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Old 08-13-2018, 06:29 PM   #12251
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:27 PM   #12252
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Ordered new shoes - Shimano ME-7. I tried on 47ís and they were just slightly too tight so I ordered 48ís.

Also ordered stuff to do wipers/oil on the fork. Coming up on two years and although itís not a ton of miles they are probably due.

Also on the full face - I have a super 2r and I have been trying to use it full face more often. I generally ride my climbs no helmet since they are like an hour long at 3-5mph on gravel mostly. I also ride solo a lot too and figure that if I were to crash at least I will have a less smashed face. I keep thinking it would be smart to get knee pads but havenít done that yet.

I am trying to figure out what my evil is worth. Following V1, i9 alloy wheelset, xx1, next sl crank, Thomson dropper, carbon bar, invisiframe, etc. Doing this for two reasons - one is Iím just not feeling quite 100% with the geo, mainly the front end and two is in starting to think about a bigger bike like 29er 140mm rear travel.
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Old 08-13-2018, 08:26 PM   #12253
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I want to do more endurance racing, but I don't want to buy an XC bike. (Because I wouldn't ride it much)

What's wrong with me?
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Old 08-13-2018, 09:28 PM   #12254
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I have 2 month old Transfer Dropper post and when the seat post collar gets just slightly too tight, it won't go all the way up by about 1/2"-1". When the collar is adjusted right, the post goes up all the way with a metal clunk sound. It was said his dropper only has about 12 or so rides on it so I'd be really surprised if it needed lube already but then again I've not ridden mine in mud to know. But his description matches exactly with mine when the collar is too tight.
That's what it was. I had it torqued just a bit too tight. I torqued it to 5nm and it was still a bit sticky. So 4.5 seems to work fine.
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Old 08-13-2018, 09:29 PM   #12255
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I was talking to the owner of a shop, and since Addias bought Five Ten, he can't get them because his volume is too low. Flip side is now Addias has a sticky bike shoe. I understand they are big in Europe.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:46 PM   #12256
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I want to do more endurance racing, but I don't want to buy an XC bike. (Because I wouldn't ride it much)

What's wrong with me?


After coming the other way I think other than a bunch of weird stares you are totally fine. I think if you are talking 50mi+ is where you will get a lot of benefit from the efficiency of the bike.

I feel like I would have had a good time on the scalpel on the McKenzie Saturday.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:16 AM   #12257
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I want to do more endurance racing, but I don't want to buy an XC bike. (Because I wouldn't ride it much)

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Nothing wrong with that line of thinking. Maybe buy a lighter set of wheels and some endurance-specific tires (lighter) and just ride what you have. If you find that endurance rides are a proper fit for you, then you can start shopping for a different bike.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:34 AM   #12258
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XC race bikes are for factory supported riders

I could probably count on two hands the number of times I've seen Joe Public on a race XC bike in all the 6-24hour races I've run in my life.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:04 PM   #12259
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I approve. What events are you considering?
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:51 PM   #12260
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After coming the other way I think other than a bunch of weird stares you are totally fine. I think if you are talking 50mi+ is where you will get a lot of benefit from the efficiency of the bike.

I feel like I would have had a good time on the scalpel on the McKenzie Saturday.
It's the 50ish milers that I'm looking at. My Stache is an insanely fun bike, but I probably give up 5-10 minutes over the course of an event due to the additional weight and rolling resistance from the 3.0 tires. Not a huge deal for an age grouper, since it's not going to keep me off a podium because at this point I wouldn't get there on anything without battery assist anyway.


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XC race bikes are for factory supported riders

I could probably count on two hands the number of times I've seen Joe Public on a race XC bike in all the 6-24hour races I've run in my life.
Oh, the XC guys I see are definitely on XC bikes.

I do work at a bike shop and get EP, does that count? Honestly, it is kinda funny to be asked "You raced that?" So the Stache has that going for it along with not being horrible for the task. I can also break things up by getting a little more wild on the descents and eat guys up here and there.


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I approve. What events are you considering?
I've been doing True Grit in St. George, UT for a couple years running, and I'd call this year's 21st out of 120something "respectable" and something to build on. Next year at 50, I'll be closer to the pointy end just because the field isn't as deep as the 40-49 guys.

Probably throw in the 6-hours of Frog Hollow (same area) and maybe the Carson Off-Road. Everyone goes on and on about the Whiskey 50, but everything I hear about it, that you have to sprint right off the bat...uphill, for a while, and if you don't you're boned, turns me off in a big way. I'm 5'10" and 180lbs, so I don't think I'll ever have the power to weight ratio to pull that off, my style is more diesel than top fuel. Which is a bummer, because Prescott is really nice.

I'm better at gravity events, but endurance races are just more fun. A few years ago, I'd have never expected to feel that way.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:17 PM   #12261
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It's the 50ish milers that I'm looking at. My Stache is an insanely fun bike, but I probably give up 5-10 minutes over the course of an event due to the additional weight and rolling resistance from the 3.0 tires. Not a huge deal for an age grouper, since it's not going to keep me off a podium because at this point I wouldn't get there on anything without battery assist anyway.




Oh, the XC guys I see are definitely on XC bikes.

I do work at a bike shop and get EP, does that count? Honestly, it is kinda funny to be asked "You raced that?" So the Stache has that going for it along with not being horrible for the task. I can also break things up by getting a little more wild on the descents and eat guys up here and there.




I've been doing True Grit in St. George, UT for a couple years running, and I'd call this year's 21st out of 120something "respectable" and something to build on. Next year at 50, I'll be closer to the pointy end just because the field isn't as deep as the 40-49 guys.

Probably throw in the 6-hours of Frog Hollow (same area) and maybe the Carson Off-Road. Everyone goes on and on about the Whiskey 50, but everything I hear about it, that you have to sprint right off the bat...uphill, for a while, and if you don't you're boned, turns me off in a big way. I'm 5'10" and 180lbs, so I don't think I'll ever have the power to weight ratio to pull that off, my style is more diesel than top fuel. Which is a bummer, because Prescott is really nice.

I'm better at gravity events, but endurance races are just more fun. A few years ago, I'd have never expected to feel that way.


For a couple of years I race almost exclusively on my steel SS
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:26 PM   #12262
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For a couple of years I race almost exclusively on my steel SS
Along with most of the SS field...

They just don't work with the kind of riding I like to do, and I have a road bike with a power meter if I want my bike to show me how unworthy I am.
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Old 08-15-2018, 01:43 AM   #12263
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I would like to get back into those 30-50mi races. They were fun. Iím just not finding time to train enough to really commit. This year is just fun, we will see how next year goes.

Itís kind of why I keep my scalpel. I think Iím the future I will use it and to sell it and replace it Iíll be giving up money for a only marginally better bike for endurance xc - I donít think the new geo changes really matter much for those events.

Iíd also like to try an enduro for fun. Iím good downhill (not crazy fast but solid) and would like to see how I stack up.
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:07 AM   #12264
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I can't find the article, but when I was reading about my Pony Rustler,there was a claim it takes about 5 watts to push he 27.5+ over 27.5, not sure if 2.2

I guess I'll find one in 6 weeks how bad it is. This smoke here sucks so much! I will be starting in on bikes at the gym this week. I've ridden the thing twice for a total of 4 hours in 2 weeks.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:28 AM   #12265
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I'm considering taking up riding trails and I need some advice. My last bike was a Specialized Hard Rock Comp hardtail. I didn't really ride it on the trials, mainly on road or easy paths.

I have 2 friends that ride a decent amount on FS setups. I live in Charlotte and the trails they ride have a good amount of uphill/downhill. I have never really rode on trails, mostly BMX track or street.

I'm not sure if I should get a bike suited for how I like to ride or how I will be riding, if that makes any sense. I think a hardtail would be playful like a BMX but I would die on the trails. I have also never rode a FS so I don't know how it feels.

The price tags are also Texa$, so I would probably look for something used although their are options new in my price range. I would also like to stay under $2500.

Here is what I have looked at so far online.

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Diamondback Mission 2 or Pro (used)
YT Jeffsey 29 (new)
Diamondback Release 2,3 or carbon (used)

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Specialized Fuse Comp Fatty

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Old 08-15-2018, 11:57 AM   #12266
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I'm in Charlotte too. Hard tails are fine for most trails but there are some that will shake the fillings out of your teeth. Sherman, Fisher Farm, sections of USNWC are root city

The Fuse would be a great option, thanks to the 3in tires that will eat some of the bumps, and would get you in about $300 less than the entry level Stumpy that will have lesser components. I'm seriously considering one to strip and build as a SS.

Hit me up if you ever wanted to stop by Spirited Cyclist Huntersville and see any of the Specialized stuff in person.
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They mostly ride USNWC.
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:22 PM   #12268
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They mostly ride USNWC.
The newer stuff (tributary and academy) tend to be rootier than North/South main which are rooty in spots.
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I'm considering taking up riding trails and I need some advice. My last bike was a Specialized Hard Rock Comp hardtail. I didn't really ride it on the trials, mainly on road or easy paths.

I have 2 friends that ride a decent amount on FS setups. I live in Charlotte and the trails they ride have a good amount of uphill/downhill. I have never really rode on trails, mostly BMX track or street.

I'm not sure if I should get a bike suited for how I like to ride or how I will be riding, if that makes any sense. I think a hardtail would be playful like a BMX but I would die on the trails. I have also never rode a FS so I don't know how it feels.

The price tags are also Texa$, so I would probably look for something used although their are options new in my price range. I would also like to stay under $2500.

Here is what I have looked at so far online.

FS

Diamondback Mission 2 or Pro (used)
YT Jeffsey 29 (new)
Diamondback Release 2,3 or carbon (used)

HT

Specialized Fuse Comp Fatty
Iíd look to see if you can find last years NOS on a Specialized Stumpjumper. Should be able to get it for below your budget.

The YT is great but arenít those things backordered like 6 mos out?
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Old 08-15-2018, 01:17 PM   #12270
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I would like to get back into those 30-50mi races. They were fun. I’m just not finding time to train enough to really commit. This year is just fun, we will see how next year goes.

It’s kind of why I keep my scalpel. I think I’m the future I will use it and to sell it and replace it I’ll be giving up money for a only marginally better bike for endurance xc - I don’t think the new geo changes really matter much for those events.

I’d also like to try an enduro for fun. I’m good downhill (not crazy fast but solid) and would like to see how I stack up.
It seems like the most important part of endurance racing is knowing how to approach the race. If you know you need to, and actually do, pace yourself and eat and drink enough, you'll get there eventually. I stepped up my eating game at my last enduro (1,600cal/7hr) and felt awesome at the end, so I'm just going to eat like a pig in the future.

Enduro racing can be fun, depending on the course. The one I like is pretty flowy and non-threatening. If someone rides smart...pacing, eating, drinking, not trying to win on every corner...they can beat a lot of people that don't. But aside from the actual racing, they're usually pretty relaxed and fun.

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That sounds about right for similar tread patterns. The problem with plus bike riders is that they think they need an aggressive plus tire, so they end up with super slow rolling tires instead of a just-as-grippy (as an aggressive non-plus tire), faster rolling tire.

But yeah, between the extra weight and the tires, it makes a difference after a few hours.
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I'm considering taking up riding trails and I need some advice. My last bike was a Specialized Hard Rock Comp hardtail. I didn't really ride it on the trials, mainly on road or easy paths.

I have 2 friends that ride a decent amount on FS setups. I live in Charlotte and the trails they ride have a good amount of uphill/downhill. I have never really rode on trails, mostly BMX track or street.

I'm not sure if I should get a bike suited for how I like to ride or how I will be riding, if that makes any sense. I think a hardtail would be playful like a BMX but I would die on the trails. I have also never rode a FS so I don't know how it feels.

The price tags are also Texa$, so I would probably look for something used although their are options new in my price range. I would also like to stay under $2500.

Here is what I have looked at so far online.

FS

Diamondback Mission 2 or Pro (used)
YT Jeffsey 29 (new)
Diamondback Release 2,3 or carbon (used)

HT

Specialized Fuse Comp Fatty
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/mtb/spe...pectral-al-6-0
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Those are sweet too. You’re just going to run into the same problem as the YT.

Edit: Looks like the YT is only 2 months out but who knows if that is accurate.
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If you're willing to go non-retail brand like YT, then Canyon (mentioned above), Commencal, Cube, Vitus, and Nukeproof are also reasonable options. There are some others out there, but those are what come to mind from my research and eventual purchase last year. Canyon seems to offer the best components for the money. I wanted the Spectral, but they weren't sold in the USA until late last year. I bought a Nukeproof as it seemed to offer the next best level of components for the money and I could get it shipped here (via Chain Reaction Cycles). I'm a bit jealous of the 2018 specs as it went boost, received upgraded fork and shock, and got better tires for the same price.




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But yeah, between the extra weight and the tires, it makes a difference after a few hours.
My new bike is 3 lbs heaver as well as Plus tires. It's a bit harder to toss back and forth.
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