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Old 02-10-2018, 07:45 AM   #1
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The powertrain might not be the same as the Ranger Raptor in the Asia-Pacific market.

Ford recently gave the Ranger Raptor a surprise introduction in Thailand, but the company was tight-lipped about the off-road-ready midsize pickup's prospects to come to the United States. Ford Product Communications Manager Mike Levine now signals on Twitter that there's at least a chance of the truck coming to America.

In a separate tweet, Levine also suggested the possibility of powertrain changes if the Ranger Raptor actually comes to the U.S.


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When the new Ranger arrives in the U.S., the closest thing to the Raptor at launch is the FX4 Off-Road package. It packs rugged parts like Dana Trac-Lok differentials, an electrically locking rear diff, steel skid plates, off-road-ready shocks, and all-terrain tires. The Terrain Management System has settings for tuning the truck for Grass, Gravel and Snow, Mud and Ruts, and Sand.

The American-market Ranger will use a 2.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder and ten-speed automatic. Ford doesn't release output specs for this version of the engine yet, but the mill produces 310 horsepower (231 kilowatts) and 350 pound-feet (475 Newton-meters) in the 2018 Mustang. The Blue Oval also doesn't yet have public details about the truck's towing capability, fuel efficiency, and price.

The Ranger will go into production later in 2018 and be on sale for the 2019 model year. It'll arrive amid a booming market for midsize pickups. The Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon, and Toyota Tacoma are established players in the segment. Plus, there are new competitors on the way like a new generation of Nissan Frontier and Hyundai truck.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:11 AM   #2
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Evidence points to the baby Raptor being alive in America, but nothing is confirmed.

The Ford Ranger Raptor debuted back in February, just not for the U.S. market. Since then we’ve seen a left-hand drive Ranger Raptor with manufacturer license plates rolling on American soil. We’ve seen coy “what if” messages from Ford about the high-performance truck that allude to a North American presence. Now, the folks at Ranger5g.com may have uncovered definitive proof that a U.S. Spec baby Raptor is coming. Patent filings in Australia are said to show a different Raptor design than what the manufacturer’s Australian website shows. That alone isn’t damning evidence, but the filing also lists a U.S. patent application number for the Ranger Raptor. Now that’s interesting.

The number is 29/634999 and before you go hammering away on Google, know that, I searched for that number at the US Patent and Trademark Office website and came up empty-handed. So did the guys on the Ranger forum, but that doesn’t mean the information is bad. Companies filing patents do have the option of keeping things private until the application is approved. Furthermore, a new Ranger5g member by the name of JYC claims the number is a legitimate filing, and that the 29 prefix indicates the filing is a design application.

This is all circumstantial, but if the info is accurate it could be a smoking gun for Ranger Raptor's imminent arrival in North America. The mysteries now are when we’ll see it, and what will it offer for power. The answer to the first question could well be either the Los Angeles Auto Show, or the 2019 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. That seems logical considering we only just received pricing info for the standard Ranger.

As for power, the overseas Raptor gets a 2.0-liter twin-turbo diesel making 210 horsepower (157 kilowatts) and a whopping 359 pound-feet (500 Newton-meters) of torque. In one of those “what if” moments from Ford, it was suggested a U.S.-spec Ranger Raptor would keep its petrol-powered 2.3-liter turbocharged engine. Then again, it was also suggested recently that a Ranger Raptor wouldn’t come to the States at all.

This is a very interesting turn-of-events for a truck that, as far as we can tell, seems to be a no-brainer for Ford to offer in the U.S. market. Time will tell if this latest info is accurate, or if it's just a red herring.

Ranger Raptor patent filing provides evidence of US market release
The Ranger Raptor has already been announced for the Australian market. But, Ford has not yet announced it for the US market.

This Ranger Raptor patent design filing appearing on the Australian IP office's website provides strong evidence that it is indeed destined for the US. In fact, the patent images seen here may very well be actual patent images of a US model.

We draw this conclusion based on the fact that 1) the Ranger Raptor depicted here features a sport bar (the model shown on the Ranger Raptor Australian website does not) and 2) the patent filing references a corresponding US Design Patent Application (Number: 29/634999) filed on January 26, 2018 in The United States. Our search for this design patent application on the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) website did not yield the US design patent application, but the USPTO allows patent applications to be kept private by the applicant until the patent is approved/issued. Considering Ford has not yet announced the Ranger Raptor for the US market, it would make sense for the company to keep the design patent application private.

Of course this isn't the first strong evidence that the Ranger Raptor is destined for the US market as a LHD prototype has already been spotted testing in the US (Michigan). See our spy video below.
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https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threa...-release.1009/







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This truck been out in Asia for quite awhile as is the GM Colorado as Isuzu pickup with 3.0 diesel Dmax . Lots of aftermarket stuff cheap on aliexpress.com
https://www.ford.co.th/en/buying/latest-offers/
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:33 AM   #5
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"We understand that you guys want this truck that we already make, we understand that the offroader market is currently growing in the US, and we also know that we recently announced that we'd be selling fewer cars so that we can focus on trucks and SUVs in the US, but **** you guys. Maybe we'll offer it sometime in the future if we feel like it."

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Old 08-16-2018, 11:29 AM   #6
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The regular Ranger comes with the 2.3L eco boost. Not enough motor for a truck. The GM Canyon/Colorado come with a V6 standard, turbodiesel optional. This turbo diesel should be the standard engine and the Raptor version should have something more substantial in it, at minimum the 2.7 EB nut preferably the 3.5 given how much they’ll charge for it.
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The regular Ranger comes with the 2.3L eco boost. Not enough motor for a truck. The GM Canyon/Colorado come with a V6 standard, turbodiesel optional. This turbo diesel should be the standard engine and the Raptor version should have something more substantial in it, at minimum the 2.7 EB nut preferably the 3.5 given how much they’ll charge for it.
I would figure the 2.3e would be plenty for the ranger. Hell it's gonna have more hp and torque than a taco......at least I'm guessing it will. Coupled with the ten speed Auto and proper gearing it should be very nice. With that being said I wouldn't snub my nose at either of of the v6 Ecoboost motors
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If they use the 10 speed auto, they have enough gears to make up for the final HP number.
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If they use the 10 speed auto, they have enough gears to make up for the final HP number.
Assuming that the 2.3 in the ranger makes the same power as the mustang then it would be the most powerful midsize truck. The 10spd is just a bonus, it's a pretty good tranny.

Would be cool if they made a hopped up 2.3 for the raptor
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I would figure the 2.3e would be plenty for the ranger. Hell it's gonna have more hp and torque than a taco......at least I'm guessing it will. Coupled with the ten speed Auto and proper gearing it should be very nice. With that being said I wouldn't snub my nose at either of of the v6 Ecoboost motors
I’ve driven the latest Ridgeline with Honda’s SOHC V6, and 6spd auto. I have a hard time believing a 4 banger would match it, and it has torque vectoring AWD. 20k version Rangers sure. 30k+ I want a 6 cylinder or diesel.
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It’s been spotted testing up here in Canada not too far from where I am... fully undisguised too.

https://driving.ca/ford/ranger/auto-...uthern-ontario
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I’ve driven the latest Ridgeline with Honda’s SOHC V6, and 6spd auto. I have a hard time believing a 4 banger would match it, and it has torque vectoring AWD. 20k version Rangers sure. 30k+ I want a 6 cylinder or diesel.
Again assuming the 2.3e ranger has the same HP and torque as the mustang, I'm not sure the Ridgeline being down 30ish hp and 90ish ft/lbs could would be much of a match. Especially considering the 10spd auto can keep the turbo 4 in a good power band.

I don't care what motor the truck has as long as it gets the job done. If the raptor comes here my zr2 will be gone real quick
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With the weight of a midsize truck you would be constantly pushing a turbo 4 cylinder to stay in the power band just to keep up with traffic, which is not good for longevity or fuel economy.

I would much rather have a larger engine that didn't need to be pushed hard all the time.
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Again assuming the 2.3e ranger has the same HP and torque as the mustang, I'm not sure the Ridgeline being down 30ish hp and 90ish ft/lbs could would be much of a match. Especially considering the 10spd auto can keep the turbo 4 in a good power band.

I don't care what motor the truck has as long as it gets the job done. If the raptor comes here my zr2 will be gone real quick
We'll see. The acceleration numbers for the Ridgeline are excellent. 0-60 MPH (empty bed mind you) it's as fast as my RSX Type S was, which is pretty impressive. If you have experience with AWD, you'd be damn surprised with that Honda, on a test drive with some corners. The AWD system and torque vectoring are impressive. The engine is excellent and they aced the transmission, the shift points are awesome. I'm still extremely impressed with the new one and it will be my next addition to my fleet. The only negative thing I can say about it is the trims, but Honda is doing Subaru, putting one or two options you really want only on the top trim. I was/am looking at a RTL AWD

I have the same 2.3L EB in my RS and there are some benefits to having a forced induction setup over N/A. Basically you'd be able to mod the Ranger easily, safely, and land at 380/425 reliably. But that depends upon the head they put on it. The RS/EB block will handle up to 450 ft lbs, 600+ if you brace it. But it still won't have that torque vectoring AWD setup.

Let's see on the Raptor. Other markets it's a turbo diesel. That's the perfect motor for it. And it will be able to be modded. But I'd like to know who is building that motor. The problem is diesel motors here, f man, the EPA, it's like a manu has to go suck their D to get it through and available for USDM.
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With the weight of a midsize truck you would be constantly pushing a turbo 4 cylinder to stay in the power band just to keep up with traffic, which is not good for longevity or fuel economy.

I would much rather have a larger engine that didn't need to be pushed hard all the time.
The 2.3 seems to do well for the explorer, which I'm betting will be similar weight as the ranger. And it has 4 less gears to work with
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I think it will be enough engine, as was discussed in the other thread, they probably wont put the 3.5 in it, it would be cannibalistic to the big raptor. I bet it will be pretty equivalent, pound for pound. And just because the diesel isnt out the first year doesnt mean it wont come. GM waited until the second MY for diesel on the Colo/Canyon, and 3 model years to release the ZR2, so...who knows

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While I agree that it's not enough differentiation for the USDM Raptor version of a mid size truck these days to use the same 4 cylinder turbo as the base model, 310 / 350 is a lot of power and the torque is accessible at low RPM. Coupled with a 10 speed AT it's plenty usable, regardless of the image associated with a 4 POT in something "manly" like a truck.

I'd much rather have a DI turbo four than any small displacement NA six these days, the torque delivery is vastly superior and pretty much everything is durable now.

Personally the 2.7TT gasser or a HO diesel would be great for the Ranger Raptor though.
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I'm just giddy that of the ranger raptor comes stock with 33's then 35' probably won't be out of the question. Plus the aftermarket support would be huge.

That's my biggest beef with my zr2, the dn square wheel wells are harder to get a larger tire in
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I'm just giddy that of the ranger raptor comes stock with 33's then 35' probably won't be out of the question. Plus the aftermarket support would be huge.

That's my biggest beef with my zr2, the dn square wheel wells are harder to get a larger tire in
The Diesel ZR2 is still awesome AF though.
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With the weight of a midsize truck you would be constantly pushing a turbo 4 cylinder to stay in the power band just to keep up with traffic, which is not good for longevity or fuel economy.
It’ll be fine. Hell, the 5000lb F150 comes with a 2.7L.

I love my 3.5, rediculous power and the transmission always gives me the right gear, quickly. I recently got 23mpg on a 180 mile (mostly) highway trip.
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The Diesel ZR2 is still awesome AF though.
That it is.

I am thinking about doing a compound turbo set up on mine
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That it is.

I am thinking about doing a compound turbo set up on mine
You are local to me so I’m interested on your take on it. Gotta a mini-Review? On pavement I’m convinced of the Ridgeline and that AWD system. But I’m planning a move somewhere where there are dirt/mud trails for access to secluded beaches where I could utilize off road capability. Ridgeline will handle light off road no problem, but nowhere near the ZR2, and I love Diesels for a number of reasons. I’d be willing to swap keys if you are interested in flogging a RS through the local twisties
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You are local to me so I’m interested on your take on it. Gotta a mini-Review? On pavement I’m convinced of the Ridgeline and that AWD system. But I’m planning a move somewhere where there are dirt/mud trails for access to secluded beaches where I could utilize off road capability. Ridgeline will handle light off road no problem, but nowhere near the ZR2, and I love Diesels for a number of reasons. I’d be willing to swap keys if you are interested in flogging a RS through the local twisties
We have local Twisties?

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Yes sir, great ones in fact, and not that far from ya. From 635/75 interchange, about 35-40 minutes but I do not divulge my routes online. Used to be busy on the weekends on rides on my bikes but sportbike market has tanked so pretty free except for the squares you have to pass. A lot of fun. I ride most weekends until we dip into the 30’s, then I take the car and slide through turns. Subaurban sprawl will kill them over the next ten years and when their cooked my plan is to be outtie 5000.
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