k from the trade in on the rex, plus I could put down $4k. That being said, with my credit history ( ) I would probably be able to get the car for about $415/month for 60mos. This is obviously a lot cheaper than getting a used STi and although they are similiar there are still differences.

so... what should I do?? Keep the rex and just mod it and then try to shoot for stock evo/STi performance numbers or just go blow the wad now?
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:45 PM   #2
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You're going to go from owing $12k to owing $17k, if I'm reading your #s correctly. 5 grand can go a long way in a WRX. You should be able to go beyond a stock Evo 8 on that kind of money fairly easily. Plus, you'll still have more utility with the wagon.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:05 PM   #3
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Agree with what Rail says. You can mod your WRX to get Evo-ish powers easily. Save money on your insurance and you keep your monthly payments as it is now.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:05 PM   #4
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I see used STi's with similar mileage going for similar prices all the time.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:16 PM   #5
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Good point Rail.

Lowend - We dont see STi's around here for anything less than $27/28k.
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Old 11-11-2004, 10:48 PM   #6
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You're going to go from owing $12k to owing $17k, if I'm reading your #s correctly. 5 grand can go a long way in a WRX. You should be able to go beyond a stock Evo 8 on that kind of money fairly easily. Plus, you'll still have more utility with the wagon.
Spend 5 grand in a Wrx and it'll go beyond a stock Evo 8? If you spend all that money into engine mods it'll definately go faster (straight-line) than a stock Evo 8.

But I wonder how much money one will need to spend upgrading the suspension, strut bar, sway bar and etc...to make a stock wrx handles like the Evo. Stock Wrxs and Evos are in two different worlds. Go for the trade and you won't regret it. You'll get a fast car + a few years of warrenty left if you keep your Evo stock.

Oh and did I mention that the brembo brake kit can cost up to 2 grand alone?
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Old 11-11-2004, 10:54 PM   #7
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Hey everybody, I got my '03 wagon back in August and I love it, no question about it. As I've learned more and more about modding and these cars in general, I'm guessing that I am going to end up spending easily about $3-$4K just on initial stuff (Stage 2 equipment). Now, I have been finding '03 Evos for about $25K with some mileage as low as 8-12k miles on them. I am "above" on my loan (owe $12k, car is dealer worth about 15-16K) and would probably make about $4k from the trade in on the rex, plus I could put down $4k. That being said, with my credit history ( ) I would probably be able to get the car for about $415/month for 60mos. This is obviously a lot cheaper than getting a used STi and although they are similiar there are still differences.

so... what should I do?? Keep the rex and just mod it and then try to shoot for stock evo/STi performance numbers or just go blow the wad now?
Dude Evo's are cheaper than STi's because they blow... With that said take it from some one who put 12K+ into his 02WRX... Save your coin! Drive the stay-wag, and when the time is wright buy an STi... you won't be happy with a Rattle-CAN Evo... Don't settle
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Old 11-11-2004, 10:59 PM   #8
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First of all, do not trade the car in. Sell it private party. Second, if that is what you want, go for it. I sold my '02 WRX back in March and was absolutely going to by an Evo. Extremely nice low mileage ones were going for around 24k (less than I paid out the door for my WRX). In the end, I found a great deal on an STi and went that route instead. Ended up lowering my payment and it already had almost everything I wanted to add to the WRX (more power, brakes, better suspension etc.) - STOCK, with full warranty.
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Old 11-11-2004, 11:01 PM   #9
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Dude Evo's are cheaper than STi's because they blow... With that said take it from some one who put 12K+ into his 02WRX... Save your coin! Drive the stay-wag, and when the time is wright buy an STi... you won't be happy with a Rattle-CAN Evo... Don't settle
Yes, take advice from a guy that makes smart financial decisons.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:33 AM   #10
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I'm in a hard position for sure. I really like the STi's and Evo's but financially I am in a better position to just mod what I have as I go along, instead of dropping another $4k here, losing $2k on the trade in / private sale, etc. But it's so tempting.. sooo tempting. I may go look at a black Evo tomorrow - 12,000 miles, $25,9k.

RTS EVO VIII - I would have to spend just 4-5k alone on the engine itself your thinking? If I got the rex up to 300hp at the crank, wouldnt that be closing in on the stock evo and STis??
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JM530: it sounds like u already know what ur gonna do, so this is gonna fall upon deaf ears. I would not do it $415 for 60 months and start payments all over again...no way man. Ur willing to risk buying a used evo? u think it's been babied? i would find that way to hard to believe. I seriously hope once u get ur evo, it was not a demo car or beaten to hell...good luck to u.
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^^ sure, you'll be closing in on the stock evo or sti in terms of acceleration, but handling, braking, aerodynamic and body rigidity is a different story.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:32 AM   #13
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sell the rex privatly and buy the evo privatly (or STI)
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:50 AM   #14
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and its gonna be awesome when you get all those mods on the wagon, and your transmission explodes. just happened to me on my 2.5rs-t, and my friend with his 300 awhp wrx. unless of course you feel like spending the 3k for a good gearset. sti ra's are good but. they'll go eventuallly if you get into the upper 300 hp range. yes its very agrivating believe me. just go with the sti or evo. Their trans's and blocks are a lot stronger then the ej20.
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:26 AM   #15
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^^ sure, you'll be closing in on the stock evo or sti in terms of acceleration, but handling, braking, aerodynamic and body rigidity is a different story.
Agreed. Plus.. I hope you don't expect to get the high HP numbers with the stock WRX tranny. I have 2 friends with EVOs, and if I could do it again I would go that route.
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Old 11-12-2004, 12:01 PM   #16
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hmmm... wouldn't the stock WRX tranny be able to handle 300hp ( at the crank, not whp). God, I am really contemplating this though. Financially it does make more sense to stick with the rex... but.. hahaha.. the Evo or an STi.. *****.. I just dont know.
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I have 320hp (cobb stage 2.5) and it handles it fine. But I don't want to go up from here.

Also you have to worry about the WRXs stock internals when you get up in the higher numbers
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I have 320hp (cobb stage 2.5) and it handles it fine. But I don't want to go up from here.

Also you have to worry about the WRXs stock internals when you get up in the higher numbers


How do you compare the acceleration to a stock STi or Evo?
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:37 PM   #19
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I put 3 cars on a stock EVO from 40-120mph. Never got to race an STI, so I couldn't say. Regardless of how popular STIs are, I NEVER see any to race around here
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I put 3 cars on a stock EVO from 40-120mph. Never got to race an STI, so I couldn't say. Regardless of how popular STIs are, I NEVER see any to race around here
you what?? put 3 cars?
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Sorry.. using short-term I was 3 carlengths ahead of him by the time we hit 120mph.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:23 PM   #22
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ah... I see, VERY nice. I think I will keep the rex then and then just wait for the next STi
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:57 PM   #23
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if you want some sort of track beast, then id say go for the evo as they have much better potential as far as power goes. If you just want a nice daily drive that has some oomf to it keep the rex and go stage 2 or so.. the wrx wagon is a nicer car for everyday uses.. but youre gonna end up hitting your max power for a dependable car much sooner in a rex than an evo
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Live with your current car. If you swap now, you'll want to swap again in 2 years when the newest hottest thing is out there. Resist the urge.

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Old 11-12-2004, 05:16 PM   #25
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John - good point. That's what I am thinking too. I will patiently await the next STi.

Dave6265 - you made some good points.

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