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Old 06-13-2019, 07:32 AM   #1
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The e will make its first UK appearance at this year's Goodwood Festival of Speed. It will take to the event's hillclimb course, with another on display on the Honda stand.

Honda says the e that will appear at Goodwood will be "95% true" to the production version. The latest version of the NSX hybrid supercar will also appear on the Japanese firm's Goodwood stand.

The e is the production version of the Urban EV concept, which was revealed at the 2017 Frankfurt motor show, and Honda has confirmed that many of that car's features will reach the final model as standard. These will include the camera wing mirror system, which Honda claims reduces aerodynamic drag by around 90%. That is said to improve the efficicency of the entire vehicle by 3.8%, playing a significant role in maximising range.

The camera system will feature two modes: a normal mode and a wide mode with an extended field of view, and Honda claims they reduce blindspots by at least 10% compared to mirrors. A special water-repellent coating will be used to stop water obscuring the driver's vision.



Honda recently began taking orders for the e, ahead of first deliveries beginning in spring 2020. Mirroring the process of rivals such as Tesla and Peugeot with the e-208, potential customers are invited to cough up a reservation fee of £800 for "priority status" in the order books. Those customers will be invited to place a full order later this year. The e's pricing is still yet to be announced, but as with most reservations, the fee is refundable if buyers change their mind.

A near-production version of the e was shown at this year's Geneva motor show, dubbed the e Prototype. Honda has confirmed the 'e' name will stay for the production version and revealed a selection of available paint options for customers at launch. The firm believes the car’s retro design will give it an Apple-style appeal to customers.

It maintains the styling of the Urban EV, albeit with the addition of an extra set of doors. While Honda has yet to reveal full technical details of the car, its designers told Autocar at the Geneva show that it would offer "more than" 98bhp and 221lb ft of torque.

Honda has said there are more than 6500 people in the UK who have expressed interest in the e so far. Pricing has yet to be set, but Autocar understands a ballpark figure is £35,000.

Project manager Kohei Hitomi said the machine had been the subject of an internal “battle” over whether to put it into production, with the positive reaction to the concept being a key factor in it gaining approval.

The car is slightly shorter than the Jazz and around 100mm taller than the Mini hatchback. It is built on a new platform designed for A and B-segment electric cars, with underfloor batteries produced by Panasonic that are similar to those used in the US-market Accord plug-in hybrid. The rear-mounted electric motor drives the rear wheels, which employ torque vectoring to give a smoother response and improved handling in tight corners.

As well as featuring cameras instead of rear-view mirrors, there are also flush door handles to further boost aerodynamic efficiency, while the charging port is mounted centrally in the bonnet.



The cockpit of the e prototype is dominated by two 12in touchscreens, built into a dashboard finished with a wood-effect trim. The seats – including a two-seat bench in the rear – are covered in polyester, which, as with the wood effect, is designed to make the interior feel like a living room.

The e will be built in Japan and go on sale in selected European markets in late 2019, with others following in 2020. It will also be sold in Japan.

Hitomi said it is “important” the car is affordable but he added: “A low price is not always a guarantee of success. When you look at Apple products, they are not cheap, but everyone wants to have them because of their added value. We believe it is the same for the electric vehicle.”
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:02 AM   #2
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damn that looks cool... I hope we get it here
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:14 AM   #3
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Cept for the wheels, that’s a pretty dope little ride. I love the shape.
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50:50 RWD hatchback; color me intrigued.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:17 AM   #5
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50:50 RWD hatchback; color me intrigued.

I was thinking of you when it said RWD
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I was thinking of you when it said RWD
I would take this over a model 3, even though the dash is just a ton of screens, I like it better than the "one tablet to rule them all" design style; more importantly though, all of the controls on the column, wheel, and dash with a specific purpose.

IF it makes it to the US and can get out of it's own way in at a reasonable clip (221lbft should do it) & has reasonable range, I'm in. I'm worried about the 33.5kWh pack though, that screams city car and 100mi+/- range.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:08 AM   #7
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If you look at that dash and then look at a model 3 dash you can see one company can design cars, and the other cannot.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:10 AM   #8
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If you look at that dash and then look at a model 3 dash you can see one company can design cars, and the other cannot.
I was thinking a similar thing: "huh, a digital dash that doesn't look like dog ****."

I'd take this over an i3.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:39 AM   #9
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Love it, looks like my old 76 civic inside and out, they kept all the best little styling cues
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Love it, looks like my old 76 civic inside and out, they kept all the best little styling cues
exactly what I was thinking;flash back to my 79 Civic CVCC 4-speed with the wood decal across the recessed dash. If it drives anything like that, it'll be a hoot.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:56 AM   #12
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I just found out the CVCC had a premium interior available that I was not aware of. Wood wheel, shift knob and some gauges in the dash? oh my. Don't tell me it had AC and an FM radio.
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I love the design of this thing, absolutely love it.

If this came to the US, I would give it a HARD look. Sounds like it'd be a little slower than my current ride, but I might be able to get over that depending on how it drives in reality - I don't often get to use more than 50-60% of the R's capacity. It would shift my current vehicle use dramatically - I'd have to use the Outback more as my ride to the mountains, but my wife would be able to drive this since it's not manual, so it could be an option.

Do you hear me Honda? I'm not even your target demographic, and I'd consider it. Bring it here.
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And i can make proper smoothies with a vitamix using the 230v 1500w rated plug outlet
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This is awesome. Love the retro modern look. Plus, it has real tires instead of the bicycle wheels on the i3.
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If you look at that dash and then look at a model 3 dash you can see one company can design cars, and the other cannot.
I had to google Model 3 interior to see what you mean but man, I definitely agree. That Model 3 dashboard is ridiculously stupid. One center mounted tablet to do everything...
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I own a 2019 i3 and like it a ton (quick, comfortable and RWD). But in 3 years when I plan on moving on, if this was available, it would be on the top of the list.

I refuse to drive an FWD in any size, shape or form.

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Old 06-13-2019, 04:31 PM   #18
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I'll pile on the love fest. This thing is way cool and I'd entertain getting one over the TypeR or Touring Sport Civic that I've been eyeing.
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Looks good, but too bad this will have the range of a base model Leaf.
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...ntegra-type-r/
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:40 PM   #21
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I thought Tesla tried to get the door-mount rear-view cameras approved for the Model X and couldn't. Has legislation changed? If so, I could see a lot of them switching.
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I'll definitely be interested if they can bring it to market with a 200+ mile range and a reasonable price.
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Old 06-15-2019, 04:13 PM   #23
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I wouldn't mind having one of these as a toy.. like a big version of an e-scooter to cruise around town in.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:43 PM   #24
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Range is stated to be 125 miles, but it will charge to 80% in 30 minutes with a rapid charger. I'm still interested, hopefully it's not ridiculously overpriced. If they can make a base price of $25k, I think they'll have a winner here.
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:23 PM   #25
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I like it. Finally, a good looking RWD electric car. Needs 200+ mi. range for wider appeal though. And look at that un-Honda like tq. rating. I'd take this over a Model 3 or a NSX.
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