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Old 02-05-2019, 08:17 AM   #1
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Default 2020 Ford F-Series Super Duty debuts new monster 7.3-liter V8




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Ford is introducing an all-new V8 engine in its refreshed 2020 F-Series Super Duty pickups.




The displacement of the 7.3-liter will be familiar to Ford fans, but this one features a cam-in-block pushrod design that creates a more compact package than the last edition thatís still less complex than an overhead cam layout would be.


Ford expects it will be the most powerful gasoline engine in the class, but wonít be revealing its specifications until closer to the truckís on sale date this fall. The trucks will also be available with a carry-over 6.2-liter V8 and an updated, stronger version of the Super Duty's 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 diesel.


F-350 and F-450 (shown) dually trucks feature a signature grille design.


F-350 and F-450 (shown) dually trucks feature a signature grille design. (Ford)
The two big motors are paired with a 10-speed automatic transmission, while new bumper and grille designs help them breathe better. Dually models feature massive twin-nostril openings on the grille that give them a signature style helping them deliver the highest tow rating of any F-Series Super Duty to date.



Exactly how high is also yet to be revealed, but Ford isnít claiming class honors just yet. The upcoming Ram Heavy Duty currently wears the towing crown with a 35,100-pound rating, courtesy of its 6.7-liter straight-6 diesel engineís record-setting 1,000 lb-ft of torque.


The 2019 Ram Heavy Duty is the world's strongest pickupVideo
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wait.. did I read that right? a new OHV aluminum block gasoline engine from ford? I need dimensions..... wonder if it will fit between the shock towers...
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Unless this is significantly cheaper than the diesel equivalent, I don’t see a reason for it.
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Unless this is significantly cheaper than the diesel equivalent, I don’t see a reason for it.
It will be - OHV engines are cheaper to manufacture than OHC, and trucks equipped with gasoline engines are cheaper to manufacture than those with diesel, especially with the newer emission systems.

There us a 9k-10k price jump from gas to diesel in the super duty, granted that is sticker, but on an XL in work truck trim, that's a 25% increase just for the diesel, and even on the King Ranch job superintendent model it's a 17-18% price jump to go diesel.
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It will be cheaper, and I will buy one. My 250 XLT is 4 years old now, and a new XLT will be a perfect replacement.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:40 AM   #6
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I own a 1999 7.3, and the effortless towing of diesel torque is nice, but the ease of maintenance of a gas engine is nice, along with lower fuel prices. If it makes good power then it'll likely be more than enough for most to tow or work with.
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Old 02-05-2019, 03:21 PM   #8
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damn, iron block, also big block bore spacing; I wanted an aluminum small block form the blue oval; ah well; this will be a cheap engine to produce though.
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The 7.3 got my attention.
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If the 7.3 is capable and reliable you'll have a F250 or F350 that will sticker in the low 40's, but actually sell for low 30's, which is pretty reasonable given how nice the trucks are now. All the towing you'd want with none of the diesel hassle.
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I've been eye balling gasser engines in 3/4 ton trucks for a while now and looking to buy used. Ford introducing this has my attention to potentially buy new... hopefully pricing would be in the 30k-40k range.
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If the 7.3 is capable and reliable you'll have a F250 or F350 that will sticker in the low 40's, but actually sell for low 30's, which is pretty reasonable given how nice the trucks are now. All the towing you'd want with none of the diesel hassle.
Maybe a single cab rwd bare bones model will be low 30's. Add 4wd xlt, quad cab, 502a, tow package and it will probably sticker for Mid 50's but sell for mid 40's once incentives roll out.
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Maybe a single cab rwd bare bones model will be low 30's. Add 4wd xlt, quad cab, 502a, tow package and it will probably sticker for Mid 50's but sell for mid 40's once incentives roll out.
I live in the south so you don't need 4x4. I've had a 1999 RWD 7.3 since 2012 and have gotten stuck zero times in all my towing, including multiple trips to Ohio in winter.

I priced out the XLT F350 quad cab 6.5 foot bed with the 6.2 and the options I'd want for $45k or so. The 350 didn't have a tow package I saw besides the gooseneck option, and in reality it's fine as is for towing. I imagine I could get low to mid 30's from a dealer on one like that.

This isn't a luxury boat for me and I don't want all the doodads. I want something with cloth interior, bluetooth, cruise, AC, and enough power to tow a 9k enclosed with 3k of stuff in the bed and 3-4 people in the cab.
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I live in the south so you don't need 4x4. I've had a 1999 RWD 7.3 since 2012 and have gotten stuck zero times in all my towing, including multiple trips to Ohio in winter.

I priced out the XLT F350 quad cab 6.5 foot bed with the 6.2 and the options I'd want for $45k or so. The 350 didn't have a tow package I saw besides the gooseneck option, and in reality it's fine as is for towing. I imagine I could get low to mid 30's from a dealer on one like that.

This isn't a luxury boat for me and I don't want all the doodads. I want something with cloth interior, bluetooth, cruise, AC, and enough power to tow a 9k enclosed with 3k of stuff in the bed and 3-4 people in the cab.
So youíre basically agreeing with my statement...
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Throw an aluminum block version of the V8 with a different cam and capable valvetrain in the Raptor and Ford would be practically printing money. Interested to see how these engines will be modded in the future and where they could show up outside of the F-series trucks.
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wait.. did I read that right? a new OHV aluminum block gasoline engine from ford? I need dimensions..... wonder if it will fit between the shock towers...
Itís Iron Block, fits in New Mustang

ď Shortly after the premiere of the HD truck at the 2019 Chicago Auto Show, MotorAuthority had the chance to chat with Ford spokesman Mike Levine who told the company the new motor can fit in both the current generation Mustang and F-150. Thatís technically possible but does it makes sense at all? Not really.

Levine commented that the new V8 is a true truck engine with an iron block. While it uses a new cam-in-block, overhead valve architecture with forged steel crankshaft, it remains a powertrain thatís been designed especially with HD trucks in mind.ď
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It's funny that when automakers have to perform standardized fuel-economy testing, they started making more small, turbo motors. But when Ford tried to get better real-world fuel economy in its bigger trucks, it came up with a big honking V-8.

It makes perfect sense.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...details-specs/

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So youíre basically agreeing with my statement...
No, I'm saying there's a lot of options I could get and be way under your mid 50's price.
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Tow rig at work is a 2017 F350 crew cab long bed dually diesel w/ leather interior. IIRC we paid $55k for it. Gas engine and non dually should be well under $50k. Ride quality is worthy of a $5k truck.

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Maybe a single cab rwd bare bones model will be low 30's. Add 4wd xlt, quad cab, 502a, tow package and it will probably sticker for Mid 50's but sell for mid 40's once incentives roll out.
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No, I'm saying there's a lot of options I could get and be way under your mid 50's price.
Because you seemed to have missed it, I quoted my original statement.
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Because you seemed to have missed it, I quoted my original statement.
I read it. A 6.2 quad cab long bed rwd xlt with the comfort package stickers for mid 40's not mid 50's right now. So unless you think the 7.3 is going to be priced the same as the diesel option, you're wrong.
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So this thing should be good for a metric butt ton of boost right?


Maybe it will be the junkyard darling for 1000 whp in the next several years
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